Battlefield 4 Spectator Mode multiplayer footage

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#1 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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If any of you are familiar with "Jackfrags" on youtube, he put up a video showing off the spectator mode in BF4 in Multiplayer. The video followed around one guy but ti's cool to see it in the game

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BF4's MP looks so awesome. The more I see it the more I want to play it. Desmonic

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

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So, its like spectator mode from this gen? Also, is that the PC version?
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What's that being played on? Seems to be using a controller.

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Hmmm bf3 was really good looking then, because it looks close to this!

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ok..... that was rather pointless...
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I lold when he ran out of ammo and just chilled for a bit... pondering. Damn I dont think i'm capable of standing still in battlefield. Years of enemy flanking **** have taught me to never stop moving

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]BF4's MP looks so awesome. The more I see it the more I want to play it. Desmonic

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

It's similar to BF3 yes, but (from what I've seen) for the better. You can actually see enemies now! :o No more giant as f*ck sun casting ultra dark shadows and blue tint everywhere.. Also the water battles seem fun. The destruction of the map adds a layer of depth (even though, for the most part it'll get old fast) since capturing objectives now becomes a dynamic and almost tactical task of attacking, defending and destroying. I'm excited for it personally, I feel they are making a lot of right moves as far as the MP goes.

Battlelog and the whole commander stuff is a massive plus as well. Second screen mini map... that's just a dream come true and geo leaderboads look intriguing. A refined BF3 will keep me happily riding the DICE train :)
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That view makes it look so boring.

It's true Battlefield isn't the same crazy pace of Call of Duty, but there is more going on and there is more things that need your attention which make the game seem far more intense while playing.

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Meh.
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The only thing im worried about is it all being conquest, which sucks. Conquest assault is so much better. Or Rush, but with rush bad company did it so much better than BF3 (other than operation metro).

I just hope BF4 doesn't turn into another game where i hope on operation metro everyday and nothing else.

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So, its like spectator mode from this gen? Also, is that the PC version?clyde46

Most likely PC footage yeah

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]BF4's MP looks so awesome. The more I see it the more I want to play it. Desmonic

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

It's similar to BF3 yes, but (from what I've seen) for the better. You can actually see enemies now! :o No more giant as f*ck sun casting ultra dark shadows and blue tint everywhere.. Also the water battles seem fun. The destruction of the map adds a layer of depth (even though, for the most part it'll get old fast) since capturing objectives now becomes a dynamic and almost tactical task of attacking, defending and destroying. I'm excited for it personally, I feel they are making a lot of right moves as far as the MP goes.

Yeah same, but the only thing I'm not liking is that the classes haven't been changed from what we've seen. Like Support still has C4 and Assault seems to have med kits. I want the BC2 classes back with Recon having the C4 and having a dedicated Medic class with LMGs. Assault having the best guns and infinite health (more or less) is just too overpowered

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Same game, new maps. What more can I say?
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I'm glad to see Battlefield is now using replays. I think this is something pretty much every online shooter should have by now and hope to at least see it in Killzone Shadow Fall and Titan Fall.

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look at that garbage....
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It look same. I never like how character react to being shot in battlefield game. Makes look cartoon, bullet sponging and body moving and bend unnatural...
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They need an in-game replay function like battlerecorder of yester-year and I'll buy two copies.

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It look same. I never like how character react to being shot in battlefield game. Makes look cartoon, bullet sponging and body moving and bend unnatural...Mr-Kutaragi
There's not really another way to do it. It's like that in every game. If that was made realistic you'd drop on the spot and be dead lol.
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]It look same. I never like how character react to being shot in battlefield game. Makes look cartoon, bullet sponging and body moving and bend unnatural...LustForSoul
There's not really another way to do it. It's like that in every game. If that was made realistic you'd drop on the spot and be dead lol.

Plenty of game do it decent. This game is among worst imo in bullet reaction considering other aspect like destruction are well done. Like, back becomes rubber and stretching and body bends weird. Maybe since next gen can do cloth physic better as well to hide this.
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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]It look same. I never like how character react to being shot in battlefield game. Makes look cartoon, bullet sponging and body moving and bend unnatural...Mr-Kutaragi
There's not really another way to do it. It's like that in every game. If that was made realistic you'd drop on the spot and be dead lol.

Plenty of game do it decent. This game is among worst imo in bullet reaction considering other aspect like destruction are well done. Like, back becomes rubber and stretching and body bends weird. Maybe since next gen can do cloth physic better as well to hide this.

Welp, I took another look at the video. The character does seem a bit spastic, like it hurts a lot but just straightens up afterwards. I'd rather they had barely any animation compared to this. I think it's the same as in BF3 however, which looked kinda lame as well. I just ignored it though.
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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"] There's not really another way to do it. It's like that in every game. If that was made realistic you'd drop on the spot and be dead lol.

Plenty of game do it decent. This game is among worst imo in bullet reaction considering other aspect like destruction are well done. Like, back becomes rubber and stretching and body bends weird. Maybe since next gen can do cloth physic better as well to hide this.

Welp, I took another look at the video. The character does seem a bit spastic, like it hurts a lot but just straightens up afterwards. I'd rather they had barely any animation compared to this. I think it's the same as in BF3 however, which looked kinda lame as well. I just ignored it though.

Is exactly same of current gen BF game, standing out worse because many recent game is better animation. Maybe more notice because 3rd person view, but I notice bad animation when shooting enemy or watch teammate shot in BF3 too. Works for Bad COmpany series because is more funny series and not serious, but does not work in more realistic main series. And because so many bullets to kill in BF game, looks more cartoon being shot with many bullet and bad animation.
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

seanmcloughlin

It's similar to BF3 yes, but (from what I've seen) for the better. You can actually see enemies now! :o No more giant as f*ck sun casting ultra dark shadows and blue tint everywhere.. Also the water battles seem fun. The destruction of the map adds a layer of depth (even though, for the most part it'll get old fast) since capturing objectives now becomes a dynamic and almost tactical task of attacking, defending and destroying. I'm excited for it personally, I feel they are making a lot of right moves as far as the MP goes.

Yeah same, but the only thing I'm not liking is that the classes haven't been changed from what we've seen. Like Support still has C4 and Assault seems to have med kits. I want the BC2 classes back with Recon having the C4 and having a dedicated Medic class with LMGs. Assault having the best guns and infinite health (more or less) is just too overpowered

-Recon has been shown to possess C4. 

-Support doesn't have C4.  (unless they're planning on giving it to multiple classes in the final release, but it's unconfirmed at this point)

-Support was given the XM-25. (this is probably the replacement for C4)

-Medics do appear the same as BF3.  (although you can mix and match your equipment instead of having defibs 100% of the time)

-Recon now has motion balls like BC2.  (I saw a screencap that showed the TUGS icon in the loadout menu, but I don't know if that's enough to confirm their return)

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Plenty of game do it decent. This game is among worst imo in bullet reaction considering other aspect like destruction are well done. Like, back becomes rubber and stretching and body bends weird. Maybe since next gen can do cloth physic better as well to hide this.Mr-Kutaragi
Welp, I took another look at the video. The character does seem a bit spastic, like it hurts a lot but just straightens up afterwards. I'd rather they had barely any animation compared to this. I think it's the same as in BF3 however, which looked kinda lame as well. I just ignored it though.

Is exactly same of current gen BF game, standing out worse because many recent game is better animation. Maybe more notice because 3rd person view, but I notice bad animation when shooting enemy or watch teammate shot in BF3 too. Works for Bad COmpany series because is more funny series and not serious, but does not work in more realistic main series. And because so many bullets to kill in BF game, looks more cartoon being shot with many bullet and bad animation.

Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was. 

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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"] Welp, I took another look at the video. The character does seem a bit spastic, like it hurts a lot but just straightens up afterwards. I'd rather they had barely any animation compared to this. I think it's the same as in BF3 however, which looked kinda lame as well. I just ignored it though.HavocV3

Is exactly same of current gen BF game, standing out worse because many recent game is better animation. Maybe more notice because 3rd person view, but I notice bad animation when shooting enemy or watch teammate shot in BF3 too. Works for Bad COmpany series because is more funny series and not serious, but does not work in more realistic main series. And because so many bullets to kill in BF game, looks more cartoon being shot with many bullet and bad animation.

Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was. 

I never claim was ARMA. Please stop grasp. I said is more serious than bad company, and if you play story this is obvious.
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Is exactly same of current gen BF game, standing out worse because many recent game is better animation. Maybe more notice because 3rd person view, but I notice bad animation when shooting enemy or watch teammate shot in BF3 too. Works for Bad COmpany series because is more funny series and not serious, but does not work in more realistic main series. And because so many bullets to kill in BF game, looks more cartoon being shot with many bullet and bad animation.Mr-Kutaragi

Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was. 

I never claim was ARMA. Please stop grasp. I said is more serious than bad company, and if you play story this is obvious.

Yeah...except BF2 was just as serious...and that game had higher TTKs (slower kills) and more 'bullet sponging' than BF3.  And BC2 MP wasn't even goofy like the campaign....

I'll reiterate: Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was.

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I prefer BF games over CoD games because BF game are a lot more atmospheric and feel way more realistic. CoD is too arcadey for me.
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#33 Mr-Kutaragi
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]

Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was. 

HavocV3

I never claim was ARMA. Please stop grasp. I said is more serious than bad company, and if you play story this is obvious.

Yeah...except BF2 was just as serious...and that game had higher TTKs (slower kills) and more 'bullet sponging' than BF3.  And BC2 MP wasn't even goofy like the campaign....

I'll reiterate: Battlefield isn't a milsim.  Never was.

battlefield 2 of 8 years ago and different engine. :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIZhjG5JjFE MP doesn't have story, what the hell talking about? :\ I'll reiterate: Never say BF is ARMA. Never did. Just disappear, because making fool at this point and pointless arguing. You cannot dispute that main BF series is more serious than Bad Company, and animation is poor and reuse from goof series.
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-Recon has been shown to possess C4. 

-Support doesn't have C4.  (unless they're planning on giving it to multiple classes in the final release, but it's unconfirmed at this point)

-Support was given the XM-25. (this is probably the replacement for C4)

-Medics do appear the same as BF3.  (although you can mix and match your equipment instead of having defibs 100% of the time)

-Recon now has motion balls like BC2.  (I saw a screencap that showed the TUGS icon in the loadout menu, but I don't know if that's enough to confirm their return)

HavocV3

I remember watching the video and the class who blew up the tank was support and he used C4, but checking online now and seeing the loadout it appears Recon DOES have C4 again. Awesome! :D 

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It looks so bland and souless. BF3 had the same issue but at least it had a shiney new engine to draw you in. 

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honestly it looked booring

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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

seanmcloughlin

It's similar to BF3 yes, but (from what I've seen) for the better. You can actually see enemies now! :o No more giant as f*ck sun casting ultra dark shadows and blue tint everywhere.. Also the water battles seem fun. The destruction of the map adds a layer of depth (even though, for the most part it'll get old fast) since capturing objectives now becomes a dynamic and almost tactical task of attacking, defending and destroying. I'm excited for it personally, I feel they are making a lot of right moves as far as the MP goes.

Yeah same, but the only thing I'm not liking is that the classes haven't been changed from what we've seen. Like Support still has C4 and Assault seems to have med kits. I want the BC2 classes back with Recon having the C4 and having a dedicated Medic class with LMGs. Assault having the best guns and infinite health (more or less) is just too overpowered

if they made medic the LMG again id stab someone at DICE.  And recon is the c4 class again, as revelead in that bf4 thread I made a while back

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"] It's similar to BF3 yes, but (from what I've seen) for the better. You can actually see enemies now! :o No more giant as f*ck sun casting ultra dark shadows and blue tint everywhere.. Also the water battles seem fun. The destruction of the map adds a layer of depth (even though, for the most part it'll get old fast) since capturing objectives now becomes a dynamic and almost tactical task of attacking, defending and destroying. I'm excited for it personally, I feel they are making a lot of right moves as far as the MP goes.

wis3boi

Yeah same, but the only thing I'm not liking is that the classes haven't been changed from what we've seen. Like Support still has C4 and Assault seems to have med kits. I want the BC2 classes back with Recon having the C4 and having a dedicated Medic class with LMGs. Assault having the best guns and infinite health (more or less) is just too overpowered

if they made medic the LMG again id stab someone at DICE.  And recon is the c4 class again, as revelead in that bf4 thread I made a while back

Yeah I looked up some stuff now and it seems like it is with Recon again, thank God. Recon badly needed anti vehicle weaponry in BF3. 

