Battlefield 3 is NOT "The Winner"

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#1 Zlychop
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BF3 is a game full of hype and lies.

The game has terrible maps and it just lacks longevitiy.

BC2 had better rush.

BF2 had better Conquest

A ton of people I know (from PC) were hyped as hell about but stopped playing it due to it not being as good as expected.

The player base is rapidlly dropping and the game won't last long.

BF3 is moreso BC3 but its worse than BC2....

MSNBC once said BF3 is the winner, clearly they were mistaken.

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#2 landofcookies
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I agree.

The second biggest flop of the year... Certainly no winner.

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#3 IPWNDU2
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If MSNBC was in system wars I could see point to this thread...

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#4 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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BC2 is meh though, so BF3 being worse than BC2 is downright sad.
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#5 Zlychop
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BC2 is meh though, so BF3 being worse than BC2 is downright sad.Stevo_the_gamer
BC2 had an epic Rush mode, honestly.
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#6 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]BC2 is meh though, so BF3 being worse than BC2 is downright sad.Zlychop
BC2 had an epic Rush mode, honestly.

Yeah. So good I actually prefer Rush mode than Conquest mode on ANY battlefield

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#7 Heil68
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I've been enjoying it.
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#8 RyanShazam
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I was not a fan of Battlefield 3. I played it for a few days and then traded it in for my MW3 XBox Controller :)

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#9 BrunoBRS
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i came late to BC2 so the initial balancing was done and fixed. this time i'm having to wait, but i've put quite some time into the game. karkand will probably get me back again.
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#10 danish-death
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It's good, but so full of problems. The current maps aren't the best, but with the mix of B2K it should be better.
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#11 Diviniuz
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Multiplayer is great. Needs more modes though
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#12 Zlychop
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Multiplayer is great. Needs more modes thoughDiviniuz
BF games are not known for having a ton of modes like in CoD Mostly just Conquest, with recently now Rush added to it and TDM.
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#13 PC360Wii
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Indeed it is lackluster... a shame, its mechanics are excellent... just clearly a rushed out the door to compete game, that tried to appeal to lower player counts... not enough time to focus on all sizes. That being said, MW3 is plagued with crap aswell. Im beggining to accept that my 10 year FPS phase is gone ... both games are godamn average and grinding ranks is boring... The genre is absolutely stale.
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#14 el3m2tigre
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MSNBC once said BF3 is the winner, clearly they were mistaken.

Zlychop

They said it was the winner against MW3. They are clearly right.

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#15 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Indeed it is lackluster... a shame, its mechanics are excellent... just clearly a rushed out the door to compete game, that tried to appeal to lower player counts... not enough time to focus on all sizes. That being said, MW3 is plagued with crap aswell. Im beggining to accept that my 10 year FPS phase is gone ... both games are godamn average and grinding ranks is boring... The genre is absolutely stale.

BF2 is still king, agreed?
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#16 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

MSNBC once said BF3 is the winner, clearly they were mistaken.

el3m2tigre

They said it was the winner against MW3. They are clearly right.

Technology wise, yeah. Actual gameplay wise (I don't play CoD) that's up for debate.
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#17 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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BF3 is a great experience. The maps might not be the best in the series but the gameplay sure as hell is.

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#18 pl4yer_f0und
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Yeah multiplayer fps's aren' just that compelling anymore. Everybody is trying to emulate CoD's fast, less skill based multiplayer template, while shooters that actually require skill, like Halo, or teamwork, like BC2, are getting snuffed out.

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#19 Zlychop
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BF3 is a great experience. The maps might not be the best in the series but the gameplay sure as hell is.

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The core of BF3s gameplay mechanics are not bad, but the horrible map designs and its lack of epicness in the game play hurt it a lot.
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#20 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Yeah multiplayer fps's aren' just that compelling anymore. Everybody is trying to emulate CoD's fast, less skill based multiplayer template, while shooters that actually require skill, like Halo, or teamwork, like BC2, are getting snuffed out.

pl4yer_f0und

The return of the pure shooter will return with Tribes: Ascend!

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#21 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

BF3 is a great experience. The maps might not be the best in the series but the gameplay sure as hell is.

Zlychop

The core of BF3s gameplay mechanics are not bad, but the horrible map designs and its lack of epicness in the game play hurt it a lot.

The map design isn't bad at all. It's how the modes play out in certain maps that suck.

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#22 jer_1
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I still think it's a great game, as soon as that map pack hits the streets there's going to be a tidal wave of new and return gamers hitting BF3. There's no way that the amount of people playing it has dropped THAT much, maybe some sure but I'm betting there's still a ****-ton of people playing it.
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I love both games, but I miss a LOT of BC2. The campaign was more original with a cast I cared about, and not some Black Ops/CoD4 rip off plot full of holes and lame Generation Kill banter. The set pieces were pretty meh, but BF3's set pieces were only slightly less meh so I'd say its not an improvement.

I miss the fun vehicles like golf carts and tuk tuks. I hate walking up to a truck in BF3 and realizing "oh wait, I can't drive this".

I miss the balance it seemed to have over BF3 in Rush and the maps.

I miss the full on destruction that wasn't so selective (oh great, my C4 does nothing to this wall on this map, but on the EXACT same wall on another map, a freaking grenade tears it all down!?), even if it did mean repetitive houses.

