At this rate... MGS4 will flop

MGS4 will flop- 8.5

Final Fanasy will flop- 8.5

Grand turismo will flop- 8.0

and so on, and so on...

Even if these games scored perfect 10's on every other gaming site, will it even matter on GS? They will more than likely find something, anything to knock the game down, no matter how trivial.

GameSpot is really giving the PS3 a hard way to go on this site. If you are a neutral gamer without any biasness, you can't help but sense a bad vibe coming from GS towards the PS3.

It's undeniable.

Even if you're a 360 supporter, I think that you too can probably sense the disadvantage the PS3 has here.

What gets me is how blatent it is. It's like a witch hunt.

I really dont want this to continue on to next year, i had hope that GS had mended its ways with the Halo 3 review but no... i think gamespot needs to re-evaluate its standards and make them more in line with the mainstream, i personally think they are getting a bit jaded and expecting way too much.

so no that would suck if all hyped games like MGS4, GTA4 flop it would seriously damage Gamespot's image imo.

Gamespot doesn't have much credability anymore. There are quite a few fanboys out there who will scream "damage control!!!11", but even the biggest idiot is able to tell that Gamespot is so deep in Microsoft's pockets it's not even funny.Zeke129

[QUOTE="Zeke129"]Gamespot doesn't have much credability anymore. There are quite a few fanboys out there who will scream "damage control!!!11", but even the biggest idiot is able to tell that Gamespot is so deep in Microsoft's pockets it's not even funny.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I want people to realize Gamespot is receiving monetary contributions from Microsoft. Check my link. The fact remains that they have flopped many more Sony and Nintendo games than Microsoft ones.

MGS4 will flop- 8.5

Final Fanasy will flop- 8.5

Grand turismo will flop- 8.0

and so on, and so on...

Even if these games scored perfect 10's on every other gaming site, will it even matter on GS? They will more than likely find something, anything to knock the game down, no matter how trivial.

GameSpot is really giving the PS3 a hard way to go on this site. If you are a neutral gamer without any biasness, you can't help but sense a bad vibe coming from GS towards the PS3.

It's undeniable.

Even if you're a 360 supporter, I think that you too can probably sense the disadvantage the PS3 has here.

What gets me is how blatent it is. It's like a witch hunt.

knufsed

As far as I know, a AA score is still a great score, which means it deserves to be played by the masses. If all games scored AAA then the AAA score wouldn't seem as valuable anymore.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Zeke129"]Gamespot doesn't have much credability anymore. There are quite a few fanboys out there who will scream "damage control!!!11", but even the biggest idiot is able to tell that Gamespot is so deep in Microsoft's pockets it's not even funny.Zeke129

I want people to realize Gamespot is receiving monetary contributions from Microsoft. Check my link. The fact remains that they have flopped many more Sony and Nintendo games than Microsoft ones.

You weren't here last generation or during the 360 launch were you?

There seems to be some confusion about the difference between hype thread and review scores. 8 and 8.5 in the Gamespot review criteria means a very good game (or something to that effect). A hype thread is something used to rub in other people's face because they didn't guess what number range the GS score would fall into correctly.JiveT

Expansion packs still count though JiveT, get over it buddy :P

You weren't here last generation or during the 360 launch were you?

TyrantDragon55

I sure was. Gamespot (And C|Net in general) have gone downhill since they partnered with Microsoft.

Dear Hardcore Lems, and or PS3 haters;

There comes a time when you just have to put away the pitch forks and torches and say to yourselves;

"Damn man, this just aint right."

Even if you just say it to yourselves in private.

I know that you are over-joyed about the competition being stomped and all, but damn, c'mon now.

I know that even you guys have some dignity.

Stop defending the undefendable.

the IGN au guys tryed their best to flop Crysis, it was pathetic 7.5.... now modded to 8.3. Most of it waswhining about system requirements, which poeple with worse rigs got better performance than that reviewer.

Galaxy and Crysis didn't flop, i don't think theres much problem.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

You weren't here last generation or during the 360 launch were you?

Zeke129

I sure was. Gamespot (And C|Net in general) have gone downhill since they partnered with Microsoft.

Not really, if you look at the GS scores for most of these flopped PS3 games they're usually inline with the Gamerankings average (if not they're about a point or two off). Not to mention the fact that the PS3 actually has more AAA titles on here than it does on gamerankings. They also just hosted a Resistance: Fall of Man tournament, and I've seen pletny of ads for PS3 titles on this site. Where is this bias that you speak of?

Fanboys, some at least, get too involved in these scores.

Gamespot scores are used as the standard here for the sake of arguments, but nobody should ever want a game less b/c of what one review says.

