Banjo: N&Bs will be the best platformer this generation

Okay, so Im one of those people who thought that Rare has been sucking since MS acquired them. They still make good game but not to the quality of the n64 times. (view edit history for full version of intro)

Anyway, initially with Banjo I thought it was going to suck. I thought they were going to waste the franchise. Come yesterday and I played the demo. it's freaking awesome. If the demo is remotely like the rest of the game, it's a true return to the N64 days. Yes, the game is mostly about vehicles. That being said, there is a rather large amount of platforming (some of the access points were blocked off in the demo if you didnt use the floating thing). But anyway, I can't put it in any other way, this is Banjo-Threeie and it's what I'd expect from the n64 rare.
And to put down some people's worries, the demo has a lot of content and it's about 4 jiggies worth, and I didn't get the trophy tomas's at all. And considering this si the early levels, Id imagine the latter levels are a bit more complicated (or more so thought needing) so the game will last long. The demo itself takes several hours to complete

--- And to the hardcore Banjo fan. There's eggs hidden on rooftops and a key outline in the snow. Bottles has a message to for 6000notes...

(and hell, it's $40 and comes with Banjo 1)

And for the record, when I say it's going to be the best platformer, I mean it. I don't think it's going to score the highest though, just because. Could be AA. In reality it could be a 4.5 for all I care, the demo proved to me that rare is back.

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

Heres hoping, the demo certainly had a ton of potential.

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

jethrovegas

LBP and MG will be hard to topple. Let's wait and see if it delivers first. :wink:Lionheart08

LBP will reign supreme until next gen 8)

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

jethrovegas

Well what would you consider it ?

An action game? no, not really.

RTS? building stuff =/= rts in any way

FPS? just because you shoot stuff at times doesn't mean it's a shooter

RPG? yea, at the beggiing you supposely get banjo's fitness up again, but that's not a rpg

Racer? no, halo has racing, so does gta. they';re not racers. heck, the original banjos had the same amount of racing as Banjo 3.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

too_much_eslim

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

Shinobishyguy

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

Shinobishyguy

Hmmm, are we talking about Banjo or Mario. :P

j/k

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

Shinobishyguy

so what would you consider it?

Because if that's the case, banjo 1 and 2 weren't exactly platformers either. they built upon ideas of exploration and puzzle solving.

I know a platformer when I see one. platforming doesn't exactly mean jumping from platform to platform anymore, it never has. That being said, banjo actual has a fair amount of it in showdown town.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]LBP and MG will be hard to topple. Let's wait and see if it delivers first. :wink:C_BozkurT_C

LBP will reign supreme until next gen 8)

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]LBP and MG will be hard to topple. Let's wait and see if it delivers first. :wink:nervmeister

LBP will reign supreme until next gen 8)

That's why I killed two birds with one stone by listing both.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

xXMcClaneXx

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]LBP and MG will be hard to topple. Let's wait and see if it delivers first. :wink:nervmeister

LBP will reign supreme until next gen 8)

They're all great in different ways

Mario = traditional

LBP = making levels (essentially)

Banjo = figuring out how to do stuff by challenges by building something for it

(lbp should implement challenges tht you have to do by creating a level, but osmething that works better than falling x feet, the x speed trophy is good, bring more of those)

[QUOTE="xXMcClaneXx"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

too_much_eslim

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

Yea, showdown town is HUGE.

Heck, if you do the levitation thing and go to the far section (to the right of mumbo's motors on the rooftop with the blue? egg) youd see that what you were in while playing the demo is an insignificant portion of the map.

And btw, since you actually realized that you could climb up there (meaning your at least somwhat observant whether you found it yourself or bottles told you) did you notice the hills from spiral mountain and grunty's hat in the distance while on there? freaking epic. Hoping that we get to revisit a portion of grunty's castle again. That's a blank hope.

Also did you notice, to the opposite side, what appeared to be a castle awkwardly resembling the castle from SM64?

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

FanofGames2

Well what would you consider it ?

An action game? no, not really.

RTS? building stuff =/= rts in any way

FPS? just because you shoot stuff at times doesn't mean it's a shooter

RPG? yea, at the beggiing you supposely get banjo's fitness up again, but that's not a rpg

Racer? no, halo has racing, so does gta. they';re not racers. heck, the original banjos had the same amount of racing as Banjo 3.

"Most of the time you spend playing this game will be at the helm of one of your custom built vehicles"

That's from the NZgamer review that was just posted in another thread.

I don't know exactly what I would consider it yet, but with that level of driving/vehicle creation content, I don't see how you could really consider it a platformer.

