bethseda.. RAGE aint done raging

bethseda has come out today and has basically all but teased that a new rage game is in the cards. it is their hope and intent to grow RAGE as a franchise. as for other shooter franchises.. while no specific names were tossed about they are working on something else atm.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/08/its-our-intent-to-make-rage-a-big-franchise-says-bethesda/

good, its got a lot of potential to be honest.Its a good concept but i just cant take to it gameplay wise might give it another bash at some point.

This is old news. iD/Carmack confirmed there was going to be a Rage 2 long ago.

I couldn't get into Rage. I played the first 2 hours of it and found it pretty boring. Plus some of the textures are fugly and the game has no CFX support

This is old news. iD/Carmack confirmed there was going to be a Rage 2 long ago.

ChubbyGuy40

One of the worst ports this gen.JC_Spot

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days (if you got the preview drivers, not sure how long on official drivers)

The only things wrong with Rage are:
TERRIBLE, disjunct, meaningless story
Gimmicky racing crap(hold handsey)
Big technical limitations holding back any hopes of texture quality
Launching w/o a texture cache setting
Extremely minor bug of vsync turning off when you alt tab.
crash on Win7-32bit(which no one should have in the first place)
Lied about giving us idStudio
Disabled console commands(WTF)
Dumb currency system making ammo needlesslyscarce in a game that's got such superb gunplay that all you want to do is shoot.
Clearly mismanaged development

... :D

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

dovberg

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

dovberg

Nope. I enjoyed it quite a lot.

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

Inconsistancy

Good to hear but sadly you are right it did have dumb flaws. Most people say they liked how it reminded them of borderlands and they just wish that it copied it more...which I think is kinda funny.

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]One of the worst ports this gen.Inconsistancy

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days

Why do people type id wrong so often? It's lowercase 'id', not any other combination.

Inconsistancy

iD iD iD iD iD iD iD

Because I know it annoys people who know how it should be.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]One of the worst ports this gen.JC_Spot

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days

I heard complaints from console fans and pc fans about the graphics, and I never had any issues and thought it looked great with my gtx 560

I heard complaints from console fans and pc fans about the graphics, and I never had any issues and thought it looked great with my gtx 560

dovberg

It was mostly AMD cards that had severe issues because of botched drivers. Nvidia was pretty much flawless except for some texture streaming lag.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]One of the worst ports this gen.JC_Spot

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days

Skryim's crashing, flying enemies, npc's falling through the ground... that breaks the game, not a minor graphical quirk.

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]
Uhh no? Play Skyrim then play Rage, see which one has more bugs.

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days

Inconsistancy

Skryim's crashing, flying enemies, npc's falling through the ground... that breaks the game, not a minor graphical quirk.

I utilized ALL the fixes and use an Nvidia card with the latest drivers and textures continuously pop in even when you've already loaded them once.JC_Spot

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]
Uhh no? Play Skyrim then play Rage, see which one has more bugs.

Rage is basically bug-free, its launch was marred by AMD's faulty driver release, which only delayed its functioning 3 days

Inconsistancy

Skryim's crashing, flying enemies, npc's falling through the ground... that breaks the game, not a minor graphical quirk.

meh rage was terrible couldnt even bring myself to even finish it

Oh god....RAGE was such a bad game.ShadowsDemon

I bought this game for $50 at launch, on the PC.

I still regret that purchase greatly. I was anticipating something great from the id name alone, but alas, I was mistaken. It wasn't a bad game per se, just a mediorce one. And I still haven't finished it.

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]I utilized ALL the fixes and use an Nvidia card with the latest drivers and textures continuously pop in even when you've already loaded them once.Inconsistancy

Rage is a P.O.S. Game was one of the boggest flops in recent memory. There is a reason it dropped to $19.99 in less than 2 months. Over-hyped trash. The game was a looker for sure but it was basically Borderlands, with a worse story, without the weapon mods. Also the world in Rage was quite small. Even the multiplayer was dull. I give it a 5/10 and that is being nice.

rage was good, i just wish they'd drop the car parts.

I bought Rage a few days ago.

My brother's been playing it. It looks awesome.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="JC_Spot"]I utilized ALL the fixes and use an Nvidia card with the latest drivers and textures continuously pop in even when you've already loaded them once.JC_Spot

It's not like Carmack admitted he doesn't think PC is the best platform for playing games, or that he blamed the bugs due to his own lack of effort on the PC version entirely on the shoulders of Nvidia or AMD.

No, clearly it's my fault and id have released a well optimized, quality piece of software for the PC.

I remember complaints about animations, but this was AMD's drivers being broken. So id in one patch disabled one, then in a later one, re-enabled them, once AMD had their crap together.

The launch was sloppy, but if you can't figure out how to get the game working now, you need to just step away from the computer and find a hobby that requires less active brain cells.

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

Inconsistancy

Really enjoyed Rage.

Great. If they can just build a game around that awesome shotgun, they'd be alright.

It's an interesting game they just need to flesh it out more. I thought it was ok.

Since the game ended at the point where any other game would be halfway through, I'm not surprised.

It had the biggest, worst cliffhanger ever.

I enjoyed Rage, thought it was good fun. No where near perfect but good fun all the same.

