Attn,COWS I can dis-proove your LOGIC. with linked PROOF Come defend your LOGIC.

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#1 Fuzzy_Munch
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Ok i want to establish some right here and now.

We all know Cows will say GOW is the bets blah blah blah. And yes it's a great game.

And we all know Cows use this game as a flagship title.Yes we agree on this correct?

Ok we also know that NG is MS flagship title for this kind of game. And we all know most if not all Cows have agreed that NG is a great game if not better then GOW. And more so with Cows adopting much love for NG with Sigma on PS3. And agreed it's great once they got it on the PS3.

Ok and lastly we all know that Cows want diversity in there games and this translates to most of them truly enjoy games with RPG elements weathers it's a full RPG of just a game with RPG in it. We all know that Cows crave these kind of games.

Ok here is the KICKER. Now that this is said. I will present you what you would think be a Cows DREAM COME TRUE for a game. I mean it's being said to be much like GOW and NG and with RPG. So you would naturally think Cows would have to agree that this has got to be or at least have the potential to be one amazing game. Yet they seem to say this game looks to be TRASH. Now how can this be chalked up as trash so easily by Cows. I mean are they saying GOW and NG and RPG are TRASH now?:roll:

Watch and enjoy and please come back and explain this logic because i think this thread will go either completely SILENT because the Cows Will run from the truth. Or they will go into the much damage spin control/damage control i mean after all Sony has trained them to be experts in this field.

And this is not a war thread this is just a please explain your logic thread because i truly do not think that logic can be explained on this on.

Just listen how ecstatic the developer is and how much he relates it to these other well know AAA games.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26497.html?type=wmv

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#2 Thompsonwhore
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I didn't really bother to read your whole post. What I gathered is that Too Human is a game that everyone with a PS3 should want and therefore we're all just a bunch of hypocrites.

How spot on am I?

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figured it was too human. you should put that in OP.

I am looking forward to checking this game out.

When is it actually due? Is there a release date? Or just Q? 2008?

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#4 nicenator
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I like RPGs, and i like Beat em ups, it doesnt mean i want both in the same game.

Fanboys are always going to put down games whether they look good or not. Sheep constantly bashany platformer that isnt marioand Lemmings go on and on about how Uncharted will flop because its jsut a Gears rip off, even though they themselveslove Gears.

Youve just gone against fanboy logic, not cow logic specifically.

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#5 Vandalvideo
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Wait...what?
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Anyway, the interview was pretty decent. You should've just posted some of the stuff he said instead of making it a fanboy rant.

Wait...what?Vandalvideo

Your consolite link is both mean and hilarious.

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I like RPGs, and i like Beat em ups, it doesnt mean i want both in the same game.

Fanboys are always going to put down games whether they look good or not. Sheep constantly bashany platformer that isnt marioand Lemmings go on and on about how Uncharted will flop because its jsut a Gears rip off, even though they themselveslove Gears.

Youve just gone against fanboy logic, not cow logic specifically.

nicenator

Not me i'm a diehard 360 gamer. But i am tossed between Uncharted and Mass effect on Nov,20th. And i just preorderd R&C yesterday.

So go figure that one.

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I like seafood and I like nachos.You aren't disproving my "logic" with linked "proof" if you find somebody who likes squid flavoured doritos.

I really think you need to look up the words "logic" and "proof" in the dictionary, then come back and see why your thread fails.

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#9 nicenator
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If you're considering games on other platforms then you arent a fanboy, die-hard 360 user or not.

Congrats :)

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Just listen how ecstatic the developer is and how much he relates it to these other well know AAA games.

A dev that is exited about is own game and compares it to other great ones.

That's a first for me, usually they are like "meh the game I made is boring and weaker than the others".

That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

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I like seafood and I like nachos.You aren't disproving my "logic" with linked "proof" if you find somebody who likes squid flavoured doritos.

I really think you need to look up the words "logic" and "proof" in the dictionary, then come back and see why your thread fails.