Won't happen. SMG > LBP > N&B. But N&B will still be great.fakecliche

Actually, LBP > SMG.

THat being said, Ive had more fun in the demo of N&Bs than in either of those games.

[QUOTE="FanofGames2"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

jethrovegas

Well what would you consider it ?

An action game? no, not really.

RTS? building stuff =/= rts in any way

FPS? just because you shoot stuff at times doesn't mean it's a shooter

RPG? yea, at the beggiing you supposely get banjo's fitness up again, but that's not a rpg

Racer? no, halo has racing, so does gta. they';re not racers. heck, the original banjos had the same amount of racing as Banjo 3.

"Most of the time you spend playing this game will be at the helm of one of your custom built vehicles"

That's from the NZgamer review that was just posted in another thread.

I don't know exactly what I would consider it yet, but with that level of driving/vehicle creation content, I don't see how you could really consider it a platformer.

So it's so different and creative that it can't be properly ****fied into a single genre?

lol, that works.
Sort of the biggest compliment you can give it.

But anyway, i don't know how else to put it: Banjo: N&Bs is Rare N64 esque

Super Mario Galaxy is the best platformer to come out since the Mario 64

Banjo isnt even going to touch it.

This will not end well...strudel420

Its going that route. Its like a LBP, SMG, B&K royal rumble. I am out of here...

So it's so different and creative that it can't be properly ****fied into a single genre?

lol, that works.
Sort of the biggest compliment you can give it.

FanofGames2

Not really.

And I didn't say that it can't be properly c1assified, I just said that I don't know what to consider it yet. I haven't played the final game, so I'm not entirely sure.

But yeah, based on what I've seen, and based on previews/reviews, I think we can all at least assume that it won't be a platformer, even if we don't know what it will be.

Super Mario Galaxy is the best platformer to come out since the Mario 64

Banjo isnt even going to touch it.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Jees, that sort of stinks considering you entered a sort of time pardox- banjo 1 was better than Mario 64 overall.

That being said, wtf? Mario 64 blows Galaxy out of the water.

SMG isn't nearly as good as sheep make it out to be. That being said, i can't blame them for holding onto this idea- they have like no games coming out. just buy a 360! damn, buy a ps3 even!

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="xXMcClaneXx"]

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

FanofGames2

Yea, showdown town is HUGE.

Heck, if you do the levitation thing and go to the far section (to the right of mumbo's motors on the rooftop with the blue? egg) youd see that what you were in while playing the demo is an insignificant portion of the map.

And btw, since you actually realized that you could climb up there (meaning your at least somwhat observant whether you found it yourself or bottles told you) did you notice the hills from spiral mountain and grunty's hat in the distance while on there? freaking epic. Hoping that we get to revisit a portion of grunty's castle again. That's a blank hope.

Also did you notice, to the opposite side, what appeared to be a castle awkwardly resembling the castle from SM64?

[QUOTE="FanofGames2"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="xXMcClaneXx"]

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

too_much_eslim

Yea, showdown town is HUGE.

Heck, if you do the levitation thing and go to the far section (to the right of mumbo's motors on the rooftop with the blue? egg) youd see that what you were in while playing the demo is an insignificant portion of the map.

And btw, since you actually realized that you could climb up there (meaning your at least somwhat observant whether you found it yourself or bottles told you) did you notice the hills from spiral mountain and grunty's hat in the distance while on there? freaking epic. Hoping that we get to revisit a portion of grunty's castle again. That's a blank hope.

Also did you notice, to the opposite side, what appeared to be a castle awkwardly resembling the castle from SM64?

I'd imagine you're talking about that tanker ship way in the distance or that oil rig type thing?

yea, showdown town is highly detailed.

I spent like 2 minutes just staring at the world though. It is just so detailed and it feels like a banjo pixar world, but fleshed out.

What's the overall hype for Banjo again?nervmeister

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best platformer to come out since the Mario 64

Banjo isnt even going to touch it.

FanofGames2

Jees, that sort of stinks considering you entered a sort of time pardox- banjo 1 was better than Mario 64 overall.

That being said, wtf? Mario 64 blows Galaxy out of the water.

SMG isn't nearly as good as sheep make it out to be. That being said, i can't blame them for holding onto this idea- they have like no games coming out. just buy a 360! damn, buy a ps3 even!

2nd highest rated game on Gamerankings says nothing to you, right?

Super Mario Galaxy truly is the best platformer to come out ever. I own a 360 and a gaming PC and I know when I see quality. No platformer comes close.

[QUOTE="fakecliche"]Won't happen. SMG > LBP > N&B. But N&B will still be great.FanofGames2

Actually, LBP > SMG.