All devs need to sort out this nonsense and develope their games with PC as the lead platform and scale back for the console release. It easier to cut back than it is to scale up a final product, that way everyone gets the best possible product.

Cool new. I really had fun with Rage. It has a lot of potential to be a good series.

It easier to cut back than it is to scale up a final product, that way everyone gets the best possible product.

GarGx1

Am I the only person who actually liked RAGE?

dovberg

Nope.

Loved it.

Want more.

bethseda has come out today and has basically all but teased that a new rage game is in the cards. it is their hope and intent to grow RAGE as a franchise. as for other shooter franchises.. while no specific names were tossed about they are working on something else atm.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/08/its-our-intent-to-make-rage-a-big-franchise-says-bethesda/

ionusX

Doom 4 first :(

Doom 4 first :(

dream431ca

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Doom 4 first :(

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Doom 4 first :(

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]
Then you suck at life, not my, or id's, problem.Inconsistancy

It's not like Carmack admitted he doesn't think PC is the best platform for playing games, or that he blamed the bugs due to his own lack of effort on the PC version entirely on the shoulders of Nvidia or AMD.

No, clearly it's my fault and id have released a well optimized, quality piece of software for the PC.

I remember complaints about animations, but this was AMD's drivers being broken. So id in one patch disabled one, then in a later one, re-enabled them, once AMD had their crap together.

The launch was sloppy, but if you can't figure out how to get the game working now, you need to just step away from the computer and find a hobby that requires less active brain cells.

I picked up a new copy at a severe discount, and in my experience it's been excellent. It deserved to do better.

I'd be willing to give it a shot. I remember being put off by the reviews. But I also remember most issues being of a potentially temporary nature (bugs and technicalities).
Never gave it a second chance. Then again I never saw it for less than 50.

I did apply all the fixes, including adding the cache file and trying numerous different config alterations, none of which completely solved the problem. Carmack can say whatever he wants but he knew he was selling garbage on launch day and he only says he regrets focusing on consoles to save face. The only question I have is why are you acting as an apologist for a guy who gimped the base he built his success off? Seriously, look up shoddy console port in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of RAGE.JC_Spot

---Apologies, and flaws

I'm not an apologist for id, I defend what they did right, and I criticize them for what they've done wrong (just as I do with Blizzard, or any other of my favorite devs).

It's flawed, sure, but it's not broken in the ways you go after, but these things are:

1. TERRIBLE, disjunct, meaningless story
2. Gimmicky racing crap(hold handsey)
3. Big technical limitations holding back any hopes of texture quality
4. Clearly mismanaged development/developing in a vacuum/ivory tower
5. Extremely minor bug of vsync turning off when you alt tab.
6. Lied about giving us idStudioand 64bit client(disgusting lie)
7. Disabled console commands(WTF)
8. Dumb currency system making ammo needlessly scarce in a game that's got such superb gunplay that all you want to do is shoot.
9. Launching w/o texture cache setting (see 4)
10. Uniteresting level design
11. Inconsistent texture quality(due to surface area and the mega texture)
12. Horrible boss design
13. Mouse movement in menus for some people(including me) is messed up as hell(same with any id game)
14. No mod support

What's good about Rage?

• Stable
• Consistent art style
• Beautiful animations(some of the best in any game)
• Great gunplay
• Great sound
• Good VA

Wow... such an ardent defender I am.

At the time of Rage's release, and even now, it was extremely uncommon to have >1gb ofvram, that game's tech would require about 2 to make a visually notable increase in its texture quality above the current consoles and need 2 more to cache up enough textures to prevent constant popping every time you turn around. I don't personally see it as a very good tech, it's too limited in my eyes.

And yes, at QuakeCon he was clearly reserved about the game in many ways, so he knew there were flaws, but he didn't know the launch was going to fall flat on its face though, that was all on AMD. He warned constantly that PC had issues with overhead, throughout interviews, and that it'd have popping issues that the console versions(specifically the 360) wouldn't have due to non-standardized memory arcitecture(which I can't confirm as the truth). He wasn't selling garbage, he was selling id quality mismanagement. (lol)

---A brief history of id

id is screwed up in many ways, ever since Doom3(even Q3A tbh) they've been mismanaging the hell out of their development and doing so from an ivory tower. Q3's success was a luck of the draw, they hit a time where people wanted a MP only fps, but that wasn't good development, it was a rush job. I don't know what you were expecting out of Rage, but you shouldn't have had your bar so damn high considering id's history of crappy development and never making a game worth better than 8.5.

---Porting

But, Rage isn't a shoddy port, it's a very solid port, but a port none the less. There's nothing in the rules of porting that says "You must make the game substantially better on the new platform". Sure you can 'expect' and feel 'entitled' to a better port, 'cause id was a PC first dev, but that's not in the rules.

Rules of porting: The game must work and it's nice to have additional features

BioWare's ports are all kinda lazy, they take away the ui/mechanics for gamepads(odd as hell) don't update the textures and don't support modding(which I hate)

HaloCE is a pretty lazy port, the animations are baked at 30fps, so if you have hardware to push 60 well, sad day for you, it'll look like crap.

If you want to know the dictionary entry for a 'bad port' well, here it is.

I think we can all agree....

THAT THEY SHOULD GIVE UP WITH THAT MEDIOCRE FRANCHISE AND START DOOM