ZIMdoom

Right i see but when they mix a game like Dues Ex on PC with FPS and RPG and it is one of the best games EVER. So your spin on logic FAILS

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That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

DarkCloud79
That sounds perfect. Slightly easier battle + Diablo style trees and item mongering + online coop on my 360 = Fantastic Win.
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#13 Fuzzy_Munch
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If you're considering games on other platforms then you arent a fanboy, die-hard 360 user or not.

Congrats :)

nicenator

No it's more like you are not a real GAMER if you don't have both a 360 and a PS3.

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[QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]

That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

Jandurin
That sounds perfect. Slightly easier battle + Diablo style trees and item mongering + online coop on my 360 = Fantastic Win.

Slightly easier? The battles are going to be miles easier. I mean the entire battle system is done on the right analog stick. That seems a little........ionno I reserve judgement.
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[QUOTE="nicenator"]

If you're considering games on other platforms then you arent a fanboy, die-hard 360 user or not.

Congrats :)

Fuzzy_Munch

No it's more like you are not a real GAMER if you don't have both a 360 and a PS3.

lol. You aren't areal gamer if you don't have a Wii.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]

That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

Vandalvideo

That sounds perfect. Slightly easier battle + Diablo style trees and item mongering + online coop on my 360 = Fantastic Win.

Slightly easier? The battles are going to be miles easier. I mean the entire battle system is done on the right analog stick. That seems a little........ionno I reserve judgement.

There are 8 directions on the right analog stick + jumping + left analog stick.

Anyhoo, I'm curious as to whether it works. I've never played NG or DMC or GoW so I dunno if those games are really as hard as people claim.

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#17 Thompsonwhore
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Right i see but when they mix a game like Dues Ex on PC with FPS and RPG and it is one of the best games EVER. So your spin on logic FAILSFuzzy_Munch

What exactly is the purpose of this thread? You're saying that all PS3 owners should be looking forward to Too Human because they apparently all like Action games and all want diversity in those action games.

All you're doing is making assumptions about what people want.

Not only that, but Too Human isn't even a true to form action game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you use the right analog stick to attack? That's not exactly pulling off combos, evading and blocking like in Ninja Gaiden or God of War.

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Not only that, but Too Human isn't even a true to form action game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you use the right analog stick to attack? That's not exactly pulling off combos, evading and blocking like in Ninja Gaiden or God of War. Thompsonwhore
Right stick to attack, not to defend or evade or whatever.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]

That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

Jandurin

That sounds perfect. Slightly easier battle + Diablo style trees and item mongering + online coop on my 360 = Fantastic Win.

Slightly easier? The battles are going to be miles easier. I mean the entire battle system is done on the right analog stick. That seems a little........ionno I reserve judgement.

There are 8 directions on the right analog stick + jumping + left analog stick.

Anyhoo, I'm curious as to whether it works. I've never played NG or DMC or GoW so I dunno if those games are really as hard as people claim.

Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison.

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Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison. Thompsonwhore
But, is it fun? Button mashers get boring. I've played Onimusha and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. Is there more than just killing the next enemy to drag you along?
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#21 deviates1080
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Unless it excels in both the RPG and the action areas of the game, then the game won't do that well. Unless that is reviewers decide that it's okay to over-rate something just because it contains different genres delivered in an average fashion. *cough* GTA *cough*
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[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison. Jandurin
But, is it fun? Button mashers get boring. I've played Onimusha and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. Is there more than just killing the next enemy to drag you along?

Its fun until it makes you want to rip your hair our and throw the controller at your pet. All the combos and weapons add a bunch of depth.
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To me, games like GoW and NG are boring. I don't know why Too Human would be any different.
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To me, games like GoW and NG are boring. I don't know why Too Human would be any different.Wasdie
Diablo-like cooperative gameplay with a 100% accurate (not considering Sci-Fi bits) Nordic mythological basis?
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]To me, games like GoW and NG are boring. I don't know why Too Human would be any different.Jandurin
Diablo-like cooperative gameplay with a 100% accurate (not considering Sci-Fi bits) Nordic mythological basis?

