Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One

LOL, did you seriously use titanfall as an example?

Sure, if you want to ignore what is known, and what is likely, anything is possible.

They could be a front for an international criminal organization and this is Phase One for World Domination.... But that's far less likely than the hypothesis you're arguing against.

Just because you have two different theories doesn't mean they are equally plausible. Your attempt to discredit one by comparing it to a far less likely one is an attempt to create false equivalency. And a rather obvious one at that.

If the CPU can keep up the GPU will be ok That jaguar on a console is way more effective than the same jaguar on PC and you know it,what you will get as DX12 on PC consoles has had them for years,keeping the GPU feed for those GPU is not an issue those are not Titans or R290X is a damn 7770 and a damn 7850-OC so yeah a 6 cores out of order execution CPU even at 1.6mhz is enough on both consoles.

This is Ubisoft washing its face on this sh** we all know the whole Watchdogs crap they pulled with the downgraded visual even on PC/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838538

Have you forgot this ^^^.?

They did it even on PC so yeah the CPU is not the problem and lowering the resolution will free GPU resources not CPU ones,if the CPU can't handle the AI and other stuff in 1080p it would have the same problems in 900p because those routines stay the same unless you draw less people,lower AI,or lower your CPU usage it will still be the same.

BF4 online is 900p on PS4 and 720p on xbox one and runs 10 FPS slower on xbox one across the board to.

The xbox one CPU is the same so if the PS4 is sh** so is the xbox one in fact Ubi claim both are a bottleneck.

Killzone touched that because online maps are more enclosed than offline game idiot.

Watchdogs was superior on PS4 so was ACBF..lol

Multithreading like hyperthreading is doing more than 1 thing at once.

Intel pentiuns were 1 core and had hyperthreading which is basically running more than 1 thing at once.

Cell was definitely multithreaded.

You know what the sad part is that MS billions is behind this kind of sh** did you see developers holding back the xbox 360 version back because of the PS3 difficulty.? No they did not care and sony certainly didn't pay for parity.

MS has a deal with Ubi on this game,MS listed Assassins Creed as exclusive on a list as well as COD and another game as well,this is a joke i would not be surprise to see the same sh** with COD,MS paying millions so developers hold back the PS4...lol

I call it long ago and Ubi confirmed today parity reached..

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

@Tighaman: PS4 holding the industry back? lmao. You Lems are clowns. What's the point of debating with you guys, you spout the most obvious Bullshit.

So they're about on par with Sony Fanboys

I don't know too much about all the hoopla about last gen....but didn't they not care about how multiplats ran better on the 360 last gen?

What the **** is with the concern all of a sudden.

Is MS buying the parity?

all the cows are having heart attacks over at neofag.

lol funny stuff, I love when cows get mad.

No, just the PS4 with their weak ass cpu.

If nothing else, this thread at least demonstrates the reading level lemmings are at.

Lemmings are not taking the power difference well at all.

Holy shit, this is amazing as ****. Ubisoft actually had the balls to come out and say 'we don't want to piss off Microsoft, so we held back the PS4 version to match the inferior Xbone.' Ell oh fucking ell.

I don't know if I want to get the game anymore. I mean, I want it, I really want to play it, but I don't want to support a game maker that forgets the all important 'GAMES' part.

Enjoy paying full price for a sub HD game lol

WTF.............hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Come on man last gen 95% of the games were superior on 360 and 360 fans discuss that sh** to hell and beyond,not one developer hold back the 360 because the PS3 was to difficult man.'

This was Ubisoft 100% sure pay by MS and the deal they have on this game,today Ubi basically confirm it,they gimped the PS4 version because the xbox one version all it could reach was 900p.

I would juts love to see them cap the fu*8ing game on PC to see reactions,oh wait they did on Watchdogs same company same sh** they hell back the PC version so that it didn't over shadow consoles,i am a console owner but that is total bullsh** and a shame is a disrespectful move by a company just like EA did by capping NFS at 30FPS on PC.

Is an insult to any one who invested in a GPU powerful enough to run that game like they wanted,i would not even dare supporting a game like that,i own AC BF on PS4,they can shove AC unity down their buns i don't want that crap.

Not even on PC i would buy it,who know if they did the same sh** they did to Watchdogs.

Yep you are right if the PS4 had to use GpGPU it would probably tax the GPU,the problem is that if the PS4 used lets say 2 CU for compute that still leave 16 CU for rendering and 16 CU still >>>> 12 CU inside the xbox one.

Not only that since the CPU are the same that would imply that the xbox one would also need 2 GPU CU from its GPU to match the PS4 GpGPU performance.

