Best and worst level design IYO

I have 2 categories non-linear and linear level design. I don't count open world games since they have no levels really.

Linear:

Best: Half Life 2

Worst: Killzone 3 (great game otherwise)

Nonlinear:

Best: DOOM, Demon's Souls

Worst: OoT

How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

Legendaryscmt

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How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

Cow4ever

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How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

mrmusicman247

Doom level design for example

How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

Legendaryscmt

The OP is that Charlesdarwin bloke, who made tons of OOT hate threads here ages ago on his old account, so i wouldnt bother asking for reasons off him.

Anyway, while Halo CE had some pretty poorly designed levels, it also had some fantastic level design, AOTCR was spectacular as was Halo (the level) and Silent Cartographer.

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How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

Snugenz

The OP is that Charlesdarwin bloke, who made tons of OOT hate threads here ages ago on his old account, so i wouldnt bother asking for reasons off him.

Anyway, while Halo CE had some pretty poorly designed levels, it also had some fantastic level design, AOTCR was spectacular as was Halo (the level) and Silent Cartographer.

Hey that's just my opinion man. And I am not any charlesdarwin. There must be more people than me who don't think it's the best game ever.Cow4ever

I agree, it's not the best game ever. I just wouldn't consider it to have the worst level design ever for non-linear gameplay. *points finger at AC*

I can't decide on a best for non-linear, because I don't much play those kinds of games.

My favorite level design in a game is Tomb Raider Anniversary's.

sorry, charlesdarwin, but OOT had great level design. :)

Valve has some incredible level design in all of their games.

Crysis has some awesome sandbox environments

Best - Linear: Portal 2 - a mastercIass Worst: Mirrors Edge - unbelievably repetitive, derivative devices.

Best Non linear: GTA IV - the level of detail is just astonishing.

Not sure about the worst: maybe Assassins Creed 1 on the account that you had this huge space with nothing to do in it.

How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

Legendaryscmt

Actually if libery was real, i would not be suppriced that it would looked like that :p as you may not noticed real world buildings are made the same, most floors have same structure

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How was OoT's level design bad? Just off the top of my head, The Library from Halo still gives me nightmares. Same floor repeated several times with little variation, probably the worst part of any Halo game.

ShadowriverUB

Actually if libery was real, i would not be suppriced that it would looked like that :p as you may not noticed real world buildings are made the same, most floors have same structure

Just because something could be like that in real life doesn't mean it would be fun in a game.

i'll do this gen

Best-SMG2,Portal 2,GTA IV (great city tbh).

Worst-MW2 (multiplayer maps are horrid),FFXIII,Oblivion(hefty copy paste)

Doom level design for example

Cow4ever

Really how does that even WORK? Doom has you run around for keys and secrets.. Zelda has you run around for keys and secrets..

Best level design: with exploration

Worse level design: without exploration

:P

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]Hey that's just my opinion man. And I am not any charlesdarwin. There must be more people than me who don't think it's the best game ever.mmmwksil

I agree, it's not the best game ever. I just wouldn't consider it to have the worst level design ever for non-linear gameplay. *points finger at AC*

I can't decide on a best for non-linear, because I don't much play those kinds of games.

Is this about level design or map layout?Diviniuz

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Doom level design for example

sSubZerOo

Really how does that even WORK? Doom has you run around for keys and secrets.. Zelda has you run around for keys and secrets..

I only buy AAA titles and so far no game ive played has had bad leevl design.

As for best level design, man thats tough, I will probably go with aaaahh Bioshock 1.

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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]Hey that's just my opinion man. And I am not any charlesdarwin. There must be more people than me who don't think it's the best game ever.Cow4ever

I agree, it's not the best game ever. I just wouldn't consider it to have the worst level design ever for non-linear gameplay. *points finger at AC*

I can't decide on a best for non-linear, because I don't much play those kinds of games.

Agreed, but temple rolls off the tongue better. :P And we have to remember Zelda games have always focused on the puzzle/exploration portion above all else. They may not be the most challenging, but I'll be darned if they don't satisfy the eager and willing gamer.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 for best. I haven't played many "bad" games, let alone any of the "worst ever made" so I can't comment on poor level design.foxhound_fox