Most of all, I really miss some of the weapons and maps and vehicles. The XM8, tracer dart gun, Oasis and Arica Harbor, etc.

BF3's Back to Karkand pack makes me hopeful we'll see a Back to Bad Company pack with the XM8, Harvest Day, and that squad vehicle with the MG and grenade launcher returning at some point. For once, I think I'd gladly pay for some rehashed stuff, but I do think they could do a LOT more then just tack them on (like adding a bunch of attachments to the XM8, such as laser sights and foregrip).

Plus I'd love to play Port Valdez with 64 players, man that would be a blast.

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#24 TheOtherTheoG
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It's pretty good, slightly disappointing admittedly, I'd rather they'd had more maps at release, more larger maps specifically (I'm alright with your Metros, Grand Bazaars, Seine Crossings and Damavand Peaks being there, they just shouldn't make up half of the map selection), there are some weapon balancing issues, there aren't enough co-op missions and the single player is generic, unexciting drivel that sort of resembles a cross between Black Ops and Modern Warfare 1's campaign minus all the bits which actually make the aforementioned quite fun to play. I've stopped playing for the moment, solely because there are games in my collection which I'd simply rather play than it (ie, Minecraft, TF2, Skyrim, Magicka, Super Meat Boy at the moment). I'll pick up playing again when Back to Karkand and subsequent expansions come out, but it's not really addicting me in the way that the above are doing so.
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#25 DigitalExile
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BF3 trailers showed it as a realistic (ish) shooter, but the actual game is only a few steps away from Modern Warfare. Even if I'm exaggerating, it was still too casual for the kind of game it should be. Bleh. No thanks. (I'm not saying MW3 was better, just that MW3 feels better as the arcadey shooter it is)

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#26 Scumty
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Well im no fan of either bf3 or mw3, i dislike both games equally id say mw3 seems to have more of the fun aspect where as bf3 is more slow paced but more tactical. I prefer 3rd person shooters, socom 4 and grfs are better than bf3 and mw3 imo.
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#27 SPYDER0416
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BF3 is "more" realistic then MW3, but its not trying to be a military sim so its a moot point. What matters is fun. In BF3, its not exactly realistic to teleport in and out of vehicles or shoot someone in the chest with a .50 cal and have them live, or be repeatedly shocked to life after hundreds of bullet wounds (which should basically leave nothing but a spine at that point), but its fun and that matters.

Personally, I'd say one thing MW3 has over BF3 is that the game is built around ensuring the worst types of jerks online can't cheat the system in some terrible way. BF3 is built around playing it the way you're "supposed" to, so it has a host of issues just one jackass can screw up. From spawn killing, to jet spawn killing from no skill jerks, to a mortar spammer hiding in an unreachable spot for the enemies, etc. The worst you can get from MW3 now is someone cheesing a certain perk combo, but its not a sort of frustrating game breaking scenario that you would get from BF3.

Otherwise, I admit BF3 is so difficult to balance that for the most part it works, and its lucky its not MORE frustrating then it is.

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#28 mitu123
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Wait for Back to Karkand.

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#29 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

MSNBC once said BF3 is the winner, clearly they were mistaken.

el3m2tigre

They said it was the winner against MW3. They are clearly right.

Ummm...NO!!! MW3 is a far superior gameplay experience!!! BF3 is supposed to be this big huge game with a ton of teamwork, but I hear a ton more dialogue going on in MW3 matches than I do in BF3.
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#30 meetroid8
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I'll admit, I wasn't impressed when I played it. This coming from someone who loved 1942, 2, and 2142. If they bring back some of the older maps I might be interested.
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#31 mitu123
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I'll admit, I wasn't impressed when I played it. This coming from someone who loved 1942, 2, and 2142. If they bring back some of the older maps I might be interested. meetroid8
They are, 4 of them in like a week or 2.
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#32 Scumty
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I BF3 is overall a winner in what its done for the FPS genre, where as MW3 is more of a winner when it comes to fun.
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#33 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I'll admit, I wasn't impressed when I played it. This coming from someone who loved 1942, 2, and 2142. If they bring back some of the older maps I might be interested. meetroid8

Same here. I loved all Battlefields before, except BC1

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Winner: Skyr....BIOSHOCK INFINTE!

Hell yeah...:cool:

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#35 mlbslugger86
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the problem with battlefield 3 is some of the map designs downright suck, Operation Metro has so much choke points its crazy,

and half the time your matched into games that the side your on got pushed back all the way to their deployment...

i'm praying that the patch helps us big time

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#36 designer-
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I played MW2, MW1 and Black Ops to death. Based solely on that you usually need a double take to determine MW3 from MW2, BF3 is the much fresher and funner experience (Note, not saying MW is bad, just that I am burnt out on that formula and back end refinements to movement speed and perk structure do not make it different enough for me to want to keep playing)
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#37 Joedgabe
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I feel haunted... I see BF3 but my mind reads Battlefront 3....... :|

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#38 abusedbunny
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Can i hear other opinions on this game? I absolutely LOVED rush on Bad Company 2, the best multiplayer experience I've had in a game aside from Starcraft 2, but people are saying this games worse? hows that possible. I was gonna pick it up at best buy for $30 but now i might reconsider