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LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.Broman6015
thats a good point. Didnt think of that.
LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.Broman6015
This and maybe because of the fact its not being advertised properly, I'm in the UK and I've seen no form of advertisement at all for LBP.
LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.Broman6015fable 2 was released on the 24th, but, i myself am suprised lbp is not selling as well as fable 2, i'm playing fable 2 and its good but nothing spectacular
Because your average joe does not care about creating levels.
Why people thought this would appeal to casuals, all cause it's got some stupid potato sack man on it i don't know. There casual, not completely stupid.
Where as flip the coin you have Fable 2, EXTREMELY easy to get to grips on, VERY simple, hell even the magic doesn't have Mana, you can just spam it. It's designed for the casual RPG player and it sucks in the "hardcore" as well, it was always going to happen it's just to many people in here fool themselves into thinking SW = Real life.
The game just doesn't appeal to that many people. For all the talk about it being the new casual game, I know I don't waat to play any 2d side scroller that doesn't have a plumber in it any more, and only that is for nostalgic reasons. There are much more fun gametypes and experiences to have instead of playing through a 2d God of War level as Sackboy Kratos.
EDIT: especially when your Sackboy CANNOT attack at all. What a lame design desicion.
Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.TBoogy
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
Planescape Torment
Grim Fandango etc.
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Games that are awesome and considered one of best games ever made - yet they dont sell well
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I just installed Grim Fandango yesterday :D
[QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.Fawlcon_Pawnch
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesIt truly saddens me. We need LBP to do well. It's nice to get new & fresh IP's so well created, so if this bombs, it'll hurt the industry a little bit, imho. Although, I'm glad Fable 2's doing well. I just wish LBP could pick up in sales.BioShockOwnzSHould blames all those casual owners that have a wii and also blame Sony for losing that casual market. Also messing up the launch was a big thing too.
[QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.Fawlcon_Pawnch
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
Nintendo fans are a different breed.[QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.Fawlcon_Pawnch
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
HUGE difference.1- Mario is a icon in games. Sackboy is not.It will be harder to sell a unknown that looks like a cute kiddy stuffed animal then Mario where everyone knows about.
2-Wii is more the family console where those games work better. PS3 will have a more hardcore gamer crowd overall. Much harder to sell a unknown cute sackboy on a PS3 i think.
I agree when Nintendo's Reggie said LBP would have done better on the Wii. Since the crowd would fit better.
[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.too_much_eslim
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesHe said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
I can honestly say Im very surprised, but in reading what all of you well informed gamers have said, I have to agree. Its a great game, and I love Fable 2 as well, but just am really surprised.
[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.TBoogy
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
Nintendo fans are a different breed.Its wasnt just Nintendo fans buying Mario Galaxy
The game's only been out for 3 days. And my local EB was sold out when I picked mine up (I had a preorder) There is a slight possibility that people are jumping the gun here when saying it's a sales flop when it really hasn't had time to sell (Again, 3 days) Xmas hasn't even arrived yet either. Still, doesn't mean it's going to eventually sell. dr-venkman
I think it will sell, but I do think its going to be less than expected. Shame really.
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.Fawlcon_Pawnch
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesHe said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.too_much_eslim
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesHe said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.Who said it was popular? I used Galaxy as an example that people do want platformers but the genre has been, in general, so uninspiring over the last years that most devs dont have ambition when making them.
If good platformers start rolling out with proper budget, ambition and advertisement (like Galaxy) people will buy.
With that said, i think LBP wasnt advertised properly, its a new IP and it needed a much more agressive marketing strategy behind it, with Sackboy toys and all.
I think this is the type of game that won't explode in sales at the start, merely because an advertising campaign will have a hard time selling the game, apart from showing Sackboy doing cute things.
Word of mouth will spread the sales of this game. I don't expect this game to have any record breaking weeks but it should sell pretty well over a longer period of time as more people try it and get addicted to it. (because it is a wonderful game)
[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the "creating" part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.too_much_eslim
6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesHe said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.From reading the above posts, I'm quite sure you're the one not understanding here.The games a physics engine wrapped around a level editor. Nothing amazing to me, but I'll wait till I play it before passing my judgement.
P.S. I don't think "casuals" like to sit for hours creating complex levels.
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiesdr-venkman
He said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.From reading the above posts, I'm quite sure you're the one not understanding here. Dude its mario. everyone knows about mario. Mario on the box sells games. Mario selling isn't surprising. what the guy said was right. it doesn't matter how good the platformer is it isn't going to sell. Obviously unless mario is on the box.[QUOTE="Broman6015"]LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.AvIdGaMeR444
Damage control. Do you really think Halo 3 wouldn't have sold as well if the launch was messed up and postponed 1 week? People would be mad about it, sure. But it certainly wouldn't make people skip out on the game as a result.
