Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One

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#1  Edited By MrYaotubo
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TL;DR version:

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff"

LOL

Dat console parity.

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Assassin's Creed Unity will run at 900p/30fps on both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Ubisoft has confirmed, with the publisher opting to aim for platform parity to avoid discussion over the differences in performance.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff," senior producer Vincent Pontbriand told VideoGamer.com while explaining that it's the consoles' CPUs – not the GPU – that prevents Ubisoft Montreal from improving the game's performance.

"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.

"We were quickly bottlenecked by that and it was a bit frustrating, because we thought that this was going to be a tenfold improvement over everything AI-wise, and we realised it was going to be pretty hard. It's not the number of polygons that affect the framerate. We could be running at 100fps if it was just graphics, but because of AI, we're still limited to 30 frames per second."

Last year's Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag also shipped at 900p/30fps on both PS4 and Xbox One. A post-release patch, however, bumped the PS4 version to 1080p. Ubisoft has given no indication that it has plans to do the same for Unity.

Assassin's Creed Unity launches on PS4, Xbox One and PC on November 14.

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#2  Edited By stereointegrity
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"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

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#3 misterpmedia
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@MrYaotubo said:

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

Dat console parity lol.

tl;dr edition.

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Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed. Thanks Lemmings.

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#5  Edited By Chutebox
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Wow lol

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I wonder how the The Witcher 3 will fare then..

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So parity wins when the game is cpu bond.

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#9  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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First deliberately gimped multiplat confirmed. I love it.

Thank you Phil. You can tell he's a gamer, right?

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This is going to cause riots and deaths of innocent people. Of course, I don't see this news anywhere else..Yet.

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#11 Chutebox
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Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed. Thanks Lemmings.

Lemmings didn't make the Xbox.

I will be playing this on the PC.

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@speedfreak48t5p: your welcome

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@GrenadeLauncher said:

First deliberately gimped multiplat confirmed. I love it.

Thank you Phil. You can tell he's a gamer, right?

The CPU's are the same in both consoles. You can blame AMD for that one.

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@clyde46 said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

First deliberately gimped multiplat confirmed. I love it.

Thank you Phil. You can tell he's a gamer, right?

The CPU's are the same in both consoles. You can blame AMD for that one.

Which means dude is misinformed or just BSing.

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#16  Edited By misterpmedia
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed.

Next up The Witcher. Dat Xbone lowest denominator anchoring this entire gen.

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LOL tchbo

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XBO CPU is OC'ed higher then PS4. Which is a little smig less then 10% faster.

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And still 4K on PC

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#20  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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lazy devs.

"we could do better, but it's going to make Xbone owners upset, so we'd rather not have that."

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Ubisoft just trolled the whole world.

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lol.

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#23  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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ps4 version will get patched to 1080p because of the backlash this is going to cause, as for xbox see the gif above.

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#24  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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These consoles are so disappointing power wise

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@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

but the PS4's GPU has 4 CUs that were put there with the purpose of GPGPU and it seems they are not using them. And beside, since when is resolution bound to CPU anyway?

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#26 Chutebox
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@Gue1 said:

@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

but the PS4's GPU has 4 CUs that were put the with the purpose of GPGPU and it seems they are not using them. And beside, since when is resolution bound to CPU anyway?

Another reason why what he said makes no sense.

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Well, preorder canceled then.

I was up to give AC a last chance with Unity, but sub1080p is not an option to me this gen.

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@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

I think that's the point? I mean they could probably make the PS4 version look better or have a higher res but figured that it wasn't worth the effort. I wish I understood more about rendering technology though. Sadly, I'm not a software designer.

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@ActicEdge said:

@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

I think that's the point? I mean they could probably make the PS4 version look better or have a higher res but figured that it wasn't worth the effort. I wish I understood more about rendering technology though. Sadly, I'm not a software designer.

Not gonna lie, I don't understand this crap either. But he points to the CPUs as the reason graphics/FPS are the same and saying the AI is limiting the graphics. Does AI have anything to do with GPU?

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#30  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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just found this on gaff #lol

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#31  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@ActicEdge said:

@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

I think that's the point? I mean they could probably make the PS4 version look better or have a higher res but figured that it wasn't worth the effort. I wish I understood more about rendering technology though. Sadly, I'm not a software designer.

This has to be one of the only times "lazy devs," actually has some merit.

Kind of confusing how Sony would let something like this slide when in the past they've been very adamant about having exclusive content in some form on the platform. the ps4's technical chops over the xbone is one of it's biggest selling points when it comes to multiplats.

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#32  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs E3 vs PC ultra exists.

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#34  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

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Lol shitty tablet CPUs confirmed.

