Battlefield 3:Weapons, Velocity, Customization, and Other New Fancy Shamcy Stuff

Source: http://mp1st.com/2011/08/22/bf3-no-one-hit-body-kills-with-snipers-more-weapon-recoil-and-more-dice-talks-guns/

When asked about the AK47 and the two M16′s, Kertz stated, "the M16A3 and M16A4 are both in the game, this was decided after the fact sheet was printed." What could be the in-game difference between the two is still unknown. Perhaps they are meant for different c.lasses? In regard to the AK47, Kertz said the "AK47 is obsolete. We have the AK74M."

Kertz also talked about weapon customization. Weapon optics were a point of interest for many fans. When asked about the recently announced enhanced night vision, Kertz stated, "the ENV is a weapon optic. It only turns on when you zoom in. There is no always on ENV. It cannot be disabled in zoom either." In regards to side arms, Kertz said there will be "no pistol customization, but a wide variety will be available." Kertz was also asked if all weapons could have suppressors attached to them. He answered, "not shotguns, pretty much everything else. Some are more effective than others." He also mentioned the flashlight attachment. "Shadows play a big role, and flashlights make a big difference."

Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."

Another interesting feature that was shown in the latest tailer was the scope glint on the weapon optics. Kertz informed us "glint is based on the scope. Out a high zoom scope on a AR will give glint too." When asked about whether glint would be noticeable only if the enemy is aiming at the player or not, Kertz confirmed, "yes it's directional."

A hot topic about weapons that was noticeable in the leaked alpha footage was regarding the recoil. Daniel "zh1n0″ Matros replied to the question of whether or not there is more weapon recoil by stating "yes, depends on what guns you pick."

One very interesting, and potentially controversial statement that Kertz made was, "there are no 1 hit body kills with sniper rifles. Pull your side arm or use a semi auto for fast follow up hits." Do you Battlefield fans agree with this? Is it unrealistic, or does it better serve the gamepley?

mp1st

Great news, looking forward to Battlefield 3 the future GOTY 2011, horray, best game ever, godsent, etc. etc. discuss.

"Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."".

Thats a bit too "sciency" for CoD fanboys... might want to remove that. Great info though the game is shaping up pretty damn well.

"Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."".

Thats a bit too "sciency" for CoD fanboys... might want to remove that. Great info though the game is shaping up pretty damn well.

JohnF111

I thought the recoil part would have already got them cringing. ;)

"Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."".

Thats a bit too "sciency" for CoD fanboys... might want to remove that. Great info though the game is shaping up pretty damn well.

JohnF111

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

"Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."".

Thats a bit too "sciency" for CoD fanboys... might want to remove that. Great info though the game is shaping up pretty damn well.

mrmusicman247

Oh and yeah i noticed that as well :lol: And the typo was intended :P

This glint BS would ruin sniping.

Boo with the lack of AK-47. Although that's just because the gun might be obsolete as in there are better weapons out there, but it's still the most widely used gun in the world. But I digress.

The rest of it sounds great. I'm really looking forward to trying all the guns and seeing how they handled recoil and bullet drop, it sounds awesome. No one hit kill sniper rifles is a great idea, I think. I loved Hardcore mode in BC2 but the sniper spam really ruined it.

Boo with the lack of AK-47. Although that's just because the gun might be obsolete as in there are better weapons out there, but it's still the most widely used gun in the world. But I digress.

The rest of it sounds great. I'm really looking forward to trying all the guns and seeing how they handled recoil and bullet drop, it sounds awesome. No one hit kill sniper rifles is a great idea, I think. I loved Hardcore mode in BC2 but the sniper spam really ruined it.

IndianaPwns39

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Boo with the lack of AK-47. Although that's just because the gun might be obsolete as in there are better weapons out there, but it's still the most widely used gun in the world. But I digress.

The rest of it sounds great. I'm really looking forward to trying all the guns and seeing how they handled recoil and bullet drop, it sounds awesome. No one hit kill sniper rifles is a great idea, I think. I loved Hardcore mode in BC2 but the sniper spam really ruined it.

JohnF111

Headshots don't bother me. It actually takes skill to hit the head. But one hit body kills were complete BS. Especially with the GOL and it's lack of bullet drop

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"Kertz also elaborated on bullet drop saying, "gravity is the same but velocity is different giving bullets different drops and travel time at the same ranges." He added, "the distances are larger so the drop has been tweaked accordingly."".

Thats a bit too "sciency" for CoD fanboys... might want to remove that. Great info though the game is shaping up pretty damn well.

JohnF111

Oh and yeah i noticed that as well :lol: And the typo was intended :P

This game will be good for sure, im liking it more every day.

They are nerfing the sniper out of relevance. One-hit-kills with body shots should be in.

YES!!

incresead recoil FTW

They are nerfing the sniper out of relevance. One-hit-kills with body shots should be in.

The_Capitalist

Aim better, shooting a guy in the body with a sniper rifle is not hard at all.

That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

mitu123

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That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

JohnF111

YES!!

incresead recoil FTW

26whitewolf

Recoil rules! The better the game, the more the recoil! ADD MORE RECOIL!

One shot and the gun flies off the screen, 10/10 FPSOTY!!!!

