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#1 Nerkcon
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Because apparently no one likes JRPGs anymore. :P
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#2 SilentlyMad
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Bioware easy
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#3 xTheExploited
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Not even threadworthy. Its Bioware every time.
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#4 brickdoctor
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Close call between Bioware and Bethesda. Fallout 3 is my favorite RPG of all time, but Mass Effect and KOTOR are my favorite RPG series of all time.

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#5 wulfgar31k
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Bioware, followed VERY closely by Obsidian.

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#6 Ballroompirate
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Bioware hands down no contest, if this was 5 years ago, Blizzard would have the crown.

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#7 methinksyou
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Anyone that has played Fallout 1,2 and Planescape knows that Black Isle Studios were the best, they also assisted with BG franchise. WTF with bioware you mention mass effect, but not never winter nights? You also do not mention Baldur's Gate 2... Anyway, none of those have delivered recently in the RPG department. Bioware: BG2 > Dragon age Kotor > Mass effect 2 Bethesda: Morrowind > Oblivion both Fallouts from black isle > Fallout 3 Blizzard: Diablo 2 boring( only played SP as necromencer till the desert) Guild Wars or Atlantica online > WOW Black isle studios: Is defunct now The only RPGs that i actually cared about this gen: The Witcher( CD Projekt RED STUDIO) Demon's Souls( From software) Guild Wars ( ArenaNet ) Atlantica Online ( NDOORS Interactive ) Valkyria Chronicles ( Sega Wow )
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#8 Doom_HellKnight
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BioWare.
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#9 mo0ksi
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WioBare.

I would say BI, but they're no longer with us.

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#10 alextherussian
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Im gonna go against the current and say . . . . Bioware
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#11 the-obiwan
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bioware obviously
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#12 naval
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Black Isle --- honestly rpg wise developers present on other options don't really come close

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#13 gamer620
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Black Isle --- honestly rpg wise developers present on other options don't really come close

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I completely agree with this... The reason why no Bioware game has lived up to the Baldur's Gate series is because Black Isle had a part in the development. Not to mention the influence that Planescape: Torment had on KOTOR... It is a tragedy that this studio no longer exists... its nice that Bioware and Obsidian can fill a void of theres, but so far no studio has fully reached their level.
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#14 WasntAvailable
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Anyone that has played Fallout 1,2 and Planescape knows that Black Isle Studios were the best, they also assisted with BG franchise. WTF with bioware you mention mass effect, but not never winter nights? You also do not mention Baldur's Gate 2... Anyway, none of those have delivered recently in the RPG department. Bioware: BG2 > Dragon age Kotor > Mass effect 2 Bethesda: Morrowind > Oblivion both Fallouts from black isle > Fallout 3 Blizzard: Diablo 2 boring( only played SP as necromencer till the desert) Guild Wars or Atlantica online > WOW Black isle studios: Is defunct now The only RPGs that i actually cared about this gen: The Witcher( CD Projekt RED STUDIO) Demon's Souls( From software) Guild Wars ( ArenaNet ) Atlantica Online ( NDOORS Interactive ) Valkyria Chronicles ( Sega Wow )methinksyou

NWN? That game was easily one of Bioware's worst games, so very dry compared to pretty much everything else they have done.

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#15 CDUB316
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bioware for a great story and great character development

bethesda for great size and a ton of crap to do, lol

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#16 methinksyou
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[QUOTE="methinksyou"]Anyone that has played Fallout 1,2 and Planescape knows that Black Isle Studios were the best, they also assisted with BG franchise. WTF with bioware you mention mass effect, but not never winter nights? You also do not mention Baldur's Gate 2... Anyway, none of those have delivered recently in the RPG department. Bioware: BG2 > Dragon age Kotor > Mass effect 2 Bethesda: Morrowind > Oblivion both Fallouts from black isle > Fallout 3 Blizzard: Diablo 2 boring( only played SP as necromencer till the desert) Guild Wars or Atlantica online > WOW Black isle studios: Is defunct now The only RPGs that i actually cared about this gen: The Witcher( CD Projekt RED STUDIO) Demon's Souls( From software) Guild Wars ( ArenaNet ) Atlantica Online ( NDOORS Interactive ) Valkyria Chronicles ( Sega Wow )WasntAvailable

NWN? That game was easily one of Bioware's worst games, so very dry compared to pretty much everything else they have done.

Not really they have done worse, jade empire, kotor, mass effect,Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood,Shattered Steel and dragon age for example. My favorite from them is BG2 and my 2nd is NWN. That is why opinions are opinions :>
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#17 Fried_Shrimp
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Black Isle where always better than Bioware.

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#18 Mograine
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Black Isle --- honestly rpg wise developers present on other options don't really come close

naval

So true.

BioWare is great, I mean really great. But Black Isle is on a whole different level.

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#19 Regisland
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Its really hard choosing between Bioware and Bethesda,but I will say Bethesda for the rpg elements they took away from ME2.

btw New Vegas this FALL :D

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#20 Mograine
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I will say Bethesda for the rpg elements they took away from ME2.

Regisland

What?

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#21 Trinexxx
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No love for Lionhead? I don't think they are the best, but definitely worth mentioning.
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#22 Mograine
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No love for Lionhead? I don't think they are the best, but definitely worth mentioning.Trinexxx

Against the three and a half RPG titans in that list? Not really.

Luckily there's the "other option" for you.

