Assassin's Creed: Rogue Is Surprisingly Good. GS: 6/10.

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#1  Edited By freedomfreak
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Okay, before you mofos treat this as a blog, it isn't. It's... an awareness thread!

I'm already pretty drunk, so I'll try and make this comprehensible. Unity has received a LOT of coverage, for better or worse, but there was another AC coming - Rogue. The **** is Rogue? Exactly. Who knows? It's an AC game for 360 and Ps3(PC version later), and it went under the radar like a motherfucker. Why care about a last gen AC? Unity is out. Next gen. Pretty graphics, all that. But what about Rogue?

To quote Jeff Gerstmann: It just showed up in the mail, not prior to release, so maybe they didn't want a better game than Unity overshadowing it.

Now, this thread isn't about me talking of how better this is than Unity. I can't. I haven't played Unity. I'm just here to tell you that Rogue... Rogue's kinda cool. It's a lot like AC4, except this time you're a Templar? What does this mean? Well, you're not exactly going after targets that are easy to kill. You're going after assassins that are smarter than the average person with a sword. They hunt you, too. Imagine being the NPC being stalked by you in any of the other games, and this game is that. Assassins jump out of haystacks, jump from buildings, come around corners to kill you. It's easy to fend them off though, but it gives you a different perspective. Shay Cormac is also one cool dude. He's like a sophisticated Danny O'Dwyer. There's also quite a lot of AC3 throwbacks and characters .Helps if you played it, if you haven't.. then don't. I don't know.. Look it up on wikipedia.

Like I've said, it's pretty much like Black Flag, but it shows they didn't want to put out a carbon copy to make a quick buck. There's heart in this game. Plus, I've only had to do one tail mission so far, which already makes it better than Black Flag.

TL;DR AC: Rogue is surprisingly good, and it's well on its way to having me prefer it over Black Flag. It's not a simple cash grab. There's some nice additions to it, and the premise of you being a Templar isn't a throw-away thing. I hope people give this a chance, because it's pretty damn good.

Also, one of the weapons in this game is aFucking hell.

Grenade launcher

Anyone else playing this? You have questions?

Gamespot Review: 6/10

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#2  Edited By Mr-Powers
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I'll wait for the next gen version. It does sound better than unity.

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#3 freedomfreak
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@mr-powers said:

I'll wait for the next gen version. It does sound better than unity.

Oh yeah, I can totally see them doing an AC: Rogue HD version.

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Yeah, it looks amazing, but I'm gonna wait for the PS4 version.

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#5 blueinheaven
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Does it still have all those side missions and things to do on the map that are completely pointless? That's what I found odd in the AC games I played.

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#6 freedomfreak
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@blueinheaven said:

Does it still have all those side missions and things to do on the map that are completely pointless? That's what I found odd in the AC games I played.

Well, yeah, it's an open world game. Side content in general tends to be useless.

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@mr-powers said:

I'll wait for the next gen version. It does sound better than unity.

Anything is better than Unity...

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#8  Edited By lostrib
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sounds interesting

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#11 freedomfreak
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A broken game is worse than one that isn't broken? :O

SHOCKING!!!

Well, it's not just about that. I haven't ran into big ones. Just small ones. You just shrug when it happens.

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so is it like other AC games or more TPS?

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@lostrib said:

so is it like other AC games or more TPS?

Nah, it's definitely an AC game. A lot like Black Flag.

@Desmonic said:

Shrug my ass! :P Games don't make people violent. Lag, crappy fps and bloody game breaking glitches (like Arno falling through the damn floor) make people violent! :P

Also Rogue is better by default since it has an important story mission in Portugal >.>

I was gonna tell you about that Portugal mission. Doesn't end all that good though.

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#16  Edited By silversix_
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Surprisingly good for Ass Creed standards or in general? Cuz if its for Ass Creed standards that's a 5/10 for general gaming. I saw the quick look and felt asleep (jeff and the other guy didn't seem to enjoy it either).