Actually they got the name of the [Ulfhednar] wrong, but thats just being too specific.
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What logic is being disproved? And why would that link help in any way, unless we can take anything any developer says as fact... Goofy topic.
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#27 Fuzzy_Munch
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To me, games like GoW and NG are boring. I don't know why Too Human would be any different.Wasdie

Becuase it's got RPG in it to to mix things up and not keep you just mindlesly enemy killing. Oh and also some Coop in it to so yeah it sounds pretty sweet you would think.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]To me, games like GoW and NG are boring. I don't know why Too Human would be any different.Vandalvideo
Diablo-like cooperative gameplay with a 100% accurate (not considering Sci-Fi bits) Nordic mythological basis?

Actually they got the name of the [Ulfhednar] wrong, but thats just being too specific.

:lol: Too specific indeed.
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:lol: Too specific indeed.Jandurin
Oh and one more, Odin isn't the Berserker diety, Modi is. *Shrug* Oh well, Norse Mythology 101 :o
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What logic is being disproved? And why would that link help in any way, unless we can take anything any developer says as fact... Goofy topic.Ibacai

Because Cows claim they love RPG's and GOW games. So you put these to together in some form and i know Cows are in heaven in a game like this. This is why they buy PS systems for diversive games like this. but now all the sudden game that is on another system and this gameplay and diversity all the sudden becomes TRASH:roll:

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#31 Fuzzy_Munch
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Wait i just thought of something.

Cows loved Champions Of Norwrath games they had beatem up hack and slash and RPG so what gives you guys don't like these kind of games now?:roll:

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#32 CreepyBacon
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It's hilerious that this topic had Logic in the title twice yet i couldn't understand what the hell the first post was talking about. XD

If it wasn't for the video i'd be completly lost.

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From almost the earliest of times hearing the Too Human concept; I loved what S.K. was aiming for and to me these days I like to say it's a sorta Gears meets Phantasy Star Online and that just hypes the heck outta me, 4 player online co-op with character & weapon customization and leveling up! :)
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Ok i want to establish some right here and now.

We all know Cows will say GOW is the bets blah blah blah. And yes it's a great game.

And we all know Cows use this game as a flagship title.Yes we agree on this correct?

Ok we also know that NG is MS flagship title for this kind of game. And we all know most if not all Cows have agreed that NG is a great game if not better then GOW. And more so with Cows adopting much love for NG with Sigma on PS3. And agreed it's great once they got it on the PS3.

Ok and lastly we all know that Cows want diversity in there games and this translates to most of them truly enjoy games with RPG elements weathers it's a full RPG of just a game with RPG in it. We all know that Cows crave these kind of games.

Ok here is the KICKER. Now that this is said. I will present you what you would think be a Cows DREAM COME TRUE for a game. I mean it's being said to be much like GOW and NG and with RPG. So you would naturally think Cows would have to agree that this has got to be or at least have the potential to be one amazing game. Yet they seem to say this game looks to be TRASH. Now how can this be chalked up as trash so easily by Cows. I mean are they saying GOW and NG and RPG are TRASH now?:roll:

Watch and enjoy and please come back and explain this logic because i think this thread will go either completely SILENT because the Cows Will run from the truth. Or they will go into the much damage spin control/damage control i mean after all Sony has trained them to be experts in this field.

And this is not a war thread this is just a please explain your logic thread because i truly do not think that logic can be explained on this on.

Just listen how ecstatic the developer is and how much he relates it to these other well know AAA games.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26497.html?type=wmv

Fuzzy_Munch

I'm not sure what game are you talking about.....Too Human?? It looks to be a great game but I didn't read to much up on it to know how it really is.

If you talking about NG2, than that's a great game too!! I would love to see those on the PS3!!

