big time eastern developers are falling off the map fast!

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#1 kobraka1
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just looking at games from japan it is pretty obvious that companies are either struggling or taking this generation off. lets take a look and see.

konami- yes they brung out MGS4 and a bunch of PES games, they hired a team out of konami to do the new castlevania game. i honestly cannot think of anything else they have done.

namco- a step back in soulcalibur and a big step back in the horrible tekken 6. they did a ridge racer a while back. they are publishing enslaved. they are redoing time crysis for some reason. where are the games?

atlus- people like them for some reason even though they have never made a game worth talking about on PS3 or 360.

sega- yes they bring out a good game a year but all their other big titles they just published. sega now compared to 15 years ago is depressing.

square-enix- their only good games are on DS.

mistