Battlefield 3 dev calls competition "lazy"

"They're using the same engine, the same recipe for building a game. At some point you need to take that leap. I haven't seen them take that leap since a long time ago.

DICE General Manager

The above is only a excerpt. Full article is here

What do you guys think about it?

I agree by the fact COD by putting out the samething, year after year with a change of a time period.

All i have to say is:

Medal Of Honor

eh Still enjoyed COD more then I enjoyed BC 1 and 2 *horribly designed games* I just hope its maintained that BF3 is more like Battlefield...though its worrying that BF3 will have destructable enviorments, they just better design them better I got sick of destroyed buildings in BC2 capable of destroying objectives which completely killled any one actually setting charges on objectives and just blowing the building out.

I assume that comment was meant for Treyarch and Infinity Ward overall. Yeah I kind of agree with them, Actually I do agree with them.

Pretty good statement and I agree with him 110%. I mean we haven't got that great gaming "breakthrough" yet. I mean there's only so much you can do before you start creating the same thing over and over.

He makes a good point. Some dev companies find that happy medium between producing a high-budget game and re-using as much as possible in order to cut down costs. It makes sense, as they want to increase their profit margins, unfortunately it stagnates many games.

He does have a good point, but I just hope DICE doesn't start to get really cocky with all the hype their game is getting.SoraX64

He does have a good point, but I just hope DICE doesn't start to get really cocky with all the hype their game is getting.SoraX64

All i have to say is:

Medal Of Honor

DroidPhysX

I assume that comment was meant for Treyarch and Infinity Ward overall. Yeah I kind of agree with them, Actually I do agree with them.

VensInferno

He makes a good point. Some dev companies find that happy medium between producing a high-budget game and re-using as much as possible in order to cut down costs. It makes sense, as they want to increase their profit margins, unfortunately it stagnates many games.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="SoraX64"]He does have a good point, but I just hope DICE doesn't start to get really cocky with all the hype their game is getting.millerlight89

I find that to be a smart business choice, but over time, people are going to get sick of playing the same thing over and over again. Better to have some people split from the regular team to develop a new engine.PolskaKing

Exactly. Unfortunately, companies nowadays just don't want the extra expense. It's good to see at least some are willing to push the envelope rather than rehashing engines/assets etc.

hope there "trash talk" doesnt come back to get them, but the only thing that was sub par was the medal of honor reboot

True dat.

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

[QUOTE="PolskaKing"]I find that to be a smart business choice, but over time, people are going to get sick of playing the same thing over and over again. Better to have some people split from the regular team to develop a new engine.lundy86_4

Exactly. Unfortunately, companies nowadays just don't want the extra expense. It's good to see at least some are willing to push the envelope rather than rehashing engines/assets etc.

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

xsatyr86

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

xsatyr86

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

[QUOTE="xsatyr86"]

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

mitu123

eh Still enjoyed COD more then I enjoyed BC 1 and 2 *horribly designed games* I just hope its maintained that BF3 is more like Battlefield...though its worrying that BF3 will have destructable enviorments, they just better design them better I got sick of destroyed buildings in BC2 capable of destroying objectives which completely killled any one actually setting charges on objectives and just blowing the building out.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

PolskaKing

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

All i have to say is:

Medal Of Honor

DroidPhysX

Yeah, DICE only did the multiplayer of it, but apparently that was as bad as the campaign. MoH looked like a CoD knock-off from day one.

But Battlefield 3 looks ace, no doubt. Here's hoping it's as good as it looks.

Sadly all Activision execs see is dolla dolla bills yo. I'm sure most of them aren't even gamers, or even give two **** about gaming. They just want to exploit the industry and the bro gamers.

millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

mitu123

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

mitu123

im still waiting for them to update there servers....with all that money they can afford new ones

I've really loved everything from DICE and Bad Company 2 is still one of my favorite online multiplayer games, if not my very favorite. Right now I'm really into Killzone 3.

But he's right, look at COD, its looked basically the same since Modern Warfare, there's been like 4 games in the series since then.. And they all play exactly the same.

He's completely right.

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

xsatyr86

Well if you're defending a spot, camping is probably the best tactical way to do so.

I personally don't like the idea of devs bashing each other; it seems too unprofessional and childish.

They do have what...4 developers working on CoD? I don't see why they couldn't let one of them build a new engine, or use another licensed engine. The graphics are ok for such an old engine. The terrible static environments, weak animations, and piss poor physics is what kills it. I almost forgot what it was like to shoot a cup in a game and it not do a damn thing :?millerlight89

[QUOTE="xsatyr86"]

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

Well if you're defending a spot, camping is probably the bet tactical way to do so.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] I wouldn't blame the devs. Activision just doesn't allow for enough time. millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

Since a COD game comes out every year since 2003 I agree.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

millerlight89

[QUOTE="xsatyr86"]

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 but Dice is still a little overrated here. I see more camping in BC2 than any COD game. Camp and spam 40mm grenades ftw...

Upparoom

Well if you're defending a spot, camping is probably the best tactical way to do so.

I personally don't like the idea of devs bashing each other; it seems too unprofessional and childish.

Sry need to clarify, I was talking about squad deathmatch. Also I would imagine the first mutltiplayer game ever created would have had their spawn system, it is the worst spawn system I've encountered.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

He is right. I am sick of the COD devs using a modified Quake 3 engine, with the money they make they can easily make a new engine.

As for Medal of Honor, they only worked on the multiplayer and while not that good it's graphics still beat the COD games.

Whats sad is that Bf3 could be the best multiplayer shooter ever made and MW3 could be the worst turd in history and it would outsell BF3.

Whats sad is that Bf3 could be the best multiplayer shooter ever made and MW3 could be the worst turd in history and it would outsell BF3.

NanoMan88

All i have to say is:

Medal Of Honor

DroidPhysX

You really think DICE had anything to do with that multiplayer? Sure EA slapped their name on the box to bring in more sales, but the most any DICE employee did with that mulitplayer was make the engine work, they had no say in the gameplay.

What if MW3 used Frostbite 2