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#51 mitu123
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Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

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#52 Rockman999
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If people can call Battlefield 3 a "really ugly" game, they haven't played enough ugly games.

WTA2k5

...or maybe Bf3 is the first game they've played without semen covering their eyes? :P

I like the aesthetics of BF3, it's soft on the eyes while still being visually stunning, even on the brobox.

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#53 homeboylizard
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Oh, God, why, but why does every "graphics thread" needs to end up with badly modded crysis 2 pics in bad resolution?

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#54 kozzy1234
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Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

mitu123

And thats all she wrote folks... thread was fun while it lasted

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#55 Elann2008
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BF3 and Crysis 2 share the same color grading and hues. Heavy on the BLUE! Only on certain maps though. NOT ALL.

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#56 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

kozzy1234

And thats all she wrote folks... thread was fun while it lasted

What's funny is that it only applies to certain maps, I mean, is there any blue shading in this shot?

Or this?

Or even this?

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#57 Elann2008
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^ Yeah, it's only certain maps. But I must admit, I prefer the color grading in BF3's Alpha stage, more so than the final version. Other than that, it's fine. Doesn't bother me that much. Crysis 2 bothered me more with its blur-effects.
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#58 Peredith
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Mitu, why do you resize your pics? :(

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#59 Rocker6
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Yeah I had that problem too.

A lot of developers seem to ignore art design for raw power, and I feel like BF3 could have done more in being more visually striking with the way they presented colors and environments instead of just making it a big, beautiful game. Same for Crysis 2, they really need to add a little more color, a little more unique flavor to the world.

Uncharted 2 might not be as technically impressive as Crysis (ok it ISN'T as technically impressive as Crysis), but its a gorgeous game that gets a lot of juice from the PS3, and it ALSO manages to use an awesome artistic st.yle that makes it look even better.

Still, I'm not complaining too much. I don't go into BF3 expecting Okami levels of beauty, I just want to jump in a jeep and shoot lots of guys in the face.

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I fully agree,UC2 really has a very powerful art design,and overall,graphics look beautiful.Strong aesthetics improved by great graphics pushing PS3 capabilities very far.Really a great proof how strong engine isn't everything,imagination and will to create are much more important.I wonder how will UC3 stack up,will play it in a few weeks...

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#60 Rocker6
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Mitu,

no,there isn't any blue shade on those pictures,but still,the colors and the enviroment look very bland,no contrast,lack of any stronger colors,very generic design.

Now,Frostbyte 2 is a very advanced and powerful engine full of potential to create,especially on PC,howewer,almost none of it was used in BF3.Its clearly a game made just to cash in,developer clearly wasn't allowed to express himself in any way,the fact is,aesthetics are really,really bad.Graphics are great,but graphics alone don't make a game look good and immersive to the eye.

Now,BF3 is a military shooter,and we OFC can't expect powerfull art design or anything,but we can expect at least a good color pallete,something I haven't seen in BF3,it all looks somehow...monotone...

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#61 jun_aka_pekto
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Yeah I had that problem too.

A lot of developers seem to ignore art design for raw power, and I feel like BF3 could have done more in being more visually striking with the way they presented colors and environments instead of just making it a big, beautiful game. Same for Crysis 2, they really need to add a little more color, a little more unique flavor to the world.

Uncharted 2 might not be as technically impressive as Crysis (ok it ISN'T as technically impressive as Crysis), but its a gorgeous game that gets a lot of juice from the PS3, and it ALSO manages to use an awesome artistic st.yle that makes it look even better.

Still, I'm not complaining too much. I don't go into BF3 expecting Okami levels of beauty, I just want to jump in a jeep and shoot lots of guys in the face.

SPYDER0416

Some games work fine with art design. There are other games where technical design works better especially when there is an effort at being "realistic". Both Crysis 2 and BF3 are examples of the latter because of the emphasis on technology. Whether they appeal to someone or not is left to individual taste. Quite frankly, I don't see one design approach being worse than the other.

Tastes can also vary from person to person.

I find more beauty in this screenshot than any other game (Crysis, Crysis 2, BF3, UC3, you name it) although few would know or understand why:

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#62 kraken2109
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BF3 looks great.

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#63 mitu123
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Mitu, why do you resize your pics? :(

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Because I want to save bandwidth, pics are huge in mbs, plus huge pics aren't needed to make a point like this.
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#64 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Mitu, why do you resize your pics? :(

mitu123

Because I want to save bandwidth, pics are huge in mbs, plus huge pics aren't needed to make a point like this.