I don't know who trashed those games but they both look to be great to me!

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Dude, no one loved Champions of Norrath or Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance (II). Those games were so mindless.

Though, I did beat them. heh

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]What logic is being disproved? And why would that link help in any way, unless we can take anything any developer says as fact... Goofy topic.Fuzzy_Munch

Because Cows claim they love RPG's and GOW games. So you put these to together in some form and i know Cows are in heaven in a game like this. This is why they buy PS systems for diversive games like this. but now all the sudden game that is on another system and this gameplay and diversity all the sudden becomes TRASH:roll:

I love Ramen and Oreos but you don't see me throwing those together for a meal. Now while that is an extreme and not fair you can't just take two things some cows (don't make a blanket generalization) love and put them together expecting super amounts of hype. It's not the basis for Too Human that I personally don't like it's the gameplay I've seen. It's been anywhere from mediocre to freaking awful. And yet the basic elements are indeed something I love. They are just implemented poorly, from what I've seen. But wait. what can this mean? Are there actually bad RPG's and Action games? Yes little Timmy. And if you take two badly done game mechanics and bash them together it doesn't come out great, it turns into a big steaming pile. Will Too Human be a good game? Hard to say but I'll wait until I can get a hands on feel for the game. And please for the love of all things holy quit using the word logic, stick to abstract thinking.
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[QUOTE="nicenator"]

If you're considering games on other platforms then you arent a fanboy, die-hard 360 user or not.

Congrats :)

Fuzzy_Munch

No it's more like you are not a real GAMER if you don't have both a 360 and a PS3.

i am a rea gamer, and i dumped the ps3 because it was more or lees a high priced dvd player with gaming as an afterthought. I am a Lemming in case you did not know.

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It's hilerious that this topic had Logic in the title twice yet i couldn't understand what the hell the first post was talking about. XD

If it wasn't for the video i'd be completly lost.

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I LOL'd, was thinking the same thing.

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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="nicenator"]

If you're considering games on other platforms then you arent a fanboy, die-hard 360 user or not.

Congrats :)

Lo_Rising

No it's more like you are not a real GAMER if you don't have both a 360 and a PS3.

i am a rea gamer, and i dumped the ps3 because it was more or lees a high priced dvd player with gaming as an afterthought. I am a Lemming in case you did not know.

Funny you say that i tried to sell it on Ebay but noone would buy it unless i took a big loss. So i'm just kept it rahter then loose money. i'll tell you something else funny i had another 20gig PS3 also i my girlfriend bought it when they first cam eout and she tried to sell it on Ebay also a big NO SLAE so she returned it to Walmart.

So this is why i have 2 360's and a PS3 now.

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#40 Fuzzy_Munch
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Dude, no one loved Champions of Norrath or Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance (II). Those games were so mindless.

Though, I did beat them. heh

Jandurin

That's funny go into the game on this site and into the gamer reviews and nothing but high 8's and 9's for the most part.

So i guess they are not Cows it's a conspiracy by god how did these non gamers do this to this game:lol:

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if i wanted a game with rpg elements id well, you know...get an rpg.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Dude, no one loved Champions of Norrath or Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance (II). Those games were so mindless.

Though, I did beat them. heh

Fuzzy_Munch

That's funny go into the game on this site and into the gamer reviews and nothing but high 8's and 9's for the most part.

So i guess they are not Cows it's a conspiracy by god how did these non gamers do this to this game:lol:

WTF. Gamerankings has Champions of Norrath at 85% and DA2 at 80.2%.

MP3 got the same score as Champions of Norrath from Gamespot.

There are no redeeming qualities to those games but slight levelling, and the ability to turn one's brain off.

/me punches Gamespot.

/me punches all reviewers.

/me punches self for playing these games.

