as a fan of cod, imma be honest.....

battlefield 3 looks like its going to be on another level......i'm not biased i have my favorites.....right now crysis is my fav out of all the shooters i play, but that battlefield 3 looks sweet as hell, the gameplay looks smooth too, it seems like they took everything to tha next level from gameplay to graphics, i don't know anything about tha campaign yet, but it looks hella promising.

It does indeed look good.

you love COD, then you wont like BF3.

and on consoles, the graphics wont even look close to the trailer

maybe on PC..

but not on consoles.

I wish BF3 could outsell MW3.

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

you love COD, then you wont like BF3.

and on consoles, the graphics wont even look close to the trailer

monster-hunt

[QUOTE="monster-hunt"]

you love COD, then you wont like BF3.

and on consoles, the graphics wont even look close to the trailer

campzor

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

TheAcountantMan

Since when does controversy make a good game? If that's the case, Custer's Revenge is the best game ever made.

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

heytheredarlin

Since when does controversy make a good game? If that's the case, Custer's Revenge is the best game ever made.

maybe on PC..

but not on consoles.

KBFloYd

bf3 on consoles > mw2 on pc

[QUOTE="heytheredarlin"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

EddieTheHead84

Since when does controversy make a good game? If that's the case, Custer's Revenge is the best game ever made.

Uhhhhh.....no..no my logic is fine, but thanks for your opinion :|

Well i never really said in context "controversy makes a good game" so i guess that was my error since i didn't specify it enough.
What i meant in context,was that the way MW2/Infinity Ward, used controversy in MW2, it was surprising and it was good it made the game stand out EVEN more, i liked it, and im sure most COD fans liked it aswell, this doesnt mean im an avid fan of going into airports and shooting up the place, and i would not enjoy it IN REAL LIFE, but i DID enjoy it IN THE GAME in the context in WHICH controversy was USED by Infinity Ward.
Im not a "supporter" of shooting up airports and i don't support terrorism.
THE WAY MW2 used it was good, THE WAY and HOW it was USED in that CONTEXT, was what i liked about it.

Custer revenge, a game which ive never heard of till you brought it up, (so i googled it) its a game "based on a crude simulation of an apparent rape of a Native American woman"....how on earth in your right mind can you compare that to Modern Warfare 2 controversy?
MW2 is a military shooter..............you guys do know this right?
Its one of best selling and biggest games of all time, in case you guys haven't heard of it, here's a link to Modern Warfare 2, you should read up on it, incase you don't know what the series is about.
MW2's controversy is on war/terrorism......it is not on rape.

And its only PART of the game, you only do the No Russion mission ONCE, the whole game IS NOT based on going into airports and killing people.
It is NOT an airport killing simulation game, like how custer revenge is a simulation on the rape of native american women.
Custers revenge is wholly BASED on rape.

The way MW2 used controversy in ONE of its missions was DIFFERENT, from the WAY "Custers Revenge" used it and wholly based the game on rape.
In MW2 the entire game is not an airport killing simulation, it was just a PART of the game.
And you had the option to SKIP the mission if you wanted to.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="monster-hunt"]

you love COD, then you wont like BF3.

and on consoles, the graphics wont even look close to the trailer

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="monster-hunt"]

you love COD, then you wont like BF3.

and on consoles, the graphics wont even look close to the trailer

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="EddieTheHead84"]

[QUOTE="heytheredarlin"]

Since when does controversy make a good game? If that's the case, Custer's Revenge is the best game ever made.

TheAcountantMan

Uhhhhh.....no..no my logic is fine, but thanks for your opinion :|

Well i never really said in context "controversy makes a good game" so i guess that was my error since i didn't specify it enough.
What i meant in context,was that the way MW2/Infinity Ward, used controversy in MW2, it was surprising and it was good it made the game stand out EVEN more, i liked it, and im sure most COD fans liked it aswell, this doesnt mean im an avid fan of going into airports and shooting up the place, and i would not enjoy it IN REAL LIFE, but i DID enjoy it IN THE GAME in the context in WHICH controversy was USED by Infinity Ward.
Im not a "supporter" of shooting up airports and i don't support terrorism.
THE WAY MW2 used it was good, THE WAY and HOW it was USED in that CONTEXT, was what i liked about it.