Mass Effect still has a 93% on gamerankings and IGN just gave it a 9.4 and says it's another Bioware masterpiece.

Assassin's Creed got a 9, and almost anyone will probably have WAY more fun with Mass Effect than they ever could with a glitchy mess like Assassin's Creed.

If you wanna make silly arguments, then go by gamespot scores, but if you are going by actual quality, then gamespot is only one site that gets the score wrong just as often as any other site.

Look at Zelda TP and Metroid 3, those games gave most of the public a huge and wonderful experience, but neither game got AAA on gamespot. 95% would probably say gamespot f'd those scores up in a huge way. It's only one review.

[QUOTE="knufsed"]

MGS4 will flop- 8.5

Final Fanasy will flop- 8.5

Grand turismo will flop- 8.0

and so on, and so on...

Even if these games scored perfect 10's on every other gaming site, will it even matter on GS? They will more than likely find something, anything to knock the game down, no matter how trivial.

GameSpot is really giving the PS3 a hard way to go on this site. If you are a neutral gamer without any biasness, you can't help but sense a bad vibe coming from GS towards the PS3.

It's undeniable.

Even if you're a 360 supporter, I think that you too can probably sense the disadvantage the PS3 has here.

What gets me is how blatent it is. It's like a witch hunt.

Sparticus247

As far as I know, a AA score is still a great score, which means it deserves to be played by the masses. If all games scored AAA then the AAA score wouldn't seem as valuable anymore.

The issue is that Uncharted and Mass Effect ARE AAA games. They're amazing games. I haven't played ME, but Uncharted I know is a top-tier game.

I can say with great confidence that MGS4 could never be flopped on the grounds of technical glithces in the game (like ME).MGS games are so polished, they barely have any bugs in them at the time of release. You'd have to be an obsessive to identify glitches in MGS.

MGS4 would have to flop purely on the merits of it's intendend gameplay.

I really dont want this to continue on to next year, i had hope that GS had mended its ways with the Halo 3 review but no... i think gamespot needs to re-evaluate its standards and make them more in line with the mainstream, i personally think they are getting a bit jaded and expecting way too much.

so no that would suck if all hyped games like MGS4, GTA4 flop it would seriously damage Gamespot's image imo.

Tactis

Gamespot is losing a lot of credibility these days if you read other forums. Lots of people just say, don't bother reading their reviews if you own a PS3.

I think they are marking too hard and forgetting what the purpose of a game is.

Having said that, that isn't gamespots major problem. Their main problem is the disparity between the way 360 games and PS3 games are rated.

I could accept an 8.0 at GS if they didn't rate other games like Halo3 a 9.5, lol.

Gamespot doesn't have much credability anymore. There are quite a few fanboys out there who will scream "damage control!!!11", but even the biggest idiot is able to tell that Gamespot is so deep in Microsoft's pockets it's not even funny.Zeke129

Yeah, I bet the reviewers kind of have their hands tied when they give reviews. A site like gamespot is large and little banners won't cover its running costs. I'm guessing donations from MS are having an influence on certain reviews.

I mean sure, the reviewer probably has ultimate control but I'm sure they would be looking at the money they get from MS and thinking...if I give this game a 4.0, MS might not keep being a sponsor.

And it's not just GS either, I bet all of the major sites like IGN and Gametrailers etc all are put under this similar kind of pressure. I could be talking out of my ass but I don't think this is too far from the truth.

Either that, or they just don't like PS3 that much.

at this point if jesus christ himself came to earth to make a game GS would flop it because it was too perfect.

"well the graphics are so good it looks like we were playing real life. which makes us uncomforatable"

8.5/10

at this point if jesus christ himself came to earth to make a game GS would flop it because it was too perfect.

"well the graphics are so good it looks like we were playing real life. which makes us uncomforatable"

8.5/10

hustler_151

ha ha ha :lol:!

for sure!

i don't think only 8 hours long, no multiplayer, decent story at best and frusterating platforming are dumb reasons for the game not to get an AAAmastershake575

Well thats the thing. That is the justification given. Fair enough.

But do we agree that it is only 8hrs long and that is a problem? Do we agree that the story sux and that the platforming is frustrating?

I don't know coz I haven't got the full game but based on the demo, I haven't had that much fun in a game in a long time.

I must say one thing about GS though. Even though I disagree with their score on this game--their score isn't 'out of the ball park' in comparison to the majority of other review sites. an 8/10 is just a little under the meta critic score.

[QUOTE="Zeke129"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

You weren't here last generation or during the 360 launch were you?

TyrantDragon55

I sure was. Gamespot (And C|Net in general) have gone downhill since they partnered with Microsoft.

