Battlefield Bad Company 2 - No Mods or Self-Hosted Dedicated Servers

Just hours after finding out that Supreme Commander won't allow custom maps more damming news comes for the PC modding community. Electronic Arts today announced that the PC version of Battlefield Bad Company 2 will not have any modding tools released, claiming the server side 'logic' is controlled by the dedicated server software.

Great, that means you'll be able to setup the game just as you want right? Well no. Electronic Arts have decided they will not distribute the dedicated server software to the general public. The battlefield blog states - "There are many factors for why we have decided this with the biggest factor being security & integrity of our game & Dedicated Servers."

This means, whileyou will be able to rent servers, you won't be able to create your own using a VPS or server you have in your basement. The conditions on what companies will be given the software have not yet been disclosed, but it's likely to serious limit competition and thus drive up prices for server admins. EA may choose to sell the dedicated server software to certain intrested companies, although that is only speculation.

So in summary:You will be able to get hosted dedicated servers, but won't be able to host them. You can tweak settings such as bans, map rotations and the likes, but you will not be able to use custom maps or advanced mods. For EA to be able to pull off a solution which the likes of server admins will be satisfied with, the tweaks that can be done will have to be vast and inclusive of plenty of game features.

As with a lot of recent moves eliminating dedicated servers, the core reason EA does not want to give out the dedicated server software is piracy. All the previous games have had the software hacked to be able to allow pirated copies play on private servers. However the software has been made and will be distributed to server hosts, so I would place a bet on it leaking out.

Source: Bad Company 2 Blog

http://aperturegames.com/listnews.php?story=bad-company-2--no-mods-dedicated-server

EDIT:[IMPORTANT] No Self Hosted Dedicated Servers rather than the previous title no dedicated servers

Either learn to read or stop trying to mis inform people.

Misleading title is misleading. :| You still get Dedicated Servers, just no mods which I really don't care about. Sure mods can sometimes be great like Team Fortress or Counter-Strike but I really just want to play the game the developers created.

People will be so angry.

People will be so angry.

789shadow

First off all, dedicated servers are still fully in. Don't lie.

Mods is...well, depressing to say the least.

I just hope the lag isn't as bad as IWnet here in Australia.

Meh, I never use mods in a BF game anyways, but I guess it sucks for some people. I still can't wait for the game though

But there's so much potential for awesome custom maps on the PC version :(Juggernaut140

And here we go again! MW2, you're not alone anymore!

The title of this thread either needs to be changed or this topic should be locked for misinformative title

No mod support does suck but i'm glad we still get dedicated servers as bfbc2 would suck would p2p and matchmaking. And they actually took the extra effort for the pc version increasing the player size from 24 to 32 as well enhancing the graphics and including dx9,dx10, and dx11 support and giving prone exclusively for the pc. and map packs will no doubt be $10-$15 on consoles but will be free on the pc which is already $10 cheaper off the bat. Of course being an fps the mouse and keyboard will be the best way to play this.DJ_Headshot

Actually all the extra content for Bad Company 1 was free. One thing I just don't understand is why DICE doesn't make the console version 32 v 32, I mean they are already using dedicated servers for the console games too, why not just up the player count?

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]No mod support does suck but i'm glad we still get dedicated servers as bfbc2 would suck would p2p and matchmaking. And they actually took the extra effort for the pc version increasing the player size from 24 to 32 as well enhancing the graphics and including dx9,dx10, and dx11 support and giving prone exclusively for the pc. and map packs will no doubt be $10-$15 on consoles but will be free on the pc which is already $10 cheaper off the bat. Of course being an fps the mouse and keyboard will be the best way to play this.DarkGamer007

Actually all the extra content for Bad Company 1 was free. One thing I just don't understand is why DICE doesn't make the console version 32 v 32, I mean they are already using dedicated servers for the console games too, why not just up the player count?

Misleading title is misleading. :| You still get Dedicated Servers, just no mods which I really don't care about. Sure mods can sometimes be great like Team Fortress or Counter-Strike but I really just want to play the game the developers created.

