Attention PC gamers, I never thought that I'd say this but.....I want a WRPG

Everyone has their favorite genres, and for me that genre was always the JRPG. A genre that most Westerners misunderstand as of being hyper-active with cutscenes *even though most JRPG's don't have that many cutscenes if any at all, you can thank Square-Enix for that* or that they have "shallow" depth :roll: *even though they contain the most complex battle systems around. However there's always been a genre that intrested me. That's right the WRPG. It seems totally opposite from the games I like to play. My first taste was the battle system in FFXII, it resembled KOTOR as some say. I presonally hated the combat system as it totally took all the skill away from the game. Anyway I decided to ignore that, soI decided to give it a try with a game known as "Oblivion". Now this game was fun......for about 2 days then I got bored to death. However, even though it is credited to being "the greatest RPG of all-time" by reviewers, many fans say that it was extremely inferior to Morrowwind. So I'm deciding to give this genre another go. My question to all of you *PC Gamers only*  is what is the best WRPG out there. One to say if I tried this I've tried the best. One to get me an understanding of the genre.

P.S. I'm also planning on purchasing Deus Ex for $10 on STEAM, should I do it? 

If you have never played Fallout 1 or 2. Get them. NOW.

I also recommend Jade Empire for PC. Superior version. 

If you have never played Fallout 1 or 2. Get them. NOW.

 

I also recommend Jade Empire for PC. Superior version.

TekkenMaster606

although it helps to have played the first one.

Not to those saying "fallout" aren't those games a little old. I want to play something that's the standard, I mean something that's what PC WRPG's are now. You know what I mean?Dencore

WRPG's are very diverse.There is no "standard". 

Not to those saying "fallout" aren't those games a little old. I want to play something that's the standard, I mean something that's what PC WRPG's are now. You know what I mean?Dencore

Not to those saying "fallout" aren't those games a little old. I want to play something that's the standard, I mean something that's what PC WRPG's are now. You know what I mean?Dencore

Well, if you want something more recent, then go with the other two I suggested. There are those who love and hate Jade Empire, but everyone I know, even those who play games every once in a while, adore KOTOR. Seriously, one of the best gaming experiences I've had in my lifetime. Don't rule out other people's suggestions, but do NOT miss KOTOR. 

Neverwinter Knights 2MIYAMOTOnext007

i thought it was Neverwinter Nights 2? not Knights 

Note to those saying "fallout" aren't those games a little old. I want to play something that's the standard, I mean something that's what PC WRPG's are now. You know what I mean?Dencore

they've stood the test of time.

for the love of god yes, get deus ex (deus ex 1 mind....deus ex 2 was a bit meh). DE1 is, imho, the best game ever made....ever. its not an rpg like KOTR.....its fairly different. it was one fo the first games to successfully mix genres such as RPG and FPS. it has a great story, great characters and is really really immersive. it starts out badly but once u enter unatco headquarters u know that this game is something quite special (well i did anyway).

another game u might be interested in is anachranox. its a bit closer to JRPGs and is bloddy hilarious. 

Vampire:Bloodlines,with all the patches installed.It's supreme.lionhunter

Playing it right now, absolute must have game... 

Also I heard that FFXII battles system was like KOTOR, but I HATED the battle system, so I don't think I'll be very fond of KOTOR. :(Dencore

...I honestly found them nothing alike. KOTOR's battle system looks realtime, but it is a variant of turn-based combat. You have the option to halt time after every attack, ala the way almost every single JRPG has done, or use the 'real-time' combat, which keeps the combat more cinematic and fluid. 

[QUOTE="Dencore"]Also I heard that FFXII battles system was like KOTOR, but I HATED the battle system, so I don't think I'll be very fond of KOTOR. :(Verge_6

...I honestly found them nothing alike. KOTOR's battle system looks realtime, but it is a variant of turn-based combat. You have the option to halt time after every attack, ala the way almost every single JRPG has done, or use the 'real-time' combat, which keeps the combat more cinematic and fluid.

So those saying the two are alike are fanboys? Hmm not surpirsed. 

Also I heard that FFXII battles system was like KOTOR, but I HATED the battle system, so I don't think I'll be very fond of KOTOR. :(Dencore

has a lot of memorable characters and the story is freaking good. I wouldnt be surprised if they ever made a movie based on this game. I cant say much about KOTOR 2, but seems like alot of ppl disagree with me on this one. Jade empire is made by the same ppl, well the 1st one and it is similar to KOTOR except battle system is real time. Sometimes i wish KOTOR had the Jade empire battle system.

WRPGs are probably the most diverse Genre...Acenso

That's because it's a niche genre. And a niche genre that sells well infact. It's a genre that's dedicated soley to the hardcore. So I guess that's why there is no standard.