Just save them as a high quality jpeg instead of png. I've literally only seen once instance in all the pictures I've posted where I could pick out the difference (and in that one case it was a huge difference, jpeg messed up the colors something terrible).

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#65 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

Mitu, why do you resize your pics? :(

topgunmv

Because I want to save bandwidth, pics are huge in mbs, plus huge pics aren't needed to make a point like this.

Just save them as a high quality jpeg instead of png. I've literally only seen once instance in all the pictures I've posted where I could pick out the difference (and in that one case it was a huge difference, jpeg messed up the colors something terrible).

I normally prefer png without having to alter the quality but maybe I should do jpeg again, hope the colors aren't affected though.

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#66 Jebus213
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Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

mitu123

I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

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#67 WithoutGraceXII
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Looks good to my eyes.
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#68 Lethalhazard
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It's called a color harmony -- where a palette resides on one section of the color spectrum. Looks fine to me.
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#69 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

Jebus213

I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

It's barely even there.:|

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#70 The_Pacific
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I thought BF3 looks awesome (graphics king)
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#71 silversix_
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Absolutely agree. That stupid filter is annoying as ****. Wish it was possible to remove this crap, the game would've looked much better.
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#72 danish-death
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Look at this and tell me which one looks better...

topgunmv

This one looks the best tbh.

Looks like somewhere you would go for a vacation, not a place of war.

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#73 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Look at this and tell me which one looks better...

danish-death

This one looks the best tbh.

Looks like somewhere you would go for a vacation, not a place of war.

That's generally par for the course when it comes to tropical islands.

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#74 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Look at this and tell me which one looks better...

danish-death

This one looks the best tbh.

Looks like somewhere you would go for a vacation, not a place of war.

I'd like to post some 1080p war pics I pulled off of "The Chan"...but....you know. But here's the actual Island where the battle took place.

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#75 jun_aka_pekto
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I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

Jebus213

You're probably one of those who's blessed with great color vision. I'm not. I mean I can see what you mean with BF3 on one of the island shots. I can't see it with Crysis 2. The color grading on the latter seems much more subtle.

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#76 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

jun_aka_pekto

You're probably one of those who's blessed with great color vision. I'm not. I mean I can see what you mean with BF3 on one of the island shots. I can't see it with Crysis 2. The color grading on the latter seems much more subtle.

Crysis 2 has horrible Color Grading that makes everything a deep shade of green and everything looks grainy. I don't know about you but I prefer actual color. Put r_colorgrading 0 in the command console in C2 and you'll see. I see it in a lot of other upcoming games running on Cryengine 3...

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#77 jun_aka_pekto
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Crysis 2 has horrible Color Grading that makes everything a deep shade of green and everything looks grainy. I don't know about you but I prefer actual color. Put r_colorgrading 0 in the command console in C2 and you'll see. I see it in a lot of other upcoming games running on Cryengine 3...

Jebus213

I did try that command. The only thing I detected that changed was the shading on the sky. It didn't do much for the buildings or the ground (which seemed fine to me). My eyes are not very keen to subtle color differences.

Edit. Antialiasing also has the effect of making things blurry/grainy. I have regular 4xAA enabled on all my screenies.That even my eyes can see. :lol:

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#78 jun_aka_pekto
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It could also be an environmental effect Crytek is using although I'm not sure what. I do know if I limit maximum visibility in a game like say, FSX, I get what looks like color grading.

Lower visibility, around 20 miles(?) (terrain over Oregon USA). Lots of blue:

Visibility at 30 miles (Australia). Still got blue coverage:

Visibility at 40 miles. The only blue I see is on the top fringes in the distance:

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#79 Jebus213
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I did try that command. The only thing I detected that changed was the shading on the sky. It didn't do much for the buildings or the ground (which seemed fine to me). My eyes are not very keen to subtle color differences.

Edit. Antialiasing also has the effect of making things blurry/grainy. I have regular 4xAA enabled on all my screenies.That even my eyes can see. :lol:

jun_aka_pekto

 

You really are clueless aren't you? And a complete hell no to your second post... This is C1 with the differences of color grading on and off.

This video really shows off the GREEN color grading in Crysis 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceD-t3i5HOM

 

 

 

 

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#80 Peredith
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Color grading in Crysis 1 makes a huuuuge difference.

