ASUS Rog looks dope, but what about the Ayaneo 2S...

Ayaneo 2S.

--AMD Ryzen 7 7840U

--AMD Radeon 780M

--16GB LPDDR5

--Screen size: 7-inch IPS

--Screen resolution: 1920 x 1200

--three-pipe cooler

--slicker than shit

--expensive as gold shit

"The APU that Ayaneo has chosen to use in the Ayaneo 2S is pretty powerful, to the point where we would say that it might run games even better than the Asus ROG Ally, this is due to the wattage at 15-28W. Should you be able to push the wattage further than 28W using the newly-revamped Ayaspace 2.0 software, you might be able to push the incredibly speedy chip even further, resulting in faster framerates all around."

"The AMD Ryzen 7 7840U is one of the many Ryzen 7040U Phoenix APUs which is designed for the 15-28W laptop and handheld market. This CPU carries 8 cores and 16 threads based on the Zen 4 core architecture and also packs a Radeon 780M iGPU that utilizes the RDNA 3 GPU architecture. It features 12 compute units for a total of 768 cores and those will run close to 2800 MHz frequency. Ayaneo 2S is revealed to feature the APU along with 16 GB of LPDDR5X memory running at 7500 Mbps speeds."

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/ayaneo-2s-reveal-shows-off-killer-specs-2126154/

https://wccftech.com/ayaneo-2s-deep-dive-amd-ryzen-7-7840u-apu-better-cooling-larger-battery-may-launch/

Specs are a little less shit, but still shit like all handhelds.

The steam deck drains its battery fast, but with resolutions of up to 1900x1200? Phew, you better be close to a power outlet.

I'm more interested in what Anbernic and Retroid do next, just emulate PS2 games is fine for me, I don't need Cyberpunk and Doom Eternal on the go with me :)

They claim the battery is "new and improved". Well, we'll see.

Doom Eternal is potato friendly. So, it would run well on these portable potatoes. Although, playing that game with analog sticks as opposed to a mouse....

Eh, look good to me. It'll look nice enough.

Rip Steam Deck

$700 vs $1300(?)

Amazing customer support vs nonexistent support

Being able to buy and preview in-store vs online

Yeah, price is nuts. Think I'd go with the ROG instead, but it's interesting seeing all these handhelds popping up.

Not quite. Not at all, really. All of this plays nicely into Valve's hands.

So you are expecting a RTX 4090 with 16 core cpu with 32GB of RAM in a hand held right?🤭

Nope. I am expecting shit and that is what it will deliver.

@Pedro: Lol, was gonna say the same thing. Dude is crazy negative.

Gaming devices don't get a free pass because they are portable, have power constraints, battery constraints, thermal constraints, etc.. They deliver severely compromised experiences. Full size consoles are bad enough. These portable potatoes don't deliver the quality I seek.

I was looking at the Ayaneo, but grabbed the Deck... I'm only using it for older or 2D RPGs and watching movies/TV shows when on vacay, so not too worried about power.

No one cares what you seek. These devices are not geared for you. A balanced person would be "This device isn't for me and move on." but instead you stated the bold and it is even more astounding that you think is makes sense.😂

It all makes sense when your focus is quality. If I am going to spend time gaming, I want to do it with no or as few compromises as possible. Why would I want to play on a puny little screen holding an uncomfortable device with shit tier performance when I can play on a powerful PC on a high refresh rate OLED monitor or big screen OLED with nice home theatre sound? There is no comparison in quality. I don't care that it is portable. I like to play games under the best conditions. I don't play games on the go, because when I am out, I am doing other things. I would rather wait until I can get home to play than suffer such a compromised gaming experience.

@BassMan: Dude, some people are on active military duty, and can only game on the go. Don't know why this is hard to imagine.

It's a shitty way to game regardless of circumstances.

You stated "Gaming devices don't get a free pass because they are portable, have power constraints, battery constraints, thermal constraints, etc..", so the physical constraints under the laws of physics doesn't play should not play a role in the evaluation of hardware. Do you realize how dumb such an assertion is?

If you don't like handhelds, that is fine. No one is forcing you to play or use these devices. If you were a balanced person you would as stated before be like "These devices are not geared towards me." and move on. Instead you are here making stupid comments with the expectation of 4090 performance in a handheld device because laws of physics is irrelevant. Your logic is akin to saying "I wouldn't play games until they are indiscernible from reality because anything less would be a compromise". BTW all games are compromised.😊

Also if you don't care about something, you don't go into a thread about the something you claim you don't care for to talk about it. That is caring. So, are you going to stop being a manchild now?🤭

In your opinion. Which is clearly not the opinion of the majority of gamers.

@Pedro: Dude is absolutely ridiculous. These are some top notch quality gaming products in the portable gaming sphere.

This is what happens when a person thinks the gaming world revolves around them.😂 He probably recommends a $5000 PC to grandma who just wants to browse the internet and check emails.

