are LBP and MGS4 the only games we can say that will NOT FLOP certified?

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#1 Eggheadz
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in short.....mgs4 and LBP are certified AAA titles as each is EXTREMELY innovative in gameplay, n looks to have everything else needed to be AAA gfx, characters, sound, value ect ect...

LBP is just new n fresh from top to bottom, n nothin compares to it atm, and it keeps the game FUN,

mgs4 - ive never seen a game with soooo much gameplay on top of everything else thats great about Mgs4.

Both games are imo the only safe AAA potentials here on GS.

Discuss....

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#2 Lilac_Benjie
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Both will score 8.5 or less. Every other review site will be high in contrast.
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#3 musicalmac  Moderator
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Nope. Hide the women and children. No title is safe.
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#4 SolidSnake35
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I don't think any game is guaranteed to score well here.
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#5 Dunadan04
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Honestly, i don't think any game will be guaranteed not to flop, especially when we're so far away from some of their releases. I do think these two games will be amazing, but anything can happen :P.
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#6 SolidSnake35
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Both will score 8.5 or less.Lilac_Benjie
You can't be certain of that...
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How haven't people learned from Twilight Princess and Prime 3? :?
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Nope. Hide the women and children. No title is safe.musicalmac

That's about right.

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Cow will hype MGS4 AAA becuse they never learn and GS will probably give it less than 9.0 And it will be a big rob just like MGS3
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#10 Lilac_Benjie
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Both will score 8.5 or less.SolidSnake35
You can't be certain of that...

It's more probable for them to score in the 1-8 bracket than it is of them scoring in the 9-10 bracket.

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i loved MGS 3....only one i played and I honestly think it desered AAA on gaespot....but it didn't get it...hopefully MGS4 will be fresh enough to gain AAA status...but I highly doubt it since gamespot are extremely strict lately.....and tbh I honestly see no sane reason to hype LBP...innovative....honestly, comeon its a game editor...thats it...Its the kind of game oyu love for 30 mins then never play again...
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#12 Blackbond
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  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7

Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
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#13 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Both will score 8.5 or less.Lilac_Benjie

You can't be certain of that...

It's more probable for them to score in the 1-8 bracket than it is of them scoring in the 9-10 bracket.

True, but the way you said it is misleading.
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How do you quantify gameplay?

Also, I will not buy MGS4, because of all the nut grabbing.

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i loved MGS 3....only one i played and I honestly think it desered AAA on gaespot....but it didn't get it...hopefully MGS4 will be fresh enough to gain AAA status...but I highly doubt it since gamespot are extremely strict lately.....and tbh I honestly see no sane reason to hype LBP...innovative....honestly, comeon its a game editor...thats it...Its the kind of game oyu love for 30 mins then never play again...Hani_Essa

but the game editor is like none before its time.......it has realife physics on a huge variety of things, user friendly n internet access which implemented well = unparralleled

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MGS3 scored a 8.6 right?i expect MGS4 to do the samew and they are gointo take off points cuz of no online

They already floped the greatest game of 2007 which is bioshock and i expect 2 or 3 gettin 9.0 but notting gettin 9.5 unless is good and has online but other than that nope so i expect LBP and MGS4 gettin 8.5 or lower

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MGS3 scored a 8.6 right?i expect MGS4 to do the samew and they are gointo take off points cuz of no online

They already floped the greatest game of 2007 which is bioshock and i expect 2 or 3 gettin 9.0 but notting gettin 9.5 unless is good and has online but other than that nope so i expect LBP and MGS4 gettin 8.5 or lower

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Bioshock did not, I repeat, did NOT flop. AAA = AAA.
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I don't think any game is guaranteed to score well here.SolidSnake35
QFT

gamespot either underrates or overrates games in reviews. MOST games i mean

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  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7


Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
Blackbond

Not if it goes by that equation/comparison for a trend.....

