Assassin's Creed II footage; Has it revitalized your interest in the game?

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#1 samuraiguns
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Has it?

For me definetly...It looks like all the crap from the first game is GONE, eveything has been reworked and retweaked.

BUT, it could be just another trap...like the first one

Some of the Footage;

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/looting-mission-assassins-creed/59075

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/factions-trailer-assassins-creed/58544

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassinscreed2/video/6240136/gamespot-presents-now-playing--assassins-creed-ii

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#2 finalstar2007
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The game dose look good tho i wont buy it this year or probably next year as there will be tons of great games on ps3 next year and gotta start saving up for them.. might get this either end of 2010 or early 2011

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#3 Videodogg
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Still not interested.

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#4 samuraiguns
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lol, Story mode only games I wait for bargain bin; unless this is a big release...

Assassin's creed abused me domestically and now I can't look at him.

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The more I see of ACII, the more I just want it for the SC: Conviction demo voucher...

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#7 burstlimit514
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I was buying it anyway!!!! CAN't wait!!!

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#8 Sollet
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I will be picking this up at the end of the week.
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#9 haziqonfire
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Cannot wait for AC2. AC1 was amazing and one of my favourite pure fun experiences this gen.
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#10 Revolution316
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i asked ppl that have the game already and they said that it improved on the first game but can still get alittle boring and it has no replay value. also they said that it looks like that the graphics on the first game was alittle better. more detailed textures. they sacrificed graphics for more AI on the screen in AC2. it looks like i will only be renting this game

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#11 samuraiguns
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i asked ppl that have the game already and they said that it improved on the first game but can still get alittle boring and it has no replay value. also they said that it looks like that the graphics on the first game was alittle better. more detailed textures. they sacrificed graphics for more AI on the screen in AC2. it looks like i will only be renting this game

Revolution316

The Graphics in the first game was lackluster...how could they go lower?

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#12 Junior_AIN
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Revitalized? I always thought this game was gonna be the game of the year, and I still do. I'm trying stay strong and don't watch too much movies about the game but unfortunately I couldn't resist the 40 minutes of AC2 from GS. This game will be awesome.
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#13 Animal-Mother
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I was always excited for this. Regardless of score or what I am getting this sometime this week

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#14 DonPerian
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they sacrificed graphics for more AI on the screen in AC2. it looks like i will only be renting this game

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Good. AC looks great already, I'm sure AC II will look better - even if only slightly. More AI matters, it'll add to the immersion.

The first in the franchise is one of my favorites this gen. I could get lost for hours just climbing around the cities. And this one is set in Italy! Gah, can't wait.

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#15 SolidTy
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I know this is odd, but I'm not interested, and those vids didn't help.

It all came down the E3 presentation this 2009 E3....I came away thinking I didn't want it at all. If I see it cheap, maybe one day. I bought AC when it first came out and I bought the stupid collector's edition. It really disappointed me, but I know others loved it. So they'll have plenty of fans in love, but I got bored 25% in the game, it was just repetitive.

The game looks to be more of the same, hunt down and kill, escape, get on a horse and ride around, repeat, repeat, repeat...too boring for me.

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#16 XileLord
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I like the first game so I'll obviously buy this one but after i get MW2 because SP games don't last long after they are beaten.

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#17 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i asked ppl that have the game already and they said that it improved on the first game but can still get alittle boring and it has no replay value. also they said that it looks like that the graphics on the first game was alittle better. more detailed textures. they sacrificed graphics for more AI on the screen in AC2. it looks like i will only be renting this game

samuraiguns

The Graphics in the first game was lackluster...how could they go lower?

AC2 has alot mroe colors so it may seem that it looks better but thats not the case. more computer AI on the screen in a more living breathing world instead of improving graphics in this game

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#18 XileLord
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I know this is odd, but I'm not interested, and those vids didn't help.

It all came down the E3 presentation this 2009 E3....I came away thinking I didn't want it at all. If I see it cheap, maybe one day. I bought AC when it first came out and I bought the stupid collector's edition. It really disappointed me, but I know others loved it. So they'll have plenty of fans in love, but I got bored 25% in the game, it was just repetitive.

