Big Boss to be Focus in 'Metal Gear Solid 5'?

So Metal Gear Solid 4 is out, but as we've reported before, it isn't the last Metal Gear game.

Kojima Production's Ryan Payton explains, "There are some misunderstandings that this is the final Metal Gear game. But it's really the final chapter of the Solid Snake story. That's all."

What's left to do? Well, according to Payton, there is "still a lot of room for filling in the gaps as far as Big Boss is concerned."

But will we see another game with Big Boss as the protagonist? Hit the break for my thoughts, but there are spoilers for Metal Gear Solid 4 beyond this point.

I'm thinking that Payton could be being sneaky about the gaps regarding Big Boss. One of them could be the story of how his body was recovered and ended up with Eva. If you recall from MGS4, this was kind of glazed over and not really detailed. At least, not to the degree that everything else was explained.

We also have Raiden, whose role in MGS4 is mysterious and brief, as far as characters go. There was a lot of action that we missed like his transformation into the cybernetic ninja, rescue of Sunn,y and his retrieval of Big Boss' body.

I'm guessing we could see a "prequel" of Raiden's story between MGS2 and MGS4.

Big Boss' army building fun was already covered in Portable Ops, but we could see his creation of Outer Haven. Now that we know he ultimately wanted to uphold The Boss' dream a game about Big Boss' creation of his mercenary society could be viewed in a positive light. Previously, it would have been playing as the bad guy.

What do you think Metal Gear Solid 5 will be about?

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If Microsoft was smart enuff, they would dip inside of the piggy bank now to try and this this on the 360 after seeing what MGS4 did.

i think the metal gear SOLID line is over

the next one will prob just keep the'metal gear' bit .. like metal gear raiden for example

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

i think the metal gear SOLID line is over

the next one will prob just keep the'metal gear' bit .. like metal gear raiden for example

akif22

You're really trying to push that game, aren't you? :P

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

hmac777

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

The 3 eggs Sunny cooks at the very end of the credits looked familiar... almost like the 3 lights on Raiden's visor. That alone has me convinced we'll be seeing some kickass ninja stealth action in the next game set in the MGS universe. And I can't wait... I may even like Raiden (the new one, anyway) better than Snake.

[QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

donalbane

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

The 3 eggs Sunny cooks at the very end of the credits looked familiar... almost like the 3 lights on Raiden's visor. That alone has me convinced we'll be seeing some kickass ninja stealth action in the next game set in the MGS universe. And I can't wait... I may even like Raiden (the new one, anyway) better than Snake.

LOL, wow I think you might be reading into the eggs thing a little too much. It could also symbolize all three snakes or Otacon, Sunny and Snake. Or it could just be three eggs.

[QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

donalbane

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

The 3 eggs Sunny cooks at the very end of the credits looked familiar... almost like the 3 lights on Raiden's visor. That alone has me convinced we'll be seeing some kickass ninja stealth action in the next game set in the MGS universe. And I can't wait... I may even like Raiden (the new one, anyway) better than Snake.

Blasphemy.

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

You play as Big Boss in Metal Gear for the PSP

This thread has massive spoilers, its a good job ive completed MGS4, Thread needs a spoiler tag IMO.

As for a potential MGS5, id love it if it covered the Cobras and The Boss in the WW2 Era and Raiden inbetween MGS2 and MGS4.

Kojima went out of his way to bash us over the head, with Raiden's awesomeness, almost to the point it was comical. I can't see MG5 being anything but Raiden as the main character. I've had enough with Boss, Big boss, big Mama, zero,etc... I think the post credit epilogue actually hurt the ending of 4. At that point I really didn't care much for the back story I've been told a thousand times over.

I'm looking forward to a fresh start with the next installment.

Big Boss + Frank Jaeger and his journey to earn the title Grey Fox plus the recruitment of the original Foxhound members all the way until the saving of Winter Wolf and Psycho Mantis (don't remember if he was taken in by Big Boss)

I don't want anything that comes after MGS4only things that come before, as much fun as it would be to use Raiden I think I'd prefer being Frank Jaeger.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

Javy03

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

The 3 eggs Sunny cooks at the very end of the credits looked familiar... almost like the 3 lights on Raiden's visor. That alone has me convinced we'll be seeing some kickass ninja stealth action in the next game set in the MGS universe. And I can't wait... I may even like Raiden (the new one, anyway) better than Snake.

LOL, wow I think you might be reading into the eggs thing a little too much. It could also symbolize all three snakes or Otacon, Sunny and Snake. Or it could just be three eggs.

Kojima went out of his way to bash us over the head, with Raiden's awesomeness, almost to the point it was comical. I can't see MG5 being anything but Raiden as the main character. I've had enough with Boss, Big boss, big Mama, zero,etc... I think the post credit epilogue actually hurt the ending of 4. At that point I really didn't care much for the back story I've been told a thousand times over.

I'm looking forward to a fresh start with the next installment.

dru26

I'd be willing to play as Raiden even if he wasnt a ninja. I liked his character in MGS2.

Well........ I sure hope they get rid of the SOLID part of the name, I will be a litte angry if the next game is called MGS5:_______ and doesn't feature Snake, but has SOLID in the name. MGS3 did it also.

But for people asking for a Raiden game:

[spoiler] Raiden isn't a cyborg ninja anymore, at the end of MGS4 hes human and normal again. So if the game were cyborg raiden action, it would half to be between MGS2 and 4. [/spoiler]

What I personally want is a game to feature the Boss and her and the Cobra units mission in WW2. A full sneaking mission is WW2.