@Pedro: That would not surprise me. 😂

Again, no free passes. I don't give consoles a free pass because they are limited to $500 and various constraints. I didn't give the Switch or Steam Deck a free pass because they can be played on the go. I don't care what class of device it is. It will get lumped in with the consoles and powerful PCs. The focus is on quality. I am interested in the quality it can deliver and not excuses why it comes up short or how it will be used. This is System Wars and there are no consolation prizes.

@BassMan: What are you talking about “free pass”? This is quality tech in the portable gaming sphere. GTFOH 😅

The overall sphere is all that matters. Any sub sphere wins don't matter. They just get you a spot in the finals with the big boys. One winner with the rest walking away losers. LOL

@BassMan: Wrong.

@Archangel3371:

No one cares what your take on handheld is because you are not the target market. Only a fool would ignore the application of hardware and then incorrectly used this agnostic approach as a standard. You claim to wanting quality and not accepting excuses is downright stupid. You compromise your gaming experience on EVERY device you game on because gaming is development solely on compromises. So, are you done being a manchild?

Your deflections are funny. We are competing for overall quality where nothing else matters. Not the price, not application of hardware, etc..... just quality. These portable potatoes are shit quality compared to high end gaming PCs and even the PS5 or XSX. Manchild? Really? You know where you are posting right? How is posting in System Wars mature in any way?

Sounds like you are better off getting ROG Zephyrus Duo Laptop as it has 16 cores with an RTX 4090.

Buy a ROG Ally and plug in a mobile 4090 GPU. No more potato.

@davillain: Definitely the way to go for portable gaming. However, the laptop 4090 GPU is nowhere near as good as the desktop version. Nvidia should stop misleading gamers and re-brand them as the 'm' variant like they did in the past. 4090m would be much more appropriate.

@theam0g: Yeah, that definitely makes it less potato, but that CPU bottleneck... No bueno. I like where your head is at though. :)

First you don't understand the application of hardware and now you don't understand the meaning of the word deflection. You can claim quality until you head pops off but all you are yelling is your opinion and you already made it clear your opinion on handheld is useless. So, are you done being a manchild?

Personally think the Steam Deck is great for PS2-360 era games, especially the latter as it has the same base resolution.

And for those games with weak assets that I don't want to stretch out for 3440x1440 or 4K resolutions, the thing really shines with those games.

Also I wanna play Age of Empires II on there with the damn Xbox control scheme they released for consoles. I'd play age of empires everywhere!

I understand the application of the hardware just fine. The application of the hardware is irrelevant when we are judging what level of quality it can deliver against all gaming hardware. It is just an excuse. I don't care that consoles are only $500 with several limitations vs. a high end gaming PC. I don't care if you can keep a phone in your pocket or hold a handheld on a bus or whatever. That still does not change the fact that they can not deliver the same frame rates, resolutions, graphical fidelity and features as a high end PC.

All that matters is what hardware can deliver the best quality. When we are looking at things like Digital Foundry comparisons, we are not evaluating whether you can hold a device in your hand or not. The application is irrelevant. We are measuring the quality and which version is best. You deflecting to application of hardware or what compromises were made in development is hilarious.

You compromise your gaming experience on EVERY device you game on because gaming is development solely on compromises

Didn't even know this thing existed. Very tempted to call it overkill.

Also very tempted to buy it.

I get it, you don't understand the application of hardware but let us use your logic for a moment. Can you have quality handheld experience with a desktop PC?😎

You don't get shit. The application doesn't matter. Only what the specs are and the quality they deliver. I would never tolerate low frame rates on my PC and I wouldn't make an exception just to play something on a handheld. If someone wants to play games on handheld devices, that is fine, but they don't really care about quality. It is no different than all the casuals that play games on their phones. Mobile gaming is shit for the most part. Handheld gaming systems are not much better. At the end of the day, they all play games and we are judging how well they can do that.

God I hope scalpers aren't waiting on the Best Buy site right now...

Cool opinion. Now can you have quality handheld experience with a desktop PC?😎

This is a thread about specs on system wars. Everything I have mentioned is valid. If you don't like it, too bad. I am done wasting time with you.

You were doing fine until this.

This thread is about handhelds, you know the thing you don't like.😂

lol handhelds

Happy to see all the handheld love... Unfortunately for some of the high end offerings they lack a more casual price point and they just don't have the support. Still, each one is a step in the right direction.

Really the only big issue with these things right now is the battery life.

@nod_calypse: "but it's interesting seeing all these handhelds popping up."

You think Sony should re-enter the handheld scene?

You didn't ask me but...yes, they should.

If there's a market for them, why wouldn't they leverage their brand power to continue to expand their profits? They almost have a fiduciary duty to do so in a capitalistic organization of the economy. Plus the PSP and Vita were beloved by their respective communities.

The product would not be for me as mobile gaming isn't for me (it's extremely rare for me to not be driving myself or walking if I'm on the go, and if I'm at home...why the hell would I game on a mobile device and not my consoles or liquid-cooled 4090 PC?) but for those who really enjoy mobile gaming would love to see another Sony handheld. The Last of Us Part 3 playable at 60fps on a mobile device would blow minds and is realistic given the potency of the latest APUs.