[QUOTE="26whitewolf"]

YES!!

incresead recoil FTW

XVision84

Recoil rules! The better the game, the more the recoil! ADD MORE RECOIL!

One shot and the gun flies off the screen, 10/10 FPSOTY!!!!

Just like real life!!!

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

mitu123

:o Woah I love that idea! I...I gotta write that down *runs to grab a note book* Note to self: annoy players by boosh wookying near tower in Caspian Border map.

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Oh i think i found a new challenge, be the one to destroy it on every match.

XVision84

:o Woah, I...I gotta write that down *runs to grab a note book* Note to self: annoy players by boosh wookying near tower in Caspian Border map.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Those bush wookies better not camp there.>.>

JohnF111

:o Woah, I...I gotta write that down *runs to grab a note book* Note to self: annoy players by boosh wookying near tower in Caspian Border map.

Or.... you could could crush them by blowing up the tower.:twisted:

That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

mitu123

"ok, jets. they have missiles. and machine guns. that tower... looks pretty tall. and pretty easy to hit. i wonder..."

Well with the differences between the M16's, the A3 will be fully auto and the A4 will be burst. Just me saying this though as this is what the real world guns are like (IIRC). Iantheone

Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

xYamatox

Things can always be improved.

This is all good news from what I'm hearing. Love that the sniper won't be able to one-shot you by a completely devastating hit to the toes, really like that they are using a bit more realistic velocity and bullet drop, that's a must this day and age. All in all it sounds really entertaining!

Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

xYamatox

I always thought the AK-47 was overrated...

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]Well with the differences between the M16's, the A3 will be fully auto and the A4 will be burst. Just me saying this though as this is what the real world guns are like (IIRC). Randoggy

The AK-47 is obsolete

DICE

So are the 1911 pistol and SKS rifle, yet they found their way in.

Goddammit, if they had the AKM in there...it would have been perfect. Oh well, I'll just make do with the SKS. Not often you see that in a game.

I'm glad there will be no 1 hit body shots with snipers. I hate in BC2 when I sneak up on snipers and try to knife them but they turn around at hte last second and no scope me. So frustrating

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

el3m2tigre

I always thought the AK-47 was overrated...

Oh it is, it's like every game needs to use the AK47 now. It's been in almost every CoD game, BFBC2: Vietnam, RAGE, and countless games before. I'm sick of it :(

Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

xYamatox

Compared to the 74 (I really hope people arent confusing it with the 74u which is in many more games), the 47 is obsolete.

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Stopped Reading then he said, "AK-47 is obsolete".

The Ak-47 is probably the greatest weapon ever invented by mankind. It will never be "obsolete".

/endtrolling

Iantheone

Compared to the 74 (I really hope people arent confusing it with the 74u which is in many more games), the 47 is obsolete.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's nice, glad they are still putting bullet drop and more reasons why this game will be awesome:

mitu123

I hope to god there is a hardcore mode. That's all I play in BC2, that's why I'm so boss.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I hope to god there is a hardcore mode. That's all I play in BC2, that's why I'm so boss.mitu123

Was never a fan of hardcore mode, simply because it was a sniper campfest. In BF3 I could definitely see hardcore working very well though.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]I hope to god there is a hardcore mode. That's all I play in BC2, that's why I'm so boss.ChubbyGuy40

Was never a fan of hardcore mode, simply because it was a sniper campfest. In BF3 I could definitely see hardcore working very well though.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] I loved how in the COD4 during the sniper mission they bring up the Coriolis effect. mrmusicman247

Oh and yeah i noticed that as well :lol: And the typo was intended :P

ON TOPIC: Oh jeez look the AK74, the gun that ruined Black Ops...

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] I loved how in the COD4 during the sniper mission they bring up the Coriolis effect. bbkkristian

Oh and yeah i noticed that as well :lol: And the typo was intended :P

ON TOPIC: Oh jeez look the AK74, the gun that ruined Black Ops...

The AK-74 wasn't in Blops, but there was an "AK-47" that looked suspiciously like one...

Battlefield's Recoil has already been well documented before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc3eKDZ_6Pw&feature=player_detailpage#t=62s

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] I have risen from the banned grave to haunt you all. Verge_6

ON TOPIC: Oh jeez look the AK74, the gun that ruined Black Ops...

The AK-74 wasn't in Blops, but there was an "AK-47" that looked suspiciously like one...

My bad I meant AK-74u

This gun:

Overpowered piece of crap....

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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

ON TOPIC: Oh jeez look the AK74, the gun that ruined Black Ops...

bbkkristian

The AK-74 wasn't in Blops, but there was an "AK-47" that looked suspiciously like one...

My bad I meant AK-74u

This gun:

Overpowered piece of crap....

Ah yes, the Krinkov. Yeah, it's in BF3. :P

Cool. Thanks for the info. Glad to hear there will be more recoil. I started out using single shot in the alpha since that's what I always used in BF2 and BF2142, but then found out the recoil was as little as CoD games' so I used full auto with no problems. I like having to shoot in controled bursts. I like the damage that snipers have. I hate guns in video games that kill in one hit. Very cheap (especially when that gun is also the most accurate and has the longest range). I cannot wait for the beta and then the full release. Playing with 64 players again is going to be so good.