MGS1 = 8.5

MGS2 = 9.6

MGS3 = 8.7

MGS4 = 9.8

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#20 ussjme
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mgs3 didnt get a 9 here? wtf? wow.
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#22 Meu2k7
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Metal Gear Solid doesnt always score AAA so why do you say that?
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#23 Ibacai
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No game is guaranteed to not flop. From what we've seen we should expect it even more.
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#24 Ravens1995
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[QUOTE="Ravens1995"]

MGS3 scored a 8.6 right?i expect MGS4 to do the samew and they are gointo take off points cuz of no online

They already floped the greatest game of 2007 which is bioshock and i expect 2 or 3 gettin 9.0 but notting gettin 9.5 unless is good and has online but other than that nope so i expect LBP and MGS4 gettin 8.5 or lower

musicalmac

Bioshock did not, I repeat, did NOT flop. AAA = AAA.

i understand that but most people was going for 9.5 but it got 9.0

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#25 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]
  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7


Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
Eggheadz

Not if it goes by that equation/comparison for a trend.....

MGS1 = 8.5

MGS2 = 9.6

MGS3 = 8.7

MGS4 = 9.8

So you're telling me that the game is going to get a 10 seeing as how it has the new grading scale? I'd call it a fluke if anything else.

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#26 Eggheadz
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[QUOTE="Ravens1995"]

MGS3 scored a 8.6 right?i expect MGS4 to do the samew and they are gointo take off points cuz of no online

They already floped the greatest game of 2007 which is bioshock and i expect 2 or 3 gettin 9.0 but notting gettin 9.5 unless is good and has online but other than that nope so i expect LBP and MGS4 gettin 8.5 or lower

musicalmac

Bioshock did not, I repeat, did NOT flop. AAA = AAA.

bioshock was just lucky to get that 9 from gs imo.

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[QUOTE="Eggheadz"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]
  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7


Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
Blackbond

Not if it goes by that equation/comparison for a trend.....

MGS1 = 8.5

MGS2 = 9.6

MGS3 = 8.7

MGS4 = 9.8

So you're telling me that the game is going to get a 10 seeing as how it has the new grading scale? I'd call it a fluke if anything else.

as long as the game length is not short, n everything else thats its promising comes thru well in the retail.... hey its the only chance we will probably see a game get 10 on gs

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]
  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7


Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
Eggheadz

Not if it goes by that equation/comparison for a trend.....

MGS1 = 8.5

MGS2 = 9.6

MGS3 = 8.7

MGS4 = 9.8

So you're telling me that the game is going to get a 10 seeing as how it has the new grading scale? I'd call it a fluke if anything else.

as long as the game length is not short, n everything else thats its promising comes thru well in the retail.... hey its the only chance we will probably see a game get 10 on gs


Even though I hate saying it, LBP will get a 10 here. 
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MGS4 I think will get a 8.5 or a 9. Little Big Planet is anyone's guess.
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#30 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]
  • MGS1 = 8.5
  • MGS2 = 9.6
  • MGS3= 8.7


Notice how the main numbered Metal Gear Solid series have more AA titles then AAA. If anything this game is prone to flop.
Eggheadz

Not if it goes by that equation/comparison for a trend.....

MGS1 = 8.5

MGS2 = 9.6

MGS3 = 8.7

MGS4 = 9.8

So you're telling me that the game is going to get a 10 seeing as how it has the new grading scale? I'd call it a fluke if anything else.

as long as the game length is not short, n everything else thats its promising comes thru well in the retail.... hey its the only chance we will probably see a game get 10 on gs

:lol::lol::lol:

There is no way in hell MGS4 is going to get a 10. A series that has 1 AAA title and zero GOTY Awards isn't just going to reinvent itself into something so amazing its going to be a 10. The MGS gameplay formula is already pretty much down pact. They aren't going to change it drastically. Halo 3 has a better chance at a 10 then MGS4.

MGS was out classed by so many better games last gen and to think that its going to pull a 10 is a joke. Have you seen the way GS is reviewing games lately?

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My score prediction is: MGS4: 9.0 LBP: 9.5 Here's a couple other random ones: Halo 3: 9.5 Mass Effect: 9.0 KZ2: 9.0 GT5: 9.0 COD 4: 9.0
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#32 Eggheadz
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:lol::lol::lol:

There is no way in hell MGS4 is going to get a 10. A series that has 1 AAA title and zero GOTY Awards isn't just going to reinvent itself into something so amazing its going to be a 10. The MGS gameplay formula is already pretty much down pact. They aren't going to change it drastically. Halo 3 has a better chance at a 10 then MGS4.

MGS was out classed by so many better games last gen and to think that its going to pull a 10 is a joke. Have you seen the way GS is reviewing games lately?