This is simple the xbox one has 12CU and a 8 core jaguar,the PS4 has 18 CU and a 8 core jaguar.

The only CPU benchmark we have give actually the edge to the PS4,even that the xbox one CPU is 1.75mhz and the PS4 1.6,i think HSC and GDDR5 are the reason for that.

So parting from the point that both CPU are alike and that if the PS4 CPU could not cut it,the xbox one would cut it even less,if the PS4 used GpGPU that would also mean the xbox one need it GpGPU,so that would still mean a gap in favor of the PS4 10 CU vs 16 CU.

For example running physics on the GPU would take a fraction of the power it would take CPU and would be faster,so using GpGPU for compute is a good one,problem is the xbox one also need the same GpGPU to pull those same resource,not only that the PS4 was better customize to handle GpGPU than the xbox one was volatile bit 8 aces 64 commands,the end result would still be the same or even worse.

Free roaming doesn't stop the game for been scripted dude,what the fu** all games are scripted when a sudden mission appear out of no where when you did something yeah that was a script,when you do a mission to progress the story that was a script,the difference is that you have multiple way to do things and on FPS mostly you are been guided basically.

The simple fact that you eat this sh** when you know Ubisoft hyded PC setting to on purpose gimp PC graphics so that they didn't over shadow the consoles say it all,that Jaguar is enough for anything those GPU do those are not freaking titan black that would be hurt by those GPU those are low end GPU which are made to work with normal CPU not ultra powerful top of the line ones.

When GpGPU kick into place the xbox one will fall even more behind the PS4 was modify for it.

lol..hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

let's see how my 5930k will handle this game lol.

Well, ps4 has been holding back PC's.

Im glad you know how it feels.

The jaguar is the same architecture. which means you dealing cpu core performance equivalent to 2006 era processors. And low API does not allow those weak cpu's become stonger, All the low level API does is that they are able save the cpu cycles needed to do the job allowing more processing resources to go to other tasks. you seriously that blind? in understanding how weak these cpu's are especially because they are around 1.6 ghz. Now imagine a 6 core Athlon 64 K8 at 1.6 ghz and you should get the point.

all these new games are being limited to 30 fps for a reason... These cpu's at 1.6 ghz are bottlenecking the gpu's in games that require more cpu power. They really need to get gpgpu tasks going.

Why are you bringing up watchdogs? its a game that was meant for last gen, that ended up being mess them adding and taking out crap to it, a frankenstein of bad coding.

Actually No lowering resolution actually increases cpu load not lowering it since it takes less cpu resources in feeding the gpu which allows the other tasks get to use more cpu resources to do their tasks. So the strain is then transferred to the CPU, at a lower resolution, the fps is limited to the CPU's speed.

Both the PS4 and X1 suffer from fps drops when alot of action going on.... saying the PS4 cpu is the reason why its runs better is so fanboyish of you.... O it couldn't be because the gpu in PS4 is more then 30% faster. Both the PS4 and X1 have the same type of cpu your not going to get that type of a gain.... its coming from the faster gpu...

Of course you will be playing it on PC. Just like every other lem who got xboned and now hides behind the PC.

Funny isn't it.? He used a game that is 792p on xbox one and is not even lock 60FPS because Respawn wanted so bad to make CBOAT look bad that they gave up frames in order to hike the resolution 92p..

Is clear the game at 720p would have probably be close to be a lock 60 but the pressure was so big that they give in and that pressure i know came from MS..lol

And as bad as hermits to..

Hell we all know what Ubi did with watchdogs on PC.

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........

Ubisoft claimed that both were crap...hahaha

I call it and lemmings deny it any game with parity is been hold on PS4,as simple as that the PS4 has more resources period.

PC gamers never learn do they lmfao.

Can you get 4k for 400$ like PS4?

This is the kind of gen were in.

When the GPGPU kick into place? Now you sound like the Lemmings talking about their secret sauce DX12. You can't knock people for making those comments and then make them yourself.

And yes the Consoles CPU's may be enough to get out of the way of the GPU's, but they will never be strong enough to run A.I. intensive games at 60 fps. The PS4 should be 1080p at all times though. I'm not sure why it's missed the mark a few times now. Maybe Ubisoft needs to rework the AC engine. But the A.I. is controlling dozens, if not hundreds of NPC's at one time in the new AC title. The crowds in AC are not as "simple" as the ones we have seen in games such as Infamous. Ubisoft is trying to create a living world in their game and that takes some real processing power.

I think we can all agree that after Watch Dogs and now this, Ubisoft is in someone's pockets. (M$)

Considering the ps4 doesnt do 4k for games(not even remotely close) that´s a non issue.