DarkGamer007

does no publically distributed mod tools mean no mods at all?funsohng

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]No mod support does suck but i'm glad we still get dedicated servers as bfbc2 would suck would p2p and matchmaking. And they actually took the extra effort for the pc version increasing the player size from 24 to 32 as well enhancing the graphics and including dx9,dx10, and dx11 support and giving prone exclusively for the pc. and map packs will no doubt be $10-$15 on consoles but will be free on the pc which is already $10 cheaper off the bat. Of course being an fps the mouse and keyboard will be the best way to play this.DarkGamer007

Actually all the extra content for Bad Company 1 was free. One thing I just don't understand is why DICE doesn't make the console version 32 v 32, I mean they are already using dedicated servers for the console games too, why not just up the player count?

Almost 100% sure it's hardware limitations of the consoles.

lol at bf2 devs were trying to please ppl who felt upset by mw2 on pc

Misleading title is misleading. :| You still get Dedicated Servers, just no mods which I really don't care about. Sure mods can sometimes be great like Team Fortress or Counter-Strike but I really just want to play the game the developers created.

DarkGamer007

That's such a pisspoor excuse to not care about mods.

Developers create games for money, gamers create mods to improve the game and to add longevity. When you don't have mods to add longevity, look what happens to games (look at every console game) You either get bombarded with overpriced DLC or the communities die within months, only popular shooters survive.

What's wrong with playing a mod? It's not like your disrespecting the developer, it's a win/win for both. They get the money they care about, and gamers get a lot of bang for their buck.

I just don't see how people can even insinuate mods are a bad thing. Since when was being given more options a bad thing?

Funny how no mod support isn't big deal now BC2 hasn't got it :lol: :lol:

lol at bf2 devs were trying to please ppl who felt upset by mw2 on pc

13C

A couple months ago, PC gamers were showering DICE with love because, unlike Infinity Ward, they were supporting PC gaming. Funny how I'm not seeing that love in this thread, just like how DICE was bashed for selling out to consoles with BF1943 and BC2 before BF3.

I can only hope this is because DICE doesn't expect the game to last long PC because they have BF3 in the works.

och well...Red Orchestra 2 and Natural Selection 2 are the only 2010 multiplayer FPSes that are looking appealing to me.

A couple months ago, PC gamers were showering DICE with love because, unlike Infinity Ward, they were supporting PC gaming. Funny how I'm not seeing that love in this thread, just like how DICE was bashed for selling out to consoles with BF1943 and BC2 before BF3.

lowe0

A couple months ago, PC gamers were showering DICE with love because, unlike Infinity Ward, they were supporting PC gaming. Funny how I'm not seeing that love in this thread, just like how DICE was bashed for selling out to consoles with BF1943 and BC2 before BF3.

lowe0

It's funny how all the PC fans will go "We don't care about mods that much anyway we just want the dedicated servers!" Even though mods were the greatest thing in existance when MW2 came out...bobbetybob

edit: This isn't any different than what they said some while ago. Link

"Once we start getting there and the engine gets to a level where we can release tools that are easy for our own guys to use, and then easy for people publicly, then we'll get into that and we'll really start to focus on it," he revealed.

"But it's definitely not something that we're like, 'oh, we won't do that.'"

"If EA pulls it off correctly you can expect the system to be used across a range of future games. As with a lot of recent moves eliminating dedicated servers the core reason EA does not want to give out the dedicated server software is piracy."

This will probably be true with BF3 also then.

As long as Steam will not be mandatory to BC 2 in PC, is fine, because mod tools will come with BF 3 next years; at the end BC 2 is only a console port snack with dedicated servers support.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]It's funny how all the PC fans will go "We don't care about mods that much anyway we just want the dedicated servers!" Even though mods were the greatest thing in existance when MW2 came out..._Pedro_

edit: This isn't any different than what they said some while ago. Link

"Once we start getting there and the engine gets to a level where we can release tools that are easy for our own guys to use, and then easy for people publicly, then we'll get into that and we'll really start to focus on it," he revealed.

"But it's definitely not something that we're like, 'oh, we won't do that.'"