The game looks to be more of the same, hunt down and kill, escape, get on a horse and ride around, repeat, repeat, repeat...too boring for me.

SolidTy

Isn't GTA, Saints row, Crackdown, Fable 2 etc pretty much the same? Ride/walk/drive around and kill with a few different missions here and there while progressing through and listening to the story? The problem with AC1 was it was the same 9 times over but in AC2 they've completely changed it by adding vendors that sell armor and weapons, improved storyline, many new types of missions, better scenery, smarter AI, improved graphics and overall just a way better experience then the last. Just because AC1 might have been repetitive doesn't mean this game will be

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Cant wait for this game. See other devs ... this game has a 20 hour story.
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#20 Parasomniac
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No. The original game sucked.
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#21 shawn7324
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I was already interested, got it preordered. Gotta work 16 Tomorrow so I won't start on the game until Wednesday.

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#22 StealthSting
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Yes, the recent footage has picked my interest a little bit. I enjoyed the first one(even though I didn't find the story anything special) so this was definitely on the list.

But, there is still a few things I'm not exactly enjoying on this one; while greater variety of missions would always be a plus for me, I didn't like the idea of having missions being confined in interior/tight/linear mindset places/design as in Prince of Persia(don't know how many there will be in the game though), if there is one thing I liked about the first game was that its platforming elements were conducted with a freeform set in mind(with the exception of the very beggining of the game), even if the missions were very linear in structure, it was still something that was never done to this level.

The recent videos have also dwindled my fear of having the architectural structure of the game be a complete rip off of the first one. I still see lots of things in there that seem shamefully familiar, but I can let it slide. Though, if there was one thing I enjoyed in the first one, was how that architecture was portraid and how much heart the team behind the game must have put to make it come to life. I just don't feel that here to the exact same extent as I did in the first one.

Also, I don't know why, but there is still something about the look of the game that makes me prefer the first one in this department.

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To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

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I don't need to see footage to know it's going to be an awesome game because the first one was so good to me.
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To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

Rekunta

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

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#26 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

BioShockOwnz

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

Not even the Bargain Bin, guys?
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I'm all ready to go pick the game up tomorrow... but I don't think I'll be able to play it, because I have a big paper (10-12 pages, own research, on the Samnyasa Upanishads and their connection to food and Yajna) due on Monday.

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#28 thens1563
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I know this is odd, but I'm not interested, and those vids didn't help.

It all came down the E3 presentation this 2009 E3....I came away thinking I didn't want it at all. If I see it cheap, maybe one day. I bought AC when it first came out and I bought the stupid collector's edition. It really disappointed me, but I know others loved it. So they'll have plenty of fans in love, but I got bored 25% in the game, it was just repetitive.

The game looks to be more of the same, hunt down and kill, escape, get on a horse and ride around, repeat, repeat, repeat...too boring for me.

SolidTy

I feel like I'm the only person who didn't feel like it was repetitive.

On topic: I loved the first game and will probably get this one around Christmas.

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I'll get it around Christmas I think, it looks great and I really enjoyed AC I just hope there's less Sci-Fi garbo and more quality
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#30 foxhound_fox
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To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation [...]

Rekunta


I just watched the gondola mission video the TC posted and am kicking myself that I won't be able to play the game until I'm done my paper. I've been anticipating this game since its announcment... and both the first and this one are "love it/hate it" type games. I think a major problem is a lot of people go in expecting a certain type of game and end up with something else.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

samuraiguns

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

Not even the Bargain Bin, guys?

I'm picking it up tomorrow! :lol: Maybe I'm just trying to make it so that I won't be disappointed if it turns out just "meh", but I'm still looking forward to it. I liked the first one in very short spurts. From what I've read this one will have more depth, I just hope it's enough to break the repetitiveness of the original. It's just not much has been shown in the videos that show any significant changes from the first which worries me.

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#32 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation [...]

foxhound_fox


I just watched the gondola mission video the TC posted and am kicking myself that I won't be able to play the game until I'm done my paper. I've been anticipating this game since its announcment... and both the first and this one are "love it/hate it" type games. I think a major problem is a lot of people go in expecting a certain type of game and end up with something else.