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#23 froidnite
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Black Isle for sure. Even if they had developed only one game and that game was PS:T, I would still put them on top. PS:T is that good.

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#24 ohthemanatee
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Bioware = Black Isle Studios > Troika = Obisidian > Pirana bites > Blizzard > Bethesda > everyone else
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#25 Arach666
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Black Isle wins because of Planescape Torment,the best RPG ever made. Then Troika in 2nd. Only then comes Bioware.
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#26 SilverChimera
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Bioware are the best AND the most consistent. Targets down commander!
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#27 LookAnDrolL
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As much as i love BioWare, i have to go with black isle, there's not a better role playing experience outhere than Planescape and Fallout

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#28 GhoX
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Those last two options are no competition when it comes to WRPG. I would have given my vote to Black Isle had they lived on and kept making great games. Nowadays Obsidian is not nearly as great.
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#29 yokofox33
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Bioware. I've turned into a major fan of the Mass Effect games, and enjoy Dragon Age quite a bit. I'm gonna need to delve into the KOTOR games. Didn't really like the first KOTOR a long time ago, but I want to give it a 2nd chance now.

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#30 xsubtownerx
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Black Isle, BABY!

in fact, the poll is FULL OF FAIL!

Black Isle are the ones that MADE Baldur's Gate :lol:

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#31 DaveyDeathblade
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Not even threadworthy. Its Bioware every time.xTheExploited
Except when it's Black Isle, which is all the time.
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#32 Vari3ty
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Um yea Black Isle.

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#33 Goomba_Lord37
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BioWare definitely.

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#34 jethrovegas
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For people who like freedom, originality, and quality role playing content: Black Isle.

For people who like painstakingly developing romantic relationships with fictional extraterrestrials: Bioware.

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#35 MUSH_IS_PWNs
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Definetly Bioware though if Bethesda had more than 3 good Elder Scrolls games and Fallout 3 they could probably stand a chance. Black Isle was fantastic but Bioware I think has passed them because they have many more games all of which areabout even with Black Isle's games. On the other hand Obsidian I find to be very mediocre because KotOR 2 wasn't finished, Neverwinter Nights 2 was not as good as the original, and Alpha Protocol is looking pretty bad with the really lame characters who look like a joke, and just plain poor combat. I just really hope Fallout New Vegas turns out well but if any game they make would turn out well for them it would be a new Fallout becuase they made the first 2 Fallout's at Black Isle and they already have the Fallout 3 engine ready to go for them. Just improve the story and add on some new features like vehicles or something and they are ready to go.
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#36 MUSH_IS_PWNs
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[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]No love for Lionhead? I don't think they are the best, but definitely worth mentioning.Mograine

Against the three and a half RPG titans in that list? Not really.

Luckily there's the "other option" for you.

Lionhead is garbage. I mean Peter Molyneux thinks Fable 1 and 2 are too complex! How can a game stay an rpg while being less complex than that.
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#37 jasonharris48
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Black Isle, BioWare, CD project RED

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#38 organic_machine
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While Bioware are truly excellent, they don't even come close to the greatness of Black Isle.

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#39 Gamerz1569
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Black Isle, nuff said.

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#40 KristoffBrujah
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Bioware by a mile. One of the top 3 developers in the world irrespective of genre.

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#41 jrhawk42
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It was hard for me to pick between bioware and bethesda. Basically it came down to the fact Bioware's rpgs are more p&p based while bethesda isn't.

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#42 LookAnDrolL
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Its sad that so many people missed out Black Isle games I hope Obsidian bring some of their past glory with Alpha Protocol and Fallout new vegas
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#43 BattleTurtles
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More people are voting Bethesda than Blizzard? :( Anyway, I voted Black Isle
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#44 Velocitas8
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Of those listed:

BioWare = Black Isle > Bethesda > Blizzard.

If you would've asked me this last year I probably would've put Black Isle above BioWare, but ME2 was really, really impressive. They're doing an amazing job with this IP..can't wait for the next game.

Also, why is Blizzard even up there? Their only RPGs are an action/hack'n'slash franchise and a MMO. Their titles do not even remotely fit in with the others. I do like Blizzard's games more than Bethesda's, but Blizzard does not belong in this comparison, so I put them at the bottom..

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#45 sasapac
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bathesda and then bioware

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#46 chaplainDMK
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Easy...
Fallout 1&2 >>>>>> all

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#47 Planeforger
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Out of those, Black Isle Studios would even win with both arms tied behind their backs (uh, which is to say, easily). But if we're just talking this gen, I wouldn't call any of those the best. Sure, they consistently put out quality products, but they never do anything as interesting as what the smaller companies (like CD Projekt Red) are putting out.
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#48 therancors
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Black Isle, BABY!

in fact, the poll is FULL OF FAIL!

Black Isle are the ones that MADE Baldur's Gate :lol:

xsubtownerx

Umm No? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur's_Gate

It says developed by BioWare. Unless you meant something else?

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#49 Planeforger
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

Black Isle, BABY!

in fact, the poll is FULL OF FAIL!

Black Isle are the ones that MADE Baldur's Gate :lol:

therancors

Umm No? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur's_Gate

It says developed by BioWare. Unless you meant something else?

Black Isle helped with the Baldurs Gate series (Bioware's best games by far), at least with the publishing of them, but they're still Bioware's games...so yeah, no idea what he meant by that.

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#50 Zero5000X
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CD Projekt RED has only made one game but it happens to be one of my favorite RPGs of all time.