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#17  Edited By blueinheaven
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@freedomfreak said:
@blueinheaven said:

Does it still have all those side missions and things to do on the map that are completely pointless? That's what I found odd in the AC games I played.

Well, yeah, it's an open world game. Side content in general tends to be useless.

I'm probably thinking with my RPG hat on where open world quests usually are worth doing. In AC1 and AC2 I kept asking myself WTF am I bothering with this? I liked Black Flag on PS4, what I played of it anyway. It's probably just not my type of game ultimately though I've always liked the stories and past/present aspect.

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@mr-powers said:

I'll wait for the next gen version. It does sound better than unity.

Yeah same here... Ever since they announced both, Rogue looked better to me.

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#19 R4gn4r0k  Online
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This game has a grenade launcher ?

AC Brotherhood had a f******* tank

...

Unity has microtransactions and you can connect your tablet... sometimes. Yay

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#20 freedomfreak
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@Desmonic said:

They forgot the tsunami though :S

Still, better than nothing I suppose :P

It's worse. Probably :P

@silversix_ said:

Surprisingly good for Ass Creed standards or in general? Cuz if its for Ass Creed standards that's a 5/10 for general gaming. I saw the quick look and felt asleep (jeff and the other guy didn't seem to enjoy it either).

Ass Creed standards, obviously. Also, Jeff and Brad played the intro. It's not that interesting.

@blueinheaven said:

I'm probably thinking with my RPG hat on where open world quests usually are worth doing. In AC1 and AC2 I kept asking myself WTF am I bothering with this? I liked Black Flag on PS4, what I played of it anyway. It's probably just not my type of game ultimately though I've always liked the stories and past/present aspect.

Well, if you dug AC4, then you'll probably like this. There's some side stuff worth doing, because the rewards are pretty sweet.

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#21 freedomfreak
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@R4gn4r0k said:

This game has a grenade launcher ?

AC Brotherhood had a f******* tank

...

Unity has microtransactions and you can connect your tablet... sometimes. Yay

Brotherhood only had that in one mission though :p

This game also has microtransactions. But I'm not getting them. They're optional.

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#22  Edited By R4gn4r0k  Online
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I gotta applaud the devs. They came from the horrible Price of Persia Trilogy (awful audio problems, one of my worst purchases ever) to the pretty terrible AC: Liberation. And now this seems to be up the level of Black Flag... very nice.

But I heard the SP is really short :(

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@mr-powers said:

I'll wait for the next gen version. It does sound better than unity.

Oh yeah, I can totally see them doing an AC: Rogue HD version.

Already confirmed: uplay. Coming in teh HD, with teh sixty FPS

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nice blog.

:kamiya:

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@freedomfreak said:

Brotherhood only had that in one mission though :p

This game also has microtransactions. But I'm not getting them. They're optional.

Well, in another mission you were flying around. Can you do that ? Huh ? ^^

I would like the option to buy a full priced product that doesn't have microtransactions :(

Nah, I'm playing Black Flag at the moment. Really nice naval combat, but the other gameplay is getting really stale. Going to take a break from AC for a while...

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@R4gn4r0k said:

Well, in another mission you were flying around. Can you do that ? Huh ? ^^

I would like the option to buy a full priced product that doesn't have microtransactions :(

Nah, I'm playing Black Flag at the moment. Really nice naval combat, but the other gameplay is getting really stale. Going to take a break from AC for a while...

Not really :p

there's penguins though! That's okay. It's what I wanna make clear. It's a lot like Black Flag.

@Desmonic said:

If the reports from that time are accurate we had the earthquake (which some geologists say was close to a 9.0 in the Ricther scale), which cause plenty of small-medium fires throughout the city, and then about an hour afterwards BAM! Tsunami!

It was Nature's way of saying "What's up, bros?" XD

--

But it was cool of them to use that as a main plot point for Shay :)

Well... It was pretty bad in Rogue :p

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Nope, Ubisoft Sophia.

Assassin's Creed Liberation sucked.

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Nope, Ubisoft Sophia.

Assassin's Creed Liberation sucked.

I liked it. I didn't go with the shitty Vita version though, because **** Vita.