As much as I love wrecking house with the assault as a medic and getting big scores and streaks it really fvcks up the game modes. That's why BF3 is a disaster on some maps, cos assault is way OP and certain classes lack certain items. It's why BC2 has far better teamwork than BF3

They really need to take med kits off assault. Though they haven't

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The clips they sent out to youtubers weren't the greatest, some of the players were pretty terrible. This is all part of maintaining the hype train, but hopefully next time they have something a bit more meaty to show us. Like the rumored game modes, Russian characters or another map. Course I'm looking forward to it, but I'm just waiting on the beta at this point.
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The only thing im worried about is it all being conquest, which sucks. Conquest assault is so much better. Or Rush, but with rush bad company did it so much better than BF3 (other than operation metro).

I just hope BF4 doesn't turn into another game where i hope on operation metro everyday and nothing else.

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It doesnt bother me that it may look close to BF3 considering that games looks great...

Have no doubts BF4 will be a great game :)

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That footage is awful though, can't believe they are advertising that.
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I never had the full experience of playing battlefield 3 on pc, but it left a bad taste playing on xbox 360. The big issue was map size and player count (which is addressed on next gen). Watching the video, game just looks boring. With maps being so big it just spreads out and looks like you'll go for minutes without action. That was the big reason I gave up on bf3 on xbox 360(conquest, i could cap flags during a match and only get about 5 kills and not see any action). Think I'm just coming down with fatigue with the battlefield series(same with cod). Something just needs to change, besides just running around capping flags and destroying mcom stations. I'd like more story based multiplayer, kinda like the socom days(escorting vips, breaking into bases and freeing hostages and so on). Battlefield can keep those modes but something else needs to be incorporated into the mix.
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That footage is awful though, can't believe they are advertising that.MBirdy88

Yeah as I said, that footage makes the game look boring.

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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]BF4's MP looks so awesome. The more I see it the more I want to play it. seanmcloughlin

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

It has commander mode, so that makes it infinitely better than BF3. In fact, I wonder how much better BF3 would have been with Commander mode.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]BF4's MP looks so awesome. The more I see it the more I want to play it. LordOfPoms

It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

It has commander mode, so that makes it infinitely better than BF3. In fact, I wonder how much better BF3 would have been with Commander mode.

Command mode and in-game VoiP. The enhanced destruction is awesome too. There are also a lot of player driven environmental mechanics that have a direct impact on the flow of  battle. Should be great. 

For example players and open and close the windows in a shopping center at the lower level of a building. Closing them drops the metal chains and prevents players from going through there. Those little changes allow players to more dynamically control the routes that they and the enemy have to take. Should provide for some interesting combat.

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#47 LordOfPoms
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It looks a LOT like BF3 but as long as it's a more refined and polished BF3 I will love it. The audio sounds so much meatier too 

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It has commander mode, so that makes it infinitely better than BF3. In fact, I wonder how much better BF3 would have been with Commander mode.

Command mode and in-game VoiP. The enhanced destruction is awesome too. There are also a lot of player driven environmental mechanics that have a direct impact on the flow of  battle. Should be great. 

For example players and open and close the windows in a shopping center at the lower level of a building. Closing them drops the metal chains and prevents players from going through there. Those little changes allow players to more dynamically control the routes that they and the enemy have to take. Should provide for some interesting combat.

Everything you listed is what has me optimistic about the game. I really feel like DICE made the "casual" BF game EA wanted and now that they've proven their style is better, they've sold them on "OK, here's what we really want to do. Will you just let us make the BF game people know we can make?" Fortunately EA seems to be listening these days -- fingers crossed.
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The legendary Killzone 2 had this....