Ah, your paper can wait... :P

Yea, I think the reason the first was a disappointment for me was that I was expecting a new Hitman dressed in old clothes. For such a large, open world sandbox game, there was really no freedom on how to go about killing the mark, which made it feel shallow. It sounds like they've worked on this aspect though, so who knows.

*crosses fingers*

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I'm afraid nothing will revitalize my interest in it. While the engine is one of the best I've experienced given the tons of moves one can do with Altair including free climbing, the game didn't have a concept. Gamers were supposed to assasinate a number of bad guys in the first game but did we really kill them? We didn't do anything other than leading the main character to where the point of assassination was. Evasdropping and using the horse to avoid crossing the vast areas of sand on foot and timed-moves battles were tottally useless. I would have liked it more if we had a role in both the assassinations and battles. The time-moves in battle killed the action for me. Altair being able to fly and polishing the graphics won't add much to the gameplay.

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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

BioShockOwnz

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

well i disagree, the point of an assassin is not to be a mindless killer they are usually methodical and plan the killing far before they attempt it. So why would you be able to kill every guard you come across unless you are methodical and cunning? Im not saying they may have marketed this game wrong but i always felt that in the first game there was no reason to be fighting the guards because you are trying to run from them as you just killed their political leader/tie. The whole point is to blend in, not start killing people in the open.

but needless to say i loved the first one so im getting this day one.

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Been playing it for about two hours, got it at midnight launch. Like what I've been playing. The intro was awesome and the pacing of the story is great.. also those investigation missions are gone and it seems to just be a better built game overall. I'm tired now though and I'm going to bed until tomorrow when I start playing again, but I definitely like it. More then the first too and I loved AC1.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

To be honest the vidoes have lessened my anticipation, especially the 40 minute demo that entailed constantly running away from twenty guards if you so much as kick a pebble on the ground in the wrong direction. That video was a horrible demonstration and a disappointment. It looks to be just as shallow as its predecessor from what I've seen so far. Also,every video I've seen has a horribly choppy framerate. Maybe it's just Youtube and such, but it looks to be in every one, no matter where I see it.

I'm hoping for the best, but predict an 8.5-9 from GS's review, if not lower.

njean777

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

well i disagree, the point of an assassin is not to be a mindless killer they are usually methodical and plan the killing far before they attempt it. So why would you be able to kill every guard you come across unless you are methodical and cunning? Im not saying they may have marketed this game wrong but i always felt that in the first game there was no reason to be fighting the guards because you are trying to run from them as you just killed their political leader/tie. The whole point is to blend in, not start killing people in the open.

but needless to say i loved the first one so im getting this day one.

Rather than planning, we're given orders and being told what to do. A messege flashes at the bottom of the screen saying you should evasdrop or sit in that seat or follow this guy or do whatever it tells you to do. This isn't planning. Choosing which path to take, how to getrid of the bad guys, being able to actually kill the guards without having to wait forAltair's turn as if we were in a turn-based RPG, not limiting moves in certain levels or areas e.g. pretending to be a preist and other tricks would have helped making it more enertaining. Involving gamers and having them actually think of what to do next is better than telling them what to do. That's what I think anyway.

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Rather than planning, we're given orders and being told what to do. A messege flashes at the bottom of the screen saying you should evasdrop or sit in that seat or follow this guy or do whatever it tells you to do. This isn't planning. Choosing which path to take, how to getrid of the bad guys, being able to actually kill the guards without having to wait forAltair's turn as if we were in a turn-based RPG, not limiting moves in certain levels or areas e.g. pretending to be a preist and other tricks would have helped making it more enertaining. Involving gamers and having them actually think of what to do next is better than telling them what to do. That's what I think anyway.

I agree, but alas we can not have people think anymore can we? thats what i feel anyways. But im a sucker for any stealth game. Even though the first one wasnt always stealthy i still loved it.