A team can improve. If I didn't believe that, I would've never played the Arkham games.

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So far I'm really enjoying the game (rented at Redbox). That's coming from someone who hasn't really liked an AC game since the Enzio ones (I still haven't opened my copy of Unity). I'll definitely be buying this game for $35 on Black Friday.

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@coasterguy65 said:

So far I'm really enjoying the game (rented at Redbox). That's coming from someone who hasn't really liked an AC game since the Enzio ones (I still haven't opened my copy of Unity). I'll definitely be buying this game for $35 on Black Friday.

Nice. Glad I'm not the only one playing this :p

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@freedomfreak said:
@Blabadon said:

Nope, Ubisoft Sophia.

Assassin's Creed Liberation sucked.

I liked it. I didn't go with the shitty Vita version though, because **** Vita.

A team can improve. If I didn't believe that, I would've never played the Arkham games.

You would have played the Arkham games regardless.

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#34 freedomfreak
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@Blabadon said:

You would have played the Arkham games regardless.

Eh, it's still a good example of a meh developer making themselves go through "these guys are cool" kind of developer.

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Yeah, Rogue seems a lot better. Anything related to Black Flag has to be good.

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#36  Edited By B4X
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@freedomfreak:

How would you rank it compared to AC4? Head to Head.

I loved that game.

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@freedomfreak said:
@Blabadon said:

You would have played the Arkham games regardless.

Eh, it's still a good example of a meh developer making themselves go through "these guys are cool" kind of developer.

You're enjoying Rogue though right?

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@b4x said:

How would you rank it compared to AC4? Head to Head.

I loved that game.

Very, very close. I haven't finished it yet, but it could very well beat it.

The lack of tailing missions, and the environments being that much more varied makes a lot of difference.

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@Blabadon said:

You're enjoying Rogue though right?

Oh yeah, definitely. I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying it, considering it's this "backseat" AC game.

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@freedomfreak said:

@b4x said:

How would you rank it compared to AC4? Head to Head.

I loved that game.

Very, very close. I haven't finished it yet, but it could very well beat it.

The lack of tailing missions, and the environments being that much more varied makes a lot of difference.

Needs more tailing missions said no one ever. :p

Thanks man. I'll have to check it out.

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@freedomfreak said:
@Blabadon said:

You're enjoying Rogue though right?

Oh yeah, definitely. I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying it, considering it's this "backseat" AC game.

Okay I'm taking your word for it

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@b4x said:

Needs more tailing missions said no one ever. :p

Thanks man. I'll have to check it out.

I hope people do. I don't want people to shrug this off as a cash-in. It's surprisingly good.

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@Blabadon said:

Okay I'm taking your word for it

Imagine Black Flag with less tailing missions. Like, a lot less.

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@freedomfreak said:
@b4x said:

Needs more tailing missions said no one ever. :p

Thanks man. I'll have to check it out.

I hope people do. I don't want people to shrug this off as a cash-in. It's surprisingly good.

Do you have to have an app to open chests? They can take that idea and shove it in an a elephants ass in Farcry 4.

Sorry I missed that question.

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My favorite Assassin Creed game is Shadow of Mordor.

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@b4x said:

Do you have to have an app to open chests? They can take that idea and shove in an a elephants ass.

Sorry I missed that question.

Ha! No, nothing like that. There's Uplay, but that's it.

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@freedomfreak said:
@b4x said:

Do you have to have an app to open chests? They can take that idea and shove it in an a elephants ass in Farcry 4.

Sorry I missed that question.

Ha! No, nothing like that. There's Uplay, but that's it.

Cool thanks again.

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@ArisShadows said:

My favorite Assassin Creed game is Shadow of Mordor.

I'll be sure to play the 360 version that doesn't have the Nemesis system. Lack of Nemesis makes it more hardcore.

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@freedomfreak said:
@Blabadon said:

Okay I'm taking your word for it

Imagine Black Flag with less tailing missions. Like, a lot less.

And penguins?

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@Blabadon said:

And penguins?

Fucking 'A, man.