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#43 Fuzzy_Munch
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if i wanted a game with rpg elements id well, you know...get an rpg. LoG-Sacrament

I think the Cow logic on this game is all BS if Too Human was coming out on PS3 i know for a fact it would be getting praised to all kingdon come

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#44 LoG-Sacrament
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[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]if i wanted a game with rpg elements id well, you know...get an rpg. Fuzzy_Munch

I think the Cow logic on this game is all BS if Too Human was coming out on PS3 i know for a fact it would be getting praised to all kingdon come

i used to be a sheep. and when it was announced for gcn i didnt care about it either.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]

That said I think Too Human is streching too much. The action part doesn't seem as good as GOW or NG, and the RPG part will provably be not much better than Diablo.

Thompsonwhore

That sounds perfect. Slightly easier battle + Diablo style trees and item mongering + online coop on my 360 = Fantastic Win.

Slightly easier? The battles are going to be miles easier. I mean the entire battle system is done on the right analog stick. That seems a little........ionno I reserve judgement.

There are 8 directions on the right analog stick + jumping + left analog stick.

Anyhoo, I'm curious as to whether it works. I've never played NG or DMC or GoW so I dunno if those games are really as hard as people claim.

Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison.

True, but at the same time, NG is too hard for me to even play through. Why they cant add easier difficulties to it I don't know...

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#46 Fuzzy_Munch
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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Dude, no one loved Champions of Norrath or Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance (II). Those games were so mindless.

Though, I did beat them. heh

Jandurin

That's funny go into the game on this site and into the gamer reviews and nothing but high 8's and 9's for the most part.

So i guess they are not Cows it's a conspiracy by god how did these non gamers do this to this game:lol:

WTF. Gamerankings has Champions of Norrath at 85% and DA2 at 80.2%.

MP3 got the same score as Champions of Norrath from Gamespot.

There are no redeeming qualities to those games but slight levelling, and the ability to turn one's brain off.

/me punches Gamespot.

/me punches all reviewers.

/me punches self for playing these games.

So are you know claiming that you are the spokeman for all Cows on this matter? I don't see how those rating could of got what they did for Champions if not for a majority of Cows did not buy the game.

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[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison. Jandurin
But, is it fun? Button mashers get boring. I've played Onimusha and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. Is there more than just killing the next enemy to drag you along?

I love NG but it is not as deep as DMC and DMC3 was harder imo than NG/S.
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So are you know claiming that you are the spokeman for all Cows on this matter? I don't see how those rating could of got what they did for Champions if not for a majority of Cows did not buy the game.Fuzzy_Munch
Lol. I'm not a spokesman for any group, nor am I a Cow. In fact, I believe I've been called every name now. Lemming, Hermit, Sheep, Cow. And Manticore.

I'm just surprised that those crappy games got above 73%. More importantly, I am very interested in Too Human.

Those games should've scored what Gauntlet: Dark Legacy scored (70.2).

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]Ninja Gaiden is hard. God of War and Devil May Cry are easy in comparison. ChiChiMonKilla
But, is it fun? Button mashers get boring. I've played Onimusha and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence. Is there more than just killing the next enemy to drag you along?

I love NG but it is not as deep as DMC and DMC3 was harder imo than NG/S.

I do intend to give DMC and DMC 3 a try. (And DMC4 if those are good).

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I like seafood and I like nachos.You aren't disproving my "logic" with linked "proof" if you find somebody who likes squid flavoured doritos.

I really think you need to look up the words "logic" and "proof" in the dictionary, then come back and see why your thread fails.

Fuzzy_Munch

Right i see but when they mix a game like Dues Ex on PC with FPS and RPG and it is one of the best games EVER. So your spin on logic FAILS

First of all, I made an analogy...not a concrete evidence based rebuttal.

Second, there is no denying that your post is illogical, irrational and proof of absolutely nothing.

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#50 cheapness1
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One point I'd like to make just because a game mixes two appealing genres, doesn't mean it's gonna mix them well!

Don't get me wrong Too Human looks cool but I think I'll wait for reviews or demos instead of assuming that it's amazing because it's an action/rpg!

Makes sense really...