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#38 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="njean777"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Bingo. That footage did not make this game look fun. It seems the guards A.I. is super smart instead of super dumb, which is a bad thing here, as it seems like it makes the game less fun. Wooo, running around for hours and hours. This will be another AAA title that doesn't deserve its score. Meh to the max. Conviction demo, here I come!

gamingqueen

well i disagree, the point of an assassin is not to be a mindless killer they are usually methodical and plan the killing far before they attempt it. So why would you be able to kill every guard you come across unless you are methodical and cunning? Im not saying they may have marketed this game wrong but i always felt that in the first game there was no reason to be fighting the guards because you are trying to run from them as you just killed their political leader/tie. The whole point is to blend in, not start killing people in the open.

but needless to say i loved the first one so im getting this day one.

Rather than planning, we're given orders and being told what to do. A messege flashes at the bottom of the screen saying you should evasdrop or sit in that seat or follow this guy or do whatever it tells you to do. This isn't planning. Choosing which path to take, how to getrid of the bad guys, being able to actually kill the guards without having to wait forAltair's turn as if we were in a turn-based RPG, not limiting moves in certain levels or areas e.g. pretending to be a preist and other tricks would have helped making it more enertaining. Involving gamers and having them actually think of what to do next is better than telling them what to do. That's what I think anyway.

You nailed it right on the head. They create this huge world, then give you a very linear path to accomplish your mission. There is really no choice, just go here and do this. Why can't I go about planning my kill? Give me a huge variety of ways and let me decide. How about poisoning them? Or waiting until they're asleep and sneak in for the kill? Or bribe the gaurds for useful intel? Use archery from afar? Maybe kill a character who holds close association with the main target to steal their clothes to gain closer proximity? That's where the challenge should lie, planning and successfully executing a hit, not just doing it at said time, and not fleeing and fighting twenty guards afterwards. It should be that once the guards are after you, you've seriously ****ed up, your chances of survival are very slim and you're pretty much already dead. That'd make it all the more tense and fulfilling when successful.

It's really too bad, because the engine is amazing, the characters are cool, and being able to climb everywhere is a hell of a lot of fun. It has a lot of potential which they have hopefully capatilized on. They need to put the choice in the player's hands, which is what I'm hoping for with this one.

I'm basing all this on the first game though, obviously...

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#39 SolidTy
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I know this is odd, but I'm not interested, and those vids didn't help.

It all came down the E3 presentation this 2009 E3....I came away thinking I didn't want it at all. If I see it cheap, maybe one day. I bought AC when it first came out and I bought the stupid collector's edition. It really disappointed me, but I know others loved it. So they'll have plenty of fans in love, but I got bored 25% in the game, it was just repetitive.

The game looks to be more of the same, hunt down and kill, escape, get on a horse and ride around, repeat, repeat, repeat...too boring for me.

XileLord

Isn't GTA, Saints row, Crackdown, Fable 2 etc pretty much the same? Ride/walk/drive around and kill with a few different missions here and there while progressing through and listening to the story? The problem with AC1 was it was the same 9 times over but in AC2 they've completely changed it by adding vendors that sell armor and weapons, improved storyline, many new types of missions, better scenery, smarter AI, improved graphics and overall just a way better experience then the last. Just because AC1 might have been repetitive doesn't mean this game will be

Isn't GTA, Saints row, Crackdown, Fable 2...

Yes, and I don't like those games much either. To be honest, I'm playing Borderlands right now, and I'm so tired of Sandbox games. It's a fantastic game, but you end up running to and fro, it's tiresome and makes the game unnessarily longer.

Anyways, just because AC1 was any which way is correct. I'm not saying I won't like AC2, I'm saying right now everything I've seen tells me to avoid it until it's cheaper. It will be up to my buddies and some reviewers I trust to say the right things in the interviews. If Sandbox pops up, I put up with Crackdown, Borderlands and such since they have MP and I have friends that love that crap. To be honest, I'm playing for them, and I'm obviously quite good at it...but it bores me so much. If I can save some money and check out AC2 on the cheap, I will. I may never even buy it.

Of course, that's a preview for ya, the read deal will be those that I trust to sell me.:)

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#40 Racer850
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looks fantastic!