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#1 darthogre
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I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

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#2 SecretPolice
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First things first - which JRPG's for PS3 due by the end of 2007 are you hyping AAA ;)

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I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

darthogre

I'm a Wii360 owner, and I will have to admit that Blue Dragon and Sonata don't look too terribly appealing.  They may end up being pretty good, but they should not be listed in the same sentence as ME, Bioshoch, Halo 3 and Lost Oddessy.  
I have to disagree with you on Folklore, though.  Even though I don't own a PS3, that game looks pretty sweet.  Eye of Judgement looks kinda dumb though.
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#4 Willy105
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Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

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I think Blue Dragon & Eternal Sonata stand a good chance of scoring AAA..... so what? you gonna call the opinion police??? Cows hype lists include much worse games than Blue Dragon & Eternal Sonata..... many times, games that no one has even heard of or know anything about.

It's funny how cows rave about FFXIII, when they know nothing about it, just because it's running on hype from the FF series.... umm... do you know who created Blue Dragon??? Umm..... yeah, thats right, the same guy that started Final Fantasy, you know back when FF's were great games....

Oh WHAT NOW!?!?!?!?

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#6 musicalmac  Moderator
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I'm hyped for Blue Dragon because I loved the demo. I like the depth and mechanics in the fighting.
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#7 Zandeus
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Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Willy105

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

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#8 darthogre
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First things first - which JRPG's for PS3 due by the end of 2007 are you hyping AAA ;)

SecretPolice

none, they dont' have anything except Folklore which looks worthless. I'm not going to hype something that looks second rate.

People putting those two games int he same sentence as Mass Effect really need their eyes checked.

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I'm hyping Eternal Sonata, and I don't even have a 360 and probably wont get one. The game looks awesome.
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#10 immortality20
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Lost Odyssey looks a little more appealing to me, but if these games do get high AA or AAA (unlikely) I'll buy them. My guess is high A or low AA.
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#11 Idonomeus
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Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata (Trusty Bell) are hyped because they were well received by reviewers in Japan.
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add two world to that list....the Euro version has been getting horible reviews....I dont know why some countinue to hype it.
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#13 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Zandeus

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

Ok.

Respect to you!

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I think Blue Dragon & Eternal Sonata stand a good chance of scoring AAA..... so what? you gonna call the opinion police??? Cows hype lists include much worse games than Blue Dragon & Eternal Sonata..... many times, games that no one has even heard of or know anything about.

It's funny how cows rave about FFXIII, when they know nothing about it, just because it's running on hype from the FF series.... umm... do you know who created Blue Dragon??? Umm..... yeah, thats right, the same guy that started Final Fantasy, you know back when FF's were great games....

Oh WHAT NOW!?!?!?!?

Zandeus

Basically you are saying AAA titles. That's all I wanted to know. You think it's as good as the titles I mentioned before it (basically you think it's on par with Mass Effect).

It'll be intresting to see if this is the popular opinion because frankly I've seen way too many posts stating how they are going to be the reason why 360 sells over PS3.

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I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

darthogre

Very rarely do I hype a game but I am willing to bet that Blue Dragon will be at least AA and I've played eternal sonata and I will be buying it... What ever they score it will be higher than the JRPG's on PS3 this holiday season...

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#16 darthogre
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add two world to that list....the Euro version has been getting horible reviews....I dont know why some countinue to hype it.cobrax25

that isn't an exclusive technically, a PS3 version was supposed to be released this year and got delayed (imagine that) but at least we know PS3 will get it.

My problem with the two I mentioned is just because it's exclusive people are hyping them. When you put them in the same catagory of Mass Effect, that's where I think they are crazy.

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Lair? Drake? Warhawk? need I go on? talk about overhype.

I can see why Heavenly sword gets some hype but the other three?

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#18 darthogre
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

colmusterd28

Very rarely do I hype a game but I am willing to bet that Blue Dragon will be at least AA and I've played eternal sonata and I will be buying it... What ever they score it will be higher than the JRPG's on PS3 this holiday season...

