Battlefield 3 is staying away from iffy moral issues

SAUCE

"If you give the player the choice to act good or bad, they will do bad, because that's what's cool. They won't be caught."

"In a game where it's more authentic, when you have a gun in your hand and a child in front of you what would happen? Well the player would probably shoot that child."

"Me personally, I'm trying to stay away from civilians in games like BF because I think people will do bad. I don't want to see videos on the internet where people shoot civilians. That's something I will sanitize by removing that feature from the game."

Well done DICE, well done. Good for them for trying to create a good military shooter, single-player campaign where it doesn't rely on shock or controversy.

they know the audience, cod did it on purpose not only for shock value but for the lulz and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:

EDIT: talking about "no russian" level

and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:eboyishere

[QUOTE="eboyishere"] and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:millerlight89

well they said it would make the story more indepth and needed to be part of the storyline(which it kind of did) but the story was so messy that it just seemed like a waste

I thought No Russian was pretty powerful to be honest, but the story that followed the mission ruined it. In regards to their decision, don't think I could care less.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"] and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:millerlight89

CoD wants to make a level that lets you massacre civilians in the airport by the hundreds...that's ok!

Six Days in Fallujah wanted to show people what really happened over there and using 100% accurate and realistic information. NO NO NO!! BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"] and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:ChubbyGuy40

CoD wants to make a level that lets you massacre civilians in the airport by the hundreds...that's ok!

Six Days in Fallujah wanted to show people what really happened over there and using 100% accurate and realistic information. NO NO NO!! BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!

to much money invested with too many people high on the food chain. No way cod was getting the boot like Six Days

I don't care, if i get BF3 i won't play the SP anyway.

Freaking Modern Warfare 2, man..... :P

Something like No Russian can work if you have a writer who isn't an 8 year old. Seriously the amount of plot holes in MW2 is quite frankly impressive.Ace6301

I thought the amount of first-person executions was impressive. Honestly, you control like 6 characters in MW2 and they all get shot in the face.

It was cool in CoD4, but MW2 decided it was cool enough to execute you ever other level. Oh, and Captain Price survived. You wanna talk impressive? Captain Freaking Price survived being shot in the head in CoD4. Also, Soap has a voice. Until Price comes back from the dead. Then Soap never talks again.

Man, who doesn't love MW2's campaign?

And No Russian actually did little to the story of Modern Warfare 2.

Granted the Guy is right, Give people the opportunity to Kill Civilians like Fable, Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption, Elder Scrolls, etc...They WILL. Why? It's a Game, No Consequences unless They're coded into the game. Heck in a Game like Battlefield you're still killing another Human Being who may have a Family of their own and they're just fighting for what they think is right.

I thought No Russian was pretty powerful to be honest, but the story that followed the mission ruined it. In regards to their decision, don't think I could care less.

jamejame

Long before I ever played the awful MW2 campaign I read quite a few articles from the gaming media about how MW2 "took a huge emotional risk that paid off."

Not that I'm against depicting immorality, but MW2 handled the depiction of that scenario with the same maturity of the 11 year old who wrote it.

And No Russian actually did little to the story of Modern Warfare 2.

Granted the Guy is right, Give people the opportunity to Kill Civilians like Fable, Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption, Elder Scrolls, etc...They WILL. Why? It's a Game, No Consequences unless They're coded into the game. Heck in a Game like Battlefield you're still killing another Human Being who may have a Family of their own and they're just fighting for what they think is right.

LegatoSkyheart

And No Russian actually did little to the story of Modern Warfare 2.

Granted the Guy is right, Give people the opportunity to Kill Civilians like Fable, Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption, Elder Scrolls, etc...They WILL. Why? It's a Game, No Consequences unless They're coded into the game. Heck in a Game like Battlefield you're still killing another Human Being who may have a Family of their own and they're just fighting for what they think is right.

LegatoSkyheart

the war of pixel armies is a dangerous one...not everyone makes it back unfortunately.

*moment of silience for the fallen*

I thought No Russian was pretty powerful to be honest, but the story that followed the mission ruined it. In regards to their decision, don't think I could care less.

jamejame

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I thought No Russian was pretty powerful to be honest, but the story that followed the mission ruined it. In regards to their decision, don't think I could care less.

ferret-gamer

People are still dumb enough to think that they look cool if they do something evil in games? :?funsohng

Heavy Rain did the best job of handling morality of any game I can recall. I didn't kill that guy with the shotgun.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]People are still dumb enough to think that they look cool if they do something evil in games? :?carljohnson3456

"If you give the player the choice to act good or bad, they will do bad, because that's what's cool"DICE

I liked shooting the chickens in Blackops, it was kinda of distracting and I ended up dying :x Wish it has been like the chickens in LoZ LP that came to attack you if you kept bothering them :P

I agree with dice their fanbase is very immature. I remember a mission like that in MW2

i didn't shoot not one civilian. When playing fable, Kotor, DA, mass effect etc i never play as evil.

Sad part about this whole thread i have like a beta invite and i still dont even care to play the game. it's basically nothing but battlefield 2 with improved graphics and some gimmicky destruction. BLEH.nintendorip2001

Battlefield 2 + enhanced visuals + very good destruction is good enough for me. Battlefield 2 was f'ing amazing.

[QUOTE="nintendorip2001"]Sad part about this whole thread i have like a beta invite and i still dont even care to play the game. it's basically nothing but battlefield 2 with improved graphics and some gimmicky destruction. BLEH.ChubbyGuy40

Battlefield 2 + enhanced visuals + very good destruction is good enough for me. Battlefield 2 was f'ing amazing.

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[QUOTE="nintendorip2001"]Sad part about this whole thread i have like a beta invite and i still dont even care to play the game. it's basically nothing but battlefield 2 with improved graphics and some gimmicky destruction. BLEH.nintendorip2001

Battlefield 2 + enhanced visuals + very good destruction is good enough for me. Battlefield 2 was f'ing amazing.

If they do it, they will be on FOX News :P

Dice got moral issues? Why do they complaining about shooting annoying kids in games and then going and make War games like that is any better...

Why dont they make something like "My little poney/Barbie" -game or something.

If I want to harm civillians I'll play GTA/Prototype/Infamous instead 8)

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"] and the funny part about it being "needed" for the story....The execution was weak :lol:ChubbyGuy40

CoD wants to make a level that lets you massacre civilians in the airport by the hundreds...that's ok!

Six Days in Fallujah wanted to show people what really happened over there and using 100% accurate and realistic information. NO NO NO!! BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!

A little off topic, but for some reason that made me think of that actor boycott in the hangover 2 with mel gibson, even though they were cool with mike tyson in the first one.

By that logic lets take out choices from RPGs since people will always choose bad.. Oh wait I play Lawful Good when given the choice.

Hmm all I know is that I really liked being the upstanding citizen in Red Dead. That game kind of made you be one anyway though, for the most part.