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#81 jun_aka_pekto
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You really are clueless aren't you? And a complete hell no to your second post... This is C1 with the differences of color grading on and off.

This video really shows off the GREEN color grading in Crysis 2:

Jebus213

Of course I'm clueless if I can barely see the damn thing. But, let me get back with you in a bit. I'll try it again with crysis 2.

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#82 jun_aka_pekto
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Sun ahead:

r_colorgrading 1:

r_colorgrading 0:

Sun behind:

r_colorgrading 1:

r_colorgrading 0:

The only difference I can see if is the sun is behind or ahead.

Edit: Sorry. I clean out my imageshack files every few days.

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#83 jun_aka_pekto
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The only thing the color grading shows to me is whether the image looks "warmer" or "cooler". To be honest, I prefer "cooler" colors.

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#84 HaloPimp978
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The buildings could have more detail, but it's not a big deal IMO.

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#85 nutcrackr
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I think BF3 is the best looking game ever made. It still manages to wow me visually after 50hrs of online play.
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#86 jun_aka_pekto
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The buildings could have more detail, but it's not a big deal IMO.

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The main issue is Crysis 2 is supposed to have a green color grading. On my shots and during gameplay, I only see the green tint when the sun is ahead. When the sun is behind, I'm hard-pressed to see where the color grading is. Perhaps, it's my eyes. I don't know.

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#87 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

Jebus213

I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

Maybe it's your monitor.
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#88 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

Bebi_vegeta

I can still see it. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

Maybe it's your monitor.

Nope. I see the color grading on every map. Also B2K is a gray fest...
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#89 Bebi_vegeta
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Alright, this makes more sense... So I guess it's not pink enough for you.
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#90 nameless12345
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I've seen worse (KillZone 1 for example).

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#91 Jebus213
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Alright, this makes more sense... So I guess it's not pink enough for you.Bebi_vegeta
Sorry I don't get consumed by hype and defend every aspect of the game to death. Someone has been messing with the FXAA injector. I can't wait get my hands on them. Just look, grass is green!!!!
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#92 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Alright, this makes more sense... So I guess it's not pink enough for you.Jebus213
Sorry I don't get consumed by hype and defend every aspect of the game to death. Someone has been messing with the FXAA injector. I can't wait get my hands on them. Just look, grass is green!!!!

OMG, this is real???

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#93 mitu123
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Hmm, the mod sure does change the colors:

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#94 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Where's the blue shading in this shot?

Not to mention that's like one multiplayer map you picked where it's noticeable.

mitu123

And thats all she wrote folks... thread was fun while it lasted

What's funny is that it only applies to certain maps, I mean, is there any blue shading in this shot?

Or this?

Or even this?

yes, there is or at least a "dark" shade

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#95 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

And thats all she wrote folks... thread was fun while it lasted

parkurtommo

What's funny is that it only applies to certain maps, I mean, is there any blue shading in this shot?

Or this?

Or even this?

yes, there is or at least a "dark" shade

And they look nothing like the TC's 1st pic in which he is implying the entire game has that exact same shade.

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#96 Jebus213
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OMG, this is real???mitu123
Wasn't looking for real. Just want to be able to "SEE".
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#97 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] What's funny is that it only applies to certain maps, I mean, is there any blue shading in this shot?

Or this?

Or even this?

mitu123

yes, there is or at least a "dark" shade

And they look nothing like the TC's 1st pic in which he is implying the entire game has that exact same shade.

They all have the exact same shade. I at least notice it regardless.
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#98 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] yes, there is or at least a "dark" shade

Jebus213

And they look nothing like the TC's 1st pic in which he is implying the entire game has that exact same shade.

They all have the exact same shade.

Then why do some look better/worse than others? Definitely when the map you posted has the worst of it.
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#99 Jebus213
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Then why do some look better/worse than others? Definitely when the map you posted has the worst of it.mitu123
None of them look good to me in any way. What ever color grading they're using whether it being blue, green, or red is terrible. Did you see that B2K pic of Karkand I posted?
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#100 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Then why do some look better/worse than others? Definitely when the map you posted has the worst of it.Jebus213
None of them look good to me in any way. What ever color grading they're using whether it being blue, green, or red is terrible. Did you see that B2K pic of Karkand I posted?

Yes, I saw it, but the mod looks better.