Not really, if you look at the GS scores for most of these flopped PS3 games they're usually inline with the Gamerankings average (if not they're about a point or two off). Not to mention the fact that the PS3 actually has more AAA titles on here than it does on gamerankings. They also just hosted a Resistance: Fall of Man tournament, and I've seen pletny of ads for PS3 titles on this site. Where is this bias that you speak of?

Don't look at the 'average', look at the 'mode'. In maths, the mode is the 'most frequent score'. So look at which score was given out the most frequently and you'll get a good indication for what a game is worth. The average is very deceiving sometimes because all it takes is a few very low scores to kill an average.

MGS4 will flop- 8.5

Final Fanasy will flop- 8.5

Grand turismo will flop- 8.0

and so on, and so on...

Even if these games scored perfect 10's on every other gaming site, will it even matter on GS? They will more than likely find something, anything to knock the game down, no matter how trivial.

GameSpot is really giving the PS3 a hard way to go on this site. If you are a neutral gamer without any biasness, you can't help but sense a bad vibe coming from GS towards the PS3.

It's undeniable.

Even if you're a 360 supporter, I think that you too can probably sense the disadvantage the PS3 has here.

What gets me is how blatent it is. It's like a witch hunt.

knufsed

ive realized that gamespot is absoulutely in love with games you can get online with and play against other people. it just seems that way to me. gamespot love de online! what happend to good old single player fun? some games shouldnt have online and they shouldnt be penalized for not having online play.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Zeke129"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

You weren't here last generation or during the 360 launch were you?

wisdomWarrior

I sure was. Gamespot (And C|Net in general) have gone downhill since they partnered with Microsoft.

Not really, if you look at the GS scores for most of these flopped PS3 games they're usually inline with the Gamerankings average (if not they're about a point or two off). Not to mention the fact that the PS3 actually has more AAA titles on here than it does on gamerankings. They also just hosted a Resistance: Fall of Man tournament, and I've seen pletny of ads for PS3 titles on this site. Where is this bias that you speak of?

Don't look at the 'average', look at the 'mode'. In maths, the mode is the 'most frequent score'. So look at which score was given out the most frequently and you'll get a good indication for what a game is worth. The average is very deceiving sometimes because all it takes is a few very low scores to kill an average.

The thing about that is, there are many sites out there that hand out high scores to just about anything (play magazine for example) that for some reason are considered credible on GameRankings. Do you really think Blue Dragon is an 8.0+ game?

MGS4 will flop- 8.5

Final Fanasy will flop- 8.5

Grand turismo will flop- 8.0

and so on, and so on...

Even if these games scored perfect 10's on every other gaming site, will it even matter on GS? They will more than likely find something, anything to knock the game down, no matter how trivial.

GameSpot is really giving the PS3 a hard way to go on this site. If you are a neutral gamer without any biasness, you can't help but sense a bad vibe coming from GS towards the PS3.

It's undeniable.

Even if you're a 360 supporter, I think that you too can probably sense the disadvantage the PS3 has here.

What gets me is how blatent it is. It's like a witch hunt.

knufsed

Alot of those games look good, AAA matieral.

But, I think when people make geniuenly great games, like say,... i dunno, Super Mario Galaxy! than it will get the score it deserves.

Dear Hardcore Lems, and or PS3 haters;

There comes a time when you just have to put away the pitch forks and torches and say to yourselves;

"Damn man, this just aint right."

Even if you just say it to yourselves in private.

I know that you are over-joyed about the competition being stomped and all, but damn, c'mon now.

I know that even you guys have some dignity.

Stop defending the undefendable.

knufsed

[QUOTE="Zeke129"]Gamespot doesn't have much credability anymore. There are quite a few fanboys out there who will scream "damage control!!!11", but even the biggest idiot is able to tell that Gamespot is so deep in Microsoft's pockets it's not even funny.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I saw that, the score said 8 but the actuall review made the game seem great, as if they put the wrong score with the review. I used o think that maybe GS tryed to be realistic, but they said the story was shallow! Now I am not a fanboy, I have a ps3/360/wii and I played halo 3, the game was great but its story was not that good, why did uncharted get marked down if halo 3 did not?

GS is bent on sonys destruction. dunno why, but they are...

you can say "AA is a great score", but then why hasn't halo 3 got AA instead of a 9.5, I mean, they nitpicked there too, saying the AI was very bad at driving (it was) and the replay editor was a piece of crap, but they didn't deduct points. i'm not a cow and therefore I don't care about uncharted or R&C, but the fact that neither CoD4 or ME have outscored halo despite being better games in many ways really annoys me. Ah well, there's always rock band i guess.Doc_smock