Custer revenge, a game which ive never heard of till you brought it up, (so i googled it) its a game "based on a crude simulation of an apparent rape of a Native American woman"....how on earth in your right mind can you compare that to Modern Warfare 2 controversy?
MW2 is a military shooter..............you guys do know this right?
Its one of best selling and biggest games of all time, in case you guys haven't heard of it, here's a link to Modern Warfare 2, you should read up on it, incase you don't know what the series is about.
MW2's controversy is on war/terrorism......it is not on rape.

And its only PART of the game, you only do the No Russion mission ONCE, the whole game IS NOT based on going into airports and killing people.
It is NOT an airport killing simulation game, like how custer revenge is a simulation on the rape of native american women.
Custers revenge is wholly BASED on rape.

The way MW2 used controversy in ONE of its missions was DIFFERENT, from the WAY "Custers Revenge" used it and wholly based the game on rape.
In MW2 the entire game is not an airport killing simulation, it was just a PART of the game.
And you had the option to SKIP the mission if you wanted to.

This post is asinine. You clearly missed the point of my post entirely. In sum, controvery does not make a game good.

I preferred BFBC 2 over both WaW and Black Ops, but if MW3 atleast has destructible envirnments, Ill definitely give it a look. I do prefer the Battlefield gameplay formula over CoD's, so I will more than likely get BF3 even though I dont have a PC that can come close to running it at max. In fact with my current set up from the way it sounds, Ill be playing at medium which probably on par with the console versions visually.

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

TheAcountantMan

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

TheAcountantMan

[QUOTE="heytheredarlin"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

Uhhhhh.....no..no my logic is fine, but thanks for your opinion :|

Well i never really said in context "controversy makes a good game" so i guess that was my error since i didn't specify it enough.
What i meant in context,was that the way MW2/Infinity Ward, used controversy in MW2, it was surprising and it was good it made the game stand out EVEN more, i liked it, and im sure most COD fans liked it aswell, this doesnt mean im an avid fan of going into airports and shooting up the place, and i would not enjoy it IN REAL LIFE, but i DID enjoy it IN THE GAME in the context in WHICH controversy was USED by Infinity Ward.
Im not a "supporter" of shooting up airports and i don't support terrorism.
THE WAY MW2 used it was good, THE WAY and HOW it was USED in that CONTEXT, was what i liked about it.

Custer revenge, a game which ive never heard of till you brought it up, (so i googled it) its a game "based on a crude simulation of an apparent rape of a Native American woman"....how on earth in your right mind can you compare that to Modern Warfare 2 controversy?
MW2 is a military shooter..............you guys do know this right?
Its one of best selling and biggest games of all time, in case you guys haven't heard of it, here's a link to Modern Warfare 2, you should read up on it, incase you don't know what the series is about.
MW2's controversy is on war/terrorism......it is not on rape.

And its only PART of the game, you only do the No Russion mission ONCE, the whole game IS NOT based on going into airports and killing people.
It is NOT an airport killing simulation game, like how custer revenge is a simulation on the rape of native american women.
Custers revenge is wholly BASED on rape.

The way MW2 used controversy in ONE of its missions was DIFFERENT, from the WAY "Custers Revenge" used it and wholly based the game on rape.
In MW2 the entire game is not an airport killing simulation, it was just a PART of the game.
And you had the option to SKIP the mission if you wanted to.

TheAcountantMan

This post is asinine. You clearly missed the point of my post entirely. In sum, controvery does not make a game good.