And so what if Fable 2 came out first? It is on a different platform altogether. Notice how Halo 3 didn't affect Mario Kart Wii sales at all even though they basically arrived within a couple of days of one another.
Actually, this thread is the real damage control. Fable 2 flopped, while LBP didn't (On GS of course) All this thread is trying to do is shine a light on Fable 2's sales while putting down LBP's. They're comparing a open world RPG to a 3 hour platformer, in which it's lasting power is user created content. Keyword here being lasting power. Whether it will last has yet to be seen.LBP was never going to be a milliion seller. As several others have stated, platformers just don't bring down the house like they once did unless the word Mario appears in the title. The level creator aspect is only going to appeal to a niche audience. Just look at Blastwork's numbers. Even at $20 or whatever it is now, it's not grabbing too much attention and there wasn't a review written that didn't praise the level creator/trader. The vast majority of gamers like to play games, not make them.
Anyway, it will do respectable all the same. My bet is it'll break half a millon copies world-wide, but not much more.
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.He said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
Fawlcon_Pawnch
Who said it was popular? I used Galaxy as an example that people do want platformers but the genre has been, in general, so uninspiring over the last years that most devs dont have ambition when making them.
If good platformers start rolling out with proper budget, ambition and advertisement (like Galaxy) people will buy.
With that said, i think LBP wasnt advertised properly, its a new IP and it needed a much more agressive marketing strategy behind it, with Sackboy toys and all.
Um that is what Sony has been doing. So ..... anyway I have see lots of commercials for LBP. SO they have been advertising it. Sony said so them selsves they were putting a lot of focus on LBP.LBP had more commercials then SMG and has the bigger budget. The thing SMG has over LBP is mario. Guarantee you if Nintendo had this game they would have called it Mario's Big Planet.
[QUOTE="dr-venkman"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copiestoo_much_eslim
He said "doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore."
Do i need to explain my post?
so one popular game sells well that means the genre is popular? Do you seriously not understand.From reading the above posts, I'm quite sure you're the one not understanding here. Dude its mario. everyone knows about mario. Mario on the box sells games. Mario selling isn't surprising. what the guy said was right. it doesn't matter how good the platformer is it isn't going to sell. Obviously unless mario is on the box. The original poster shouldn't have made his post in regard to all platformers. But he did, and that includes Mario. How can there be an argument over this? Saying it''s going to sell regardless because it has Mario in it is not fact. It is speculation. It's like me saying "football games sell terrible." Then you say "uh, Madden!" and I respond "Of course Madden is going to sell. It's because it has Madden written on it!" You can't exclude a game just because it's a popular character. And that is what you're trying to do.lol at you thinking LBP would sell more than Fable 2 or even being comparable. the first Fable sold close to 3 million. Did you really think a new ip like LBP stood a chance against it. Then you have take in consideration of the messed up launch. Game is going to bomb hard. Once Resistance 2 and Gears 2 come out nobody is even going to think of LBP anymore.too_much_eslimSony's advertising campaign suggests otherwise.
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]lol at you thinking LBP would sell more than Fable 2 or even being comparable. the first Fable sold close to 3 million. Did you really think a new ip like LBP stood a chance against it. Then you have take in consideration of the messed up launch. Game is going to bomb hard. Once Resistance 2 and Gears 2 come out nobody is even going to think of LBP anymore.nervmeisterSony's advertising campaign suggests otherwise.
Wait, WHAT?
What adverting campaign?
...Sackboy CANNOT attack at all. What a lame design desicion. AdmiralDanwrong, you can punch other sackboys.
Sony's advertising campaign suggests otherwise.[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]lol at you thinking LBP would sell more than Fable 2 or even being comparable. the first Fable sold close to 3 million. Did you really think a new ip like LBP stood a chance against it. Then you have take in consideration of the messed up launch. Game is going to bomb hard. Once Resistance 2 and Gears 2 come out nobody is even going to think of LBP anymore.dreman999
Wait, WHAT?
What adverting campaign?
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42181.htmlhttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/42180.htmlhttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/41552.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-xXS841zAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytFUsWmHschttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpmQwghRAim not surprised at all
i think it will be one of those games that just sells at a consistent rate, gradually over time the community will grow obviously but for now people are just guna have to wait
Fable 2 is killing LBP in sales. Why do you think Fable 2 is selling at basically a 4-1 compared to LBP? Also I know its not official, but you know this is where the numbers are going. Why do you think LBP which is a great game isnt selling that well?Lionslove360
LBP was released on 10/25 and there were some stores like Wal-Mart that released it early. Still, the game really hasn't had a full week of sales yet that has been counted. Once the stats come out next week, we will know for sure how well this game has sold. I don't think it'll sell 1 million in it's first official week like Fable 2 did. I think it would sell at least 500K though.
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