THat being said, Ive had more fun in the demo of N&Bs than in either of those games.

Nah. We're talking "platformers", not "most creative game", so SMG wins in the platforming department. Its gameplay mechanics are far more sound.

What's the overall hype for Banjo again?nervmeister

For me it's AAA, but I think it'll score AA at gamespot.

I've already played it for about 5 hours, so I already know what the games going to be like.

I think i might have the stance bioshockownz has on it right now. I said it right in the first post, it's going to blow smg and lbp away but score lower

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best platformer to come out since the Mario 64

Banjo isnt even going to touch it.

FanofGames2

Jees, that sort of stinks considering you entered a sort of time pardox- banjo 1 was better than Mario 64 overall.

That being said, wtf? Mario 64 blows Galaxy out of the water.

SMG isn't nearly as good as sheep make it out to be. That being said, i can't blame them for holding onto this idea- they have like no games coming out. just buy a 360! damn, buy a ps3 even!

[QUOTE="FanofGames2"]

[QUOTE="fakecliche"]Won't happen. SMG > LBP > N&B. But N&B will still be great.fakecliche

Actually, LBP > SMG.

THat being said, Ive had more fun in the demo of N&Bs than in either of those games.

Nah. We're talking "platformers", not "most creative game", so SMG wins in the platforming department. Its gameplay mechanics are far more sound.

Not really. The gameplay mechanics in Banjo are sweet. Can't believe they nailed it down.

It's more creative, but it's also the better game.

I don't want to play around the words. it feels like what I've known as a platforming.

Mirror's Edge is a platformer, but I wouldn't compare it to SMG. That being said, SMG is comparable to banjo.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]What's the overall hype for Banjo again?too_much_eslim

[QUOTE="xXMcClaneXx"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Are you sure?

Wouldn't it have to have a fairly high percentage of platforming content to even qualify as a platformer, much less the best this generation will see?

Aren't we all pretty sure it won't get anywhere near that fairly high percentage?

too_much_eslim

i agree....the most fun i had with this demo was exploring showdown town....and i get the bad feeling that there won't be enough of this stuff in the game

no i didn't as far as i recal.....do you mean that really tall building with thewith the green ramp infront??

[QUOTE="fakecliche"][QUOTE="FanofGames2"]

[QUOTE="fakecliche"]Won't happen. SMG > LBP > N&B. But N&B will still be great.FanofGames2

Actually, LBP > SMG.

THat being said, Ive had more fun in the demo of N&Bs than in either of those games.

Nah. We're talking "platformers", not "most creative game", so SMG wins in the platforming department. Its gameplay mechanics are far more sound.

Not really. The gameplay mechanics in Banjo are sweet. Can't believe they nailed it down.

It's more creative, but it's also the better game.

I don't want to play around the words. it feels like what I've known as a platforming.

Mirror's Edge is a platformer, but I wouldn't compare it to SMG. That being said, SMG is comparable to banjo.

Nah. I can't wait for N&B, but it won't touch SMG.

[QUOTE="FanofGames2"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Super Mario Galaxy is the best platformer to come out since the Mario 64

Banjo isnt even going to touch it.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Jees, that sort of stinks considering you entered a sort of time pardox- banjo 1 was better than Mario 64 overall.

That being said, wtf? Mario 64 blows Galaxy out of the water.

SMG isn't nearly as good as sheep make it out to be. That being said, i can't blame them for holding onto this idea- they have like no games coming out. just buy a 360! damn, buy a ps3 even!

Actuall, rating wise it technically is, and GS's scores = god's word, lol Ownage? (understand this is by your logic)

Super Mario 64 = 9.4

Banjo = 9.5

Banjo Tooie = 9.6

How can anyone claim the actual platforming elements of LBP are even on par with mario or banjo? Seriously? :roll:hopesfall2own

How can people who haven't played it talk badly about it?

How can anyone claim the actual platforming elements of LBP are even on par with mario or banjo? Seriously? :roll:hopesfall2own

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]How can anyone claim the actual platforming elements of LBP are even on par with mario or banjo? Seriously? :roll:SpruceCaboose

How can people who haven't played it talk badly about it?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]How can anyone claim the actual platforming elements of LBP are even on par with mario or banjo? Seriously? :roll:hopesfall2own

How can people who haven't played it talk badly about it?

Won't happen. SMG > LBP > N&B. But N&B will still be great.fakecliche

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]How can anyone claim the actual platforming elements of LBP are even on par with mario or banjo? Seriously? :roll:nervmeister

How can people who haven't played it talk badly about it?