Also lol @ Ubishit.

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I'm laughing so hard. I never thought any publisher would not only be dumb enough to do it but then publicly announce the reason. They don't even give lems the benefit of ambiguity.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

So much so that apparently maybe they feel graphical differences are leading to a fluctuation in sales across the platforms. Which is a stupid argument in itself because copies are still being sold.

I hope this doesn't become a trend. Choosing to do less, when you could do more? that's the very definition of lazy.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

That can't be right....looks like a PS2 game. And if the X1 version looks like that, so will the PS4 version.

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#39  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

Ofcourse it's holding it back. Read stupid. The point is anybody getting upset over this, while every game gets held back because of both piece of shit consoles. Just like last gen. Just like always.

Or how about locked 30fps on games like NFS Rivals, DR3, and The Crew.

Still, if it is indeed CPU based, what's the difference between btoh the ps and xbox CPU's

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

That can't be right....looks like a PS2 game. And if the X1 version looks like that, so will the PS4 version.

its a screenshot from hands on session, ps4 version will get patched to 1080p, no way in hell ubisoft survive the shitstorm this is going to cause.

heres another screen http://i.minus.com/iG6b84PyeeKOj.png

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

That can't be right....looks like a PS2 game. And if the X1 version looks like that, so will the PS4 version.

I don't think you remember what PS2 games look like.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed. Thanks Lemmings.

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#43  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@deadline-zero0 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

Ofcourse it's holding it back. Read stupid. The point is anybody getting upset over this, while every game gets held back because of both piece of shit consoles. Just like last gen. Just like always.

Or how about locked 30fps on games like NFS Rivals, DR3, and The Crew.

Still, if it is indeed CPU based, what's the difference between btoh the ps and xbox CPU's

so why u bitching and moaning when someone says x1 is holding ps4 back? games like nfs/dr3 sell like shit on pc no wonder they get the botch treatment, if u pc gamers actually bought the games then the devs would take more care into porting them. without consoles gaming would be dead, u think ubisoft/ea would invest money just to release games on pc? lol hell no

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#44  Edited By ActicEdge
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@Chutebox said:

@ActicEdge said:

@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

I think that's the point? I mean they could probably make the PS4 version look better or have a higher res but figured that it wasn't worth the effort. I wish I understood more about rendering technology though. Sadly, I'm not a software designer.

Not gonna lie, I don't understand this crap either. But he points to the CPUs as the reason graphics/FPS are the same and saying the AI is limiting the graphics. Does AI have anything to do with GPU?

I imagine the CPU handles the AI and other game logic and the GPU is responsible for drawing the graphics to the game world. I just am not sure if the CPU and GPU must interact in any way if they want to say increase the resolution. I would imagine texture wise though the CPU wouldn't matter since it's just swapping out one texture for another and the PS4 RAM bandwidth would help on that front but I dunno about resolution. I wanna assume no but not 100% sure.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

That can't be right....looks like a PS2 game. And if the X1 version looks like that, so will the PS4 version.

its a screenshot from hands on session, ps4 version will get patched to 1080p, no way in hell ubisoft survive the shitstorm this is going to cause.

heres another screen http://i.minus.com/iG6b84PyeeKOj.png

I guess cows can hope but even at a higher res it still looks like shit.

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Announced in the same hour as Ground Zeroes being 4K on PC too.

**** this, time to join the mustard race.

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@Chutebox said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

here is screenshot of x1 version, its a jaggy mess

http://i.minus.com/ix83nsL88YGFP.png

@deadline-zero0 said:

Can't wait for the "xbone holding back the ps4" from cows while shit like Watch Dogs exists.

it is holding it back, the devs have said so themselves

That can't be right....looks like a PS2 game. And if the X1 version looks like that, so will the PS4 version.

I don't think you remember what PS2 games look like.

I am exaggerating of course but still looks horrible

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#48  Edited By PapaTrop
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Just get some gamer glasses. They make 900p look like 1080p.

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#49 ActicEdge
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@ActicEdge said:

@Chutebox said:

Wait, aren't the CPUs basically the same?

I think that's the point? I mean they could probably make the PS4 version look better or have a higher res but figured that it wasn't worth the effort. I wish I understood more about rendering technology though. Sadly, I'm not a software designer.

This has to be one of the only times "lazy devs," actually has some merit.

Kind of confusing how Sony would let something like this slide when in the past they've been very adamant about having exclusive content in some form on the platform. the ps4's technical chops over the xbone is one of it's biggest selling points when it comes to multiplats.

It's not Sony's call. You can't make some other company who is spending millions of dollars on their game develop it how you want. They also have a co marketing deal with MS so I don't see them taking money for Sony when that would directly violate it.