Blackbond

so u want a bet on Halo 3 GS score vs MGS4 GS score?? n which gets highest??

cos i would without any hesitation

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

:lol::lol::lol:

There is no way in hell MGS4 is going to get a 10. A series that has 1 AAA title and zero GOTY Awards isn't just going to reinvent itself into something so amazing its going to be a 10. The MGS gameplay formula is already pretty much down pact. They aren't going to change it drastically. Halo 3 has a better chance at a 10 then MGS4.

MGS was out classed by so many better games last gen and to think that its going to pull a 10 is a joke. Have you seen the way GS is reviewing games lately?

Eggheadz

so u want a bet on Halo 3 GS score vs MGS4 GS score?? n which gets highest??

cos i would without any hesitation

Does your life depend on Metal gear getting a high score or something?

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

:lol::lol::lol:

There is no way in hell MGS4 is going to get a 10. A series that has 1 AAA title and zero GOTY Awards isn't just going to reinvent itself into something so amazing its going to be a 10. The MGS gameplay formula is already pretty much down pact. They aren't going to change it drastically. Halo 3 has a better chance at a 10 then MGS4.

MGS was out classed by so many better games last gen and to think that its going to pull a 10 is a joke. Have you seen the way GS is reviewing games lately?

Eggheadz

so u want a bet on Halo 3 GS score vs MGS4 GS score?? n which gets highest??

cos i would without any hesitation

Okay we can make a friendly bet. I'll sig it that you owned me for a good while if MGS4 outscores Halo 3.

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#35 daveg1
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LBP will be tiresome after a while building your own stages to just run around in i think..

mgs4 will be great though.

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#36 Funkyhamster
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Okay, LBP is going to get a 9.0 - GS is about as gushy over it as it was over Bioshock (i.e. extremely gushy)... but while I don't doubt that MGS4 will be awesome, it might not get a 9.0...
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LoLoLol

Nope. Hide the women and children. No title is safe.musicalmac

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I'm still reserved with MGS4. The AI was dumb, there was far too much crotch grabbing, and Snake is like 70 years old.
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in short.....mgs4 and LBP are certified AAA titles as each is EXTREMELY innovative in gameplay, n looks to have everything else needed to be AAA gfx, characters, sound, value ect ect...

LBP is just new n fresh from top to bottom, n nothin compares to it atm, and it keeps the game FUN,

mgs4 - ive never seen a game with soooo much gameplay on top of everything else thats great about Mgs4.

Both games are imo the only safe AAA potentials here on GS.

Discuss....

Eggheadz

Haven't most, if not all MGS games got AA?

LBP might flop too, there's no certainty in anything, especially with the newer, harsh review system.

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I'm still reserved with MGS4. The AI was dumb, there was far too much crotch grabbing, and Snake is like 70 years old.Vandalvideo
i a.i. would have tuned down for the demo...

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#41 kman3002
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LBP-Will probably get AAA but I gurantee the review will knock it down to a 8.5 because it isn't on Xbox or you can't dress the little sack dudes up like Masterchief.

I also gurantee MGSIV will be 8.5ed because of some stupid flaw that most review sites will love and say it's an excellent bonus to the game but GS won't like because it requires them to think,or requires them to think to much or some crazy **** like that.:roll:

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Nope. Hide the women and children. No title is safe.kingpoopa84

That's about right.

I think LBP is reasonably safe, provided the gameplay doesn't get old. MGS4 however? Not a chance.

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#43 Eggheadz
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Okay we can make a friendly bet. I'll sig it that you owned me for a good while if MGS4 outscores Halo 3.

Blackbond

ur on, n ill sig myself with 'blackbond is a babe" LOL

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#44 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Okay we can make a friendly bet. I'll sig it that you owned me for a good while if MGS4 outscores Halo 3.

Eggheadz

ur on, n ill sig myself with 'blackbond is a babe" LOL

Babe?

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:P

oh im female btw

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#46 darkodonnie
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the 1st and 3rd Metal Gear Solid games did not get AAA, so MGS4 is certainly not a definite AAA

LBP is likely to get AAA, but then again no game is flop-proof with the new ratings system

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#47 AgentA-Mi6
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Folklore is another game that has very low chances of flopping