Ugghhhh no...it's not asinine actually :| you brought up a controversial game that was wholly based on rape simulation which had absolutely NOTHING to do with what i posted, if anything, that is asinine and utterly moronic.

Since i never said controversy makes a game good.
(even though you keep on insisting that i said it"since when does controversy make a good game? If that's the case, Custer's Revenge is the best game ever made")

If you knew how to read, you'd know that i didn't say that, now... go back and if you wear glasses like me, i recommend you to put them on and go read my post because you obviously didn't read it in the first place, i never said controversy makes a game good.

What i meant was, which i already said, was that i liked the way MW2 USED controversy, i never said it makes a game good, do you understand?
The controversy in MW2 added to the greatness of the game, it "didnt make it good" but it ADDED to it overall the game would have been amazing withour controversy...but IT ADDED overall...
I liked HOW it was used in MW2, i never said it made a game good, which you keep on moronically insisting that i said.

And then i followed up your reply, because you brought up a RAPE simulation game, a game that is ALL about simulating RAPE to Modern Warfare 2 controversy...do you even know what rape is, because im not sure if you do...a game thats sole idea is to rape a woman, who ever made thought that wouldn't be a controversial game is an idiot.
This is what rape means.
Custers revenge is an awful game, with controversy, controversy doesnt make a game good, and it didnt add anything to Custers Revenge, because its sole idea was to simulate rape.
Controversy adde to the greatness of MW2.

MW2 is not soley based on controversy it was just one mission that added to the overall greatness of the game that was controversial. how much more clearer do i need to make it?

"In sum, controvery does not make a game good."
I never said it did you idiot. -_- sheesh.

Yeah, you kind of did. You listed controversy along with two other things as high points for the game. You may have done it inadvertently, but you did indeed say it was one of the things that made Modern Warfare 2 a good game.

Even though we haven't seen any footage from Modern Warfare 3, I can already tell I'm going to tell that I'm going to like Battlefield 3 better.

Why?

Battlefield 3 =

• Destructible Enviroments
• Amazing graphics
• DICE knows how to do large scale warfare. (64 Player)
• Guns actually have recoil.
• Realism.

Infinity Ward is really going to have to step it up. I'm sick of the same COD every year. But who knows, they might surprise us. Hopefully.

You know people really talk up the destruction in BF as of late.... but I don't really like it. I feel like not having destruction is a better thing... because then you can't just blast away at an objective and clear it.

Imagine in cod if the buildings could blow up and you played headquarters... or demolition... it would be terrible.

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

forgot_it

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]

I understand thats your opinion,i obviously am not trying to change that, but ill like to present a rebuttal for COD, i am a fan of both BF and CODMW, but i like MW more than i do BF.
1 ) We haven't seen anything so far from MW3, but basing on what went from MW to MW2, we can expect sweet as hell gameplay, that looks smooth.
2 ) We can also expect controversy, like the the No Russian mission in MW2, its highly likely that MW3 will have controversial missions, that will surprise us.
3 ) MW3 does not have info released on it yet, but based on the previous games we can tell IT WILL be promising.

TheAcountantMan

When it comes down to it, all your points are invalid. Why? Because it's not even being made by the same developer.

You know people really talk up the destruction in BF as of late.... but I don't really like it. I feel like not having destruction is a better thing... because then you can't just blast away at an objective and clear it.

Imagine in cod if the buildings could blow up and you played headquarters... or demolition... it would be terrible.

Infinite_Access

It depends on the game mode out of the gate they got the destructability wrong for rush mode and people whored C4 to get extra points on the crates since then it has been toned down and most maps have at least one or two crates outside which can't be detroyed by bringing down a building. Imo Battlefield's destructability is fantastic and completely changes the dynamic of a FPS blowing away someone's cover is something you just don't get in othe FPS's. Anyway BF3 is about the only game im looking forward to this year as I love the BF games. I have high hopes for it as the graphics and the sound (can't believe noone has mentioned this) look unrivalled.