I respect that because I agree they will appeal to some people. My problem is saying it's a reason to purchase the X360 over PS3. It's putting it in the same area as Mass Effect. That is just insane if you ask me as a gamer.

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because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

Zandeus

That's a complete lie if i ever read one. Come on, dude. Don't act like Cows are the only ones to look at screen shots or trailers to claim ownage. Lemmings and sheep do it on a daily basis, just the same.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

First things first - which JRPG's for PS3 due by the end of 2007 are you hyping AAA ;)

darthogre

none, they dont' have anything except Folklore which looks worthless. I'm not going to hype something that looks second rate.

People putting those two games int he same sentence as Mass Effect really need their eyes checked.

Why attack the 360 JRPG's than ? I mean it's unbelievable that the 360 is getting these two ( who woulda thunk it two years ago - really - the 360 with JRPG and the other console, not so much ) and yet somehow that b/c 360 fans are hyped to get them, you go on the attack.

Blue Dragon has been reviewed elsewhere and scored very high - not sure if GS will give the AAA but AA at least IMHO.

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I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

darthogre

I don't feel that I neccessarily think a game will be AAA in order to be hyped for it and to hype it as a game I want and believe will get good reviews. I don't always agree with GS reviews, some games I believe are better, some worse and whatever the score, it has no effect on my enjoyment of a game.

All those games you mentioned look worthy and are definately going to expand my collection.

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#22 jg4xchamp
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Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Willy105
because its 08.
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#23 ithilgore2006
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Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Willy105
Maybe unlike many cows they want to see some real trailers of it rather then just a CGI trailer before they start hyping it AAA.
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

darthogre

Very rarely do I hype a game but I am willing to bet that Blue Dragon will be at least AA and I've played eternal sonata and I will be buying it... What ever they score it will be higher than the JRPG's on PS3 this holiday season...

I respect that because I agree they will appeal to some people. My problem is saying it's a reason to purchase the X360 over PS3. It's putting it in the same area as Mass Effect. That is just insane if you ask me as a gamer.

Well, let's face the facts... Whatever I'm getting will be better than whatever your getting... Isn't that how people act? Exclusives no matter how unpromising will always get a little more hype than multiplats... Look at Killzone, the first one was one of the all time biggest flops in gaming... ie. overhyped to the extreme... It hasn't stopped people from overhyping the second one, do the graphics look good? sure, but are we overhyping? just a bit, I'd say... either way, people uses Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata as genre boosters... Its saying, "we have quality JRPG's!" and that can help convince someone to buy an XBOX 360...

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I have to somewhat disagree, Blue Dragon seems like a really good game and yes generally people are hyping it due to it being an exclusive. But I personally like what I have seen. However, according to the new rating system it will get a 7.5-8.5.
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I have to somewhat disagree, Blue Dragon seems like a really good game and yes generally people are hyping it due to it being an exclusive. But I personally like what I have seen.zsc4
I don't think that's the only reason. It did score well in Japan. Why wouldn't people be hyping a game that has already done well in Japan?
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Ever heard of tri-Ace? Hironobu Sakaguchi?... Yet you're comparing it to Folklore and Eye of judgement? Don't get me wrong they look like very interesting games, but Folklore is being made by the makers of Genji and Eye of judgement...? I really don't know...
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[QUOTE="Zandeus"]

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

dubvisions

That's a complete lie if i ever read one. Come on, dude. Don't act like Cows are the only ones to look at screen shots or trailers to claim ownage. Lemmings and sheep do it on a daily basis, just the same.

cows were hyping killzone 2 AAA based on nothing :P
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Ever heard of tri-Ace? Hironobu Sakaguchi?... Yet you're comparing it to Folklore and Eye of judgement? Don't get me wrong they look like very interesting games, but Folklore is being made by the makers of Genji and Eye of judgement...? I really don't know...
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I think Eye of Judgement could be cool. I've heard nothing good about Folklore, however...
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Sorry but you lost me at the Lems and Cows part.... What are Lems and what are Cows ??

Not me. A NooBmust have typed that....:oops:

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Sorry but you lost me at the Lems and Cows part.... What are Lems and what are Cows ??

