Bethesda: Too Late for Nintendo and Wii U Third Party Support

The following comes from Bethesda's Pete Hines...

The time for convincing publishers and developers to support Wii U has long past. The box is out. You have to do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing with us for a long time and it's not that every time we met with them we got all the answers we wanted. But they involved us very early on, and talking to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox, they say here's what were doing, here's what were planning, here's how we think it's going to work to hear what we thought from our tech guys and from an experience standpoint.

You have to spend an unbelievable amount of time upfront doing that. If you're just going sort off deciding were going to make a box and this is how it works and you should make games for it. Well, no. No is my answer, I'm going to focus on other ones that better support what it is we're trying to do. So you've gotta spend more time trying to reach out to those folks before you even make the box, when you're still designing and thinking about how its going to work.

 http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=211328

Whatcha you guys think?

He does have a valid point, Nintendo can't just expect developers to support their console from the outset, they have to communicate about it. But it should hardly stop a developer from developing on a platform an entire generation, they may yet support the WiiU

I agree. Nintendo is too short sighted.

Fisher Price hardware can't handle third party games.

Hmm makes sense. 

But I think they talked to some of them like Ubi and EA

Not missing muchMonsieurX

The wiiu is a patheitc POS crapbox.  They could sell it for $99 and I would still pass.  The only people who care about it are the hardcore nintnedo fanboys and even all of them don't want it.

It was a stupid idea, it's a stupid name, and it has very few games worth playing.  It's time to take it to the back to get shot.

Nintendo needs to shut the wiiu down and reset.  Get serious for a change.

Nintendo did this to themselves. 

It's never too late.. the problem is that a lot of third party games for nintendo consoles are usually trash.

Wii U will be the system for the handful of Nintendo exclusives and 3rd party exclusives from Japanese companies that are close to their "vision".

Everyone should know this by now.

Nintendo just has no clue they run thngs like this is the 90's. There are pc,tablets,smart tv's,cell phones ect all looking for games. You can not just dump hardware on the market and pray devs make games for it.

The wii did numbers but 3rd parties got no support and so nintendo got no games. You would think that this time nintendo would understand what they did wrong and fix it.

Nintendo did this to themselves. 

psymon100

1. At least they're honest
2. Bethesda has never released a game oon a Nintnedo platform so I'm not surprised by that statement
3. Doen't stop me from thinking Bethesda games are boring, dull, and are overall mediocre devs.

On one half, he has a point. The other half, this comes from the same company who never intended to work with Nintendo to begin with, so what's the point of him talking about this?

Nintendo are cheap bastards. If they returned to the SNES model they could be a contender. danten81

1. At least they're honest
2. Bethesda has never released a game oon a Nintnedo platform so I'm not surprised by that statement
3. Doen't stop me from thinking Bethesda games are boring, dull, and are overall mediocre devs.

Seabas989

No matter how great a dev is some people will not like them. However if your a platform owner you need big devs that sell games on yuor platform to increase sales.

Nintendo is still just such a closed platform. Its not even a matter of money, its a matter of willing to cater your hardware to other dvelopers.

[QUOTE="danten81"]Nintendo are cheap bastards. If they returned to the SNES model they could be a contender. nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="danten81"]Nintendo are cheap bastards. If they returned to the SNES model they could be a contender. danten81

I don't know what's more hilarious, Bethesda thinking they're still relevant or that the Wii U gets flak from even the shittiest devs around.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="danten81"]Nintendo are cheap bastards. If they returned to the SNES model they could be a contender. danten81

Nintendo been cutting corners they have no blu-ray,no dts/dd hd, crappy online gaming, no hard drive ect. Now if they stepped they game up and got thrid party support with features even if they had a weak console I would bag one. Instead we got one tablet pad and not much of anything else.

[QUOTE="danten81"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Dude, even the SNES model had issues with third parties. In fact, it was those problems that show a long running issue with them.

no-scope-AK47

Nintendo been cutting corners they have no blu-ray,no dts/dd hd, crappy online gaming, no hard drive ect. Now if they stepped they game up and got thrid party support with features even if they had a weak console I would bag one. Instead we got one tablet pad and not much of anything else.

I agree. Nintendo is too short sighted.

GD1551

The wii eww is absolutely awful. Devs should stay away from that stank shiiyyeet.TheKingIAm

Shame Nintendo refuses to listen and learn. If they did maybe they would have better games on their systems for their customers.Rattlesnake_8

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="danten81"] They were assholes with 3rd parties, but it was the decision to go with carts for the N64 that lost them the developers/games/fanbase. They cut corners because they're cheap and Sony took advantage of that.TheKingIAm

Nintendo been cutting corners they have no blu-ray,no dts/dd hd, crappy online gaming, no hard drive ect. Now if they stepped they game up and got thrid party support with features even if they had a weak console I would bag one. Instead we got one tablet pad and not much of anything else.

Nintendo been cutting corners they have no blu-ray,no dts/dd hd, crappy online gaming, no hard drive ect. Now if they stepped they game up and got thrid party support with features even if they had a weak console I would bag one. Instead we got one tablet pad and not much of anything else.no-scope-AK47

Was anyone ever expecting Bethesda to release games on the Wii U anyway?  They've never supported Nintendo's platforms...and what mythical target audience would buy them there? 

Was anyone ever expecting Bethesda to release games on the Wii U anyway?  They've never supported Nintendo's platforms...and what mythical target audience would buy them there? 

Alpha_S_

The following comes from Bethesda's Pete Hines...

The time for convincing publishers and developers to support Wii U has long past. The box is out. You have to do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing with us for a long time and it's not that every time we met with them we got all the answers we wanted. But they involved us very early on, and talking to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox, they say here's what were doing, here's what were planning, here's how we think it's going to work to hear what we thought from our tech guys and from an experience standpoint.

You have to spend an unbelievable amount of time upfront doing that. If you're just going sort off deciding were going to make a box and this is how it works and you should make games for it. Well, no. No is my answer, I'm going to focus on other ones that better support what it is we're trying to do. So you've gotta spend more time trying to reach out to those folks before you even make the box, when you're still designing and thinking about how its going to work.Trail_Mix

 http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=211328

 

Whatcha you guys think?

Nintendo did market the wii-u as a core gamer's console, at least initially, so marquee games from top-tier devs were expected. MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Nintendo did market the wii-u as a core gamer's console, at least initially, so marquee games from top-tier devs were expected. foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Nintendo did market the wii-u as a core gamer's console, at least initially, so marquee games from top-tier devs were expected. MFDOOM1983

No, they were aiming for the core gamer. http://www.dailytech.com/Wii+U+Looks+to+Attract+Core+Gamers/article22044.htmMFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] No, they marketed it as a console for everyone including core gamers.nintendoboy16

They seemed to have given most third party developers the middle finger [...]MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]No, they were aiming for the core gamer. http://www.dailytech.com/Wii+U+Looks+to+Attract+Core+Gamers/article22044.htmfoxhound_fox

Thanks for playing fakeboy. MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] No, they were aiming for the core gamer. http://www.dailytech.com/Wii+U+Looks+to+Attract+Core+Gamers/article22044.htmMFDOOM1983