Or maybe a "MGS filler" game, where all loose ends are tied up, it stats with the boss, and you play as her, then goes to how big boss make outer haven, then the stuff between MGS2 and 4.

MGS4 should be the last in the series, any more after would just be milking the franchise. MGS4 ended the series well. Best ending ever. We basically know all the answers to the story. A Raiden story wouldn't work cause in that time period he was just an emo alcholic and a Big Boss prequel... Whats the point, we know all there is to know about him. I doubt there is ever going to be an MGS5, if Kojima starts getting death threats again then maybe. But for a long while it looks like he wants to make lots of new games. And I'd rather him do that.

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

ummm *spoliers* big boss dies in MGS4, as does snake, zero and everyone else onvolved with the patriots. unless they go back (like with mgs 3) you wont play as them.

MGS4 should be the last in the series, any more after would just be milking the franchise. MGS4 ended the series well. Best ending ever. We basically know all the answers to the story. A Raiden story wouldn't work cause in that time period he was just an emo alcholic and a Big Boss prequel... Whats the point, we know all there is to know about him. I doubt there is ever going to be an MGS5, if Kojima starts getting death threats again then maybe. But for a long while it looks like he wants to make lots of new games. And I'd rather him do that.

FloWeN-UK

How about Raiden saving Sunny from the Patriots. That would definatly work.

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

He was anyway! He just had girly hair!

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

ash10692

He was anyway! He just had girly hair!

I agree. At first I disliked Raiden, but as the game progressed, I began to like him a lot.

Although, I dont think the naked thing at the end of the game helped his image for a lot of people Lol.

Jack the Ripper. Badass.

Or maybe a new clone of Solid that nobody ever knew about. Seriously, I wouldn't put anything past Kojima.Zoso-8

I don't think you can clone clones. And if there was another clone of Big Boss, he would most likely be suffering from the rapid aging as well. That would mean he would be as old as Solid.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

CubanBlunt

You play as Big Boss in Metal Gear for the PSP

I know, and in MGS3.

I'm simply saying you already know how most of it ends, so it wont be as special as it has been.

I like Big Boss though.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

hmac777

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

SPOILERS

I would love to play as him before he is shown with his family with both arms again. It would kick untold amounts of ass if you could play as him with the sword in his mouth.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

firebreathing

ummm *spoliers* CENSORED.

Uh I beat the game, but thanks for posting spoilers for the people on here who want to play the game. Real nice.

You can only play through the game once without knowing how it ends, and now those who just read your comment and havent played it yet cant. Way to go!

[QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

Lemmywinks_360

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

I would love to play as him before CENSORED.

lol Dude why is everyone posting spoilers??? Just because the game is more than a week old doesnt mean everyone's beat it!

I'm glad I beat it a couple days ago, geesh!

Or maybe a new clone of Solid that nobody ever knew about. Seriously, I wouldn't put anything past Kojima.Zoso-8

...gaseous snake

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Or maybe a new clone of Solid that nobody ever knew about. Seriously, I wouldn't put anything past Kojima.Lemmywinks_360

...gaseous snake

Aqueous Snake

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Or maybe a new clone of Solid that nobody ever knew about. Seriously, I wouldn't put anything past Kojima.SOedipus

...gaseous snake

Aqueous Snake

Soft Snake

I really hope they have no more clones though, seriously.

I can tolerate Big Boss... and Snake... and Liquid. No more though. Just because Snake wont be in the next game doesnt mean I'll feel more comfortable playing as a guy who looks like Snake that isnt Big Boss. Just pass the torch to someone else. Leave Big Boss and his genes alone for now, lol.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

I would love to play as him before CENSORED.

lol Dude why is everyone posting spoilers??? Just because the game is more than a week old doesnt mean everyone's beat it!

I'm glad I beat it a couple days ago, geesh!

sry.:( Ill edit my other. I just thought that this thread was going to have a ton of spoilers anyway.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

Lemmywinks_360

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

I would love to play as him before CENSORED.

lol Dude why is everyone posting spoilers??? Just because the game is more than a week old doesnt mean everyone's beat it!

I'm glad I beat it a couple days ago, geesh!

sry.:( Ill edit my other. I just thought that this thread was going to have a ton of spoilers anyway.

lol I didnt mean to sound harsh. Sorry for that. :)

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Or maybe a new clone of Solid that nobody ever knew about. Seriously, I wouldn't put anything past Kojima.SOedipus

...gaseous snake

Aqueous Snake

Melting snake?

Well I am happy there will be another great game

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="hmac777"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I wouldnt mind playing as Big Boss... but knowing how the story ends with him wont make it nearly as special.

I loved how in MGS4 they incorporated everybody in it. Like Snake needed help for a change. Raiden is a bad arse now.

carljohnson3456

Its pretty ironic, everyone dissed Raiden in mgs2, but now i bet people who love to play a Raiden game

I would love to play as him before CENSORED.

lol Dude why is everyone posting spoilers??? Just because the game is more than a week old doesnt mean everyone's beat it!

I'm glad I beat it a couple days ago, geesh!

sry.:( Ill edit my other. I just thought that this thread was going to have a ton of spoilers anyway.

lol I didnt mean to sound harsh. Sorry for that. :)

your fine. I wasnt thinking that everyone hasnt beaten it yet. Ive beaten it twice so far( marathoning them both)8)

your fine. I wasnt thinking that everyone hasnt beaten it yet. Ive beaten it twice so far( marathoning them both)8)Lemmywinks_360

lol That's the best way to do it man. I beat it the other day, and I am really aching to replay it. I just cant bring myself to firing up MGS4 without wanting to do MGO, lol. I'm really enjoying the online portion.