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Lems = Xbox fanboys Cows = Sony fanboys
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Lair? Drake? Warhawk? need I go on? talk about overhype.

I can see why Heavenly sword gets some hype but the other three?

colmusterd28

Oh come on!  Drake looks AWESOME.  Everyone who has played demo's and written previews has had nothing but good things to say.  And Naughty Dog has a great pedigree.  I have a 360, but I will definitely spend some time at my PS3 owning buddy's house to play that one.  Lair and Warhawk look good, but I can see some apprehension on those.
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Zandeus

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

So true.

Cows hype every possible sequel from the PS2. And the PS2 had a lot of good IPs.

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Something needs to sell in Japan)
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[QUOTE="dubvisions"]

[QUOTE="Zandeus"]

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

pro-nathan-07

That's a complete lie if i ever read one. Come on, dude. Don't act like Cows are the only ones to look at screen shots or trailers to claim ownage. Lemmings and sheep do it on a daily basis, just the same.

cows were hyping killzone 2 AAA based on nothing :P


That is true, but I hear fanboys from all three hyping games based on one or two screenshots or one or two movies.  It's just human nature, and that is why people will always do that no matter what system they champion.  
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[QUOTE="dubvisions"]

[QUOTE="Zandeus"]

because there is nothing to hype.... maybe??? We arent cows, we dont hype something just because we know it will come, we wait til we have something real, something to look at, b4 we start hyping anything.

pro-nathan-07

That's a complete lie if i ever read one. Come on, dude. Don't act like Cows are the only ones to look at screen shots or trailers to claim ownage. Lemmings and sheep do it on a daily basis, just the same.

cows were hyping killzone 2 AAA based on nothing :P

If cows were claiming AAA before gameplay footage was released, yes, they are retarded.

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I see people list great games for the X360 which I agree with. Titles such as Bioshock, Halo3, Mass Effect, PGR4, possibly AceCombat 6 and Lost Oddessy. However......

Why do Lems hype BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata with the titles mentioned above? Because they are exclusive MS titles? That's like Cows listing Folklore and Eye of Judgement as great games (which they are not even close to Lair, H.Sword, Drakes Fortune, R&C).

So I need to know this once and for all, are you Lems offically hyping BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata as AAA? I need to hear it because I've seen too many listing it as a reason to buy an X360 over the PS3 this holiday season. You don't buy a console for mediocre games so I'm assuming you think they are AAA.

If you think BlueDragon and Eternal Sonata are AAA please put your money where your mouth is and post it.

darthogre

They are selling points to the console, but I don't think they'll be AAA. I think they'll both be AA. I think lemmings put them in the same list as those first titles you mentioned because they ARE important games to the system, even if they won't be AAA. Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon are games that are supposed to break the taboo that the 360 is a "shooter" console, so these games are important and show the diversity and quality of the upcoming lineup moreso than tout the greatness of the actual game.

And there's nothing wrong with either game or both games getting AA, not while there's other games with AAA potential and hype. But when cows start hyping games like Lair AA, when all you used to hear is that Lair would be a must have game and own anything on the 360, it shows the lack of confidence and lack of quality in the PS3 fall lineup.

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Here is a mystery:

Why aren't they hyping Banjo-Threeie?

Willy105

same reason they're not hyping gears2 or alan wake... no release date

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Yeah, Im hyping these games. Could care less about the GS scores, Im buying both on day one. As for what GS will score them, I predict between 8.0-9.0.
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I think Eye of Judgement could be cool. I've heard nothing good about Folklore, however...musicalmac

Yeah it does look interesting, they could really use that tech to evolve board games or card games in the future among other things.

Folklore falls into the HS situation, its developers are not known to have created masterpieces and yet Folklore looks very interesting to me. The whole lighthearted fantasy spirit in the game attracts me, instead of the used to death guys with swords bigger than self, that make themselves look too seriously... the gameplay of the game looks interesting as well, we'll just have to wait and see.

But to deny that games like Blue Dragon, Lost odyssey and Sonata have potential is pushing it a little.

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I think there's a possibility for Eternal Sonata to get AAA.