I'll enjoy the game at 1080p/60FPS while consolites fight over that 900p/30FPS mess.

But really consolites, you bought a cheap as hell plastic box and now you're crying that your games look cheap as hell. The consoles will always be the lowest denominator.

No wonder PC is called "master race".

Console are even holding back consoles now XD

we are crying because of parity, which is different. If a console can do slightly better then let it do slightly better. Where was parity early last gen when the PS3 was under-performing? Sony most likely didn't have deep enough pockets to pay for it.

Its all about that advertising contract.

Says the guy who thinks xboxone doesn't currently use a low level API and doesn't accept specs that are already out there

@Evo_nine

Yeah, it seems like current gen consoles screwed PC with Watch Dogs. Ubisoft needs to stop pulling this stuff.

Now i hate xbots even more...and Ubisoft. Farcry 4 pre-order canceled, probably parity there as well...

Your PS4 can't even do 1080p!

How is MS causing it? Both consoles are cpu bound, ubi just kept the resolution the same not to give neither side gloating power....

"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.

"We were quickly bottlenecked by that and it was a bit frustrating, because we thought that this was going to be a tenfold improvement over everything AI-wise, and we realised it was going to be pretty hard. It's not the number of polygons that affect the framerate. We could be running at 100fps if it was just graphics, but because of AI, we're still limited to 30 frames per second."

Lol consoles.......... GTX970 SLI will have eat this game.

So they wanted to avoid one shitstorm by creating another one.

It will be very funny if it end up using only one thread out of the 12.

Βack on topic: It is obvious that microsoft bribe Ubisoft to do that

lol

That is just sad. Sad not because lolps4runningin900p but because Ubisoft is the laughing stock for all platforms. For pc they release the worst ports there is. For wiiu they think its better to ignore any games that isn't rate E. For ps4 it looks like they can't even make simplistic ass creed game run in 1080p. On xbone everything goes alright because 900p and below is the standard of the console. On ps360 they bitched n moaned they wanted new tech and when new tech is available they can't seem to run their games in 1080p when games like infamous ss can AND look better



Just noticed the "The GPUs are really powerful" hahaha what a bunch of comedians

"The GPUs are really powerful..."

Powerful compared to what, an Android phone?

The PS4 is clearly a more powerful system, so I cannot see why there would be parity. If they upgrade the PS4 to 1080p via a patch then I think that is confirmation that some shady practices are going down.

Ahahahah! Can't wait to get it on PC and play it at 1080p, 60+Fps.

And I'll Enjoy it at 2560x1440 just like every other AC on my PC....

@speedfreak48t5p: Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed. Thanks Lemmings.

You're welcome. That was my intention at every design meeting I sat in on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Definitely sounds like forced parity to me. The 30fps on both machines is all fair, but the PS4 would likely be able to push 1080p with everything else remaining constant with no problems.

firstly, i wasn't just talking about Cows, i was talking about lemmings as well, if i meant Cows i would have said Cows.

Secondly, this is the current Gen not last gen, just because developers didn't gimp games last gen doesn't mean they won't do it this gen, things change Tormentos.

Thirdly, the debate over resolutions and framerates on Consoles was nowhere near this Bad last gen, 'resolutiongate' didn't happen last gen.

and lastly, you are 100% Certain MS paid ubisoft? you are that sure with no evidence? Sorry, not buying it without tangible evidence simply because this is a gaming forum where everyone is anonymous and the Whole point in this board is to slag off the console you don't like and throw Dirt and conspiracy theories against the company that makes the console you don't like.

Developers talking in public vs Anonymous fanboys on an internet forum....who to trust.

I have never seen ANY tangible evidence that Either SONY or MS have paid developers, i am sure it does happen but without Evidence it is nothing more than an assumption NOT a definite as you guys seem to be claiming.

You know i don't do conspiracy theories mate i believe what i see and what is proven anything else is just supposition.

Like i said earlier, i feel sorry for Ps4 owners who are going to get a gimped game because of a small minority of Feckless fanboys that go over the top to the point of squabbling like little children about things like resolution and framerates.

Besides, where you not yourself complaining about the lack of Parity with consoles? you got your wish you should thank ubisoft.

Nice one mat, i think that debunks the theory that Money changed hands between Microsoft and Ubisoft to Gimp the Ps4 version but it also debunks what the Dev said about deliberatly gimping the Ps4 version.

Good job man, with one fell swoop you have proved virtually everyone in this thread wrong, including me (no hard feelings mate)

I think the debate should end here till we get more news on the subject quite frankly.

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Fixed it for you.

Console Gamer

PC Gamer

At least you have your pixels to keep you company. Lol