Also is Hellgate: London an MMO or  a single player WRPG? 

Planescape: Torment

Baldurs Gate 1 & 2

KOTOR 1 & 2

Diablo Series

Fable (kinda short, but awesome game)

Deus Ex Series

I'd also recommend trying out some 4X strategy games. Civilization IV and Galactic Empires II are great, great games. TekkenMaster606

Ugh I don't like strategy games sorry. :( 

How well does Deus Ex stand out today?Dencore

great...In some ways....it has similariities to STALKER....or so I hear. 

How well does Deus Ex stand out today?Dencore

Planescape: Torment

Baldurs Gate 1 & 2

KOTOR 1 & 2

Diablo Series

Fable (kinda short, but awesome game)

Deus Ex Series

hellraiser6669

Add Fallout 1-2, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Neverwinter Nights 1-2 to that list and you've got yourself a whole year of entertainment.

[QUOTE="Dencore"]How well does Deus Ex stand out today?smokeydabear076

It's one of the best games ever, if not THE best game. If you're that worried about graphics, there's a HD project that's almost finished. Try it out. 

If you have never played Fallout 1 or 2. Get them. NOW.

 

I also recommend Jade Empire for PC. Superior version.

TekkenMaster606

Listen to this wise mage. GET FALLOUT NOW! 

Get Dues Ex, but not on steam. I got it on steam only to find out steam had been hacked and every ones credit card details were online to hackers, thus £600 pound of mine goes missing (I got it back, the bank knew there was a problem, a tad fishy that I drew out money in my name in maylasia and England at the same time, the guy has been nicked.)

Don't risk buying anything off steam, other people were not as lucky. 

Get Guild Wars, its an MMO without monthly fees.muscleserge

Guild Wars is not a MMO.

Gah, when will people finally realize this? 

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]Get Guild Wars, its an MMO without monthly fees.Redmoonxl2

Guild Wars is not a MMO.

Gah, when will people finally realize this?

When people realize Oblivion is more action-adventure than RPG AKA Never. 

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'd also recommend trying out some 4X strategy games. Civilization IV and Galactic Empires II are great, great games. Dencore

Ugh I don't like strategy games sorry. :(

I would still try Civ. 4 at least....I dont really like Strategy games that much either....(though Im alright with some RTS's) and I have to admit civ. 4 was easily the most addictive game I had ever played. 

Get Dues Ex, but not on steam. I got it on steam only to find out steam had been hacked and every ones credit card details were online to hackers, thus £600 pound of mine goes missing (I got it back, the bank knew there was a problem, a tad fishy that I drew out money in my name in maylasia and England at the same time, the guy has been nicked.)

 

Don't risk buying anything off steam, other people were not as lucky.

rpg9000owner

I've never had a problem with STEAM, in fact I would reccomend it to anyone. For your information, Valve doesn't keep people's Credit cards on file, hence why you have to give it to them everytime you make a transaction, thus making it impossible for anyone to capture a database. The cards stolen and financial information were for their Cafe program they have , which they keep and store information,  and not end users.  

[QUOTE="rpg9000owner"]

Get Dues Ex, but not on steam. I got it on steam only to find out steam had been hacked and every ones credit card details were online to hackers, thus £600 pound of mine goes missing (I got it back, the bank knew there was a problem, a tad fishy that I drew out money in my name in maylasia and England at the same time, the guy has been nicked.)

 

Don't risk buying anything off steam, other people were not as lucky.

mismajor99

I've never had a problem with STEAM, in fact I would reccomend it to anyone. For your information, Valve doesn't keep people's Credit cards on file, hence why you have to give it to them everytime you make a transaction, thus making it impossible for anyone to capture a database. The cards stolen and financial information were for their Cafe program they have , which they keep and store information, and not end users.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5291&Itemid=2

It just seemed ironic that this happend the exact same time I was victim to credit card fraud.  

although it helps to have played the first one.

CaseyWegner

I just downloaded "Deus Ex" I'm going to try it out now.

Wish me luck!

:)

Also is Hellgate: London an MMO? 

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'd also recommend trying out some 4X strategy games. Civilization IV and Galactic Empires II are great, great games. cobrax75

Ugh I don't like strategy games sorry. :(

I would still try Civ. 4 at least....I dont really like Strategy games that much either....(though Im alright with some RTS's) and I have to admit civ. 4 was easily the most addictive game I had ever played.

Yeah, and the man behind Civilization IV is now working on SPORE. GOTY confirmed.  

WTF is this stuff. When I play Deus Ex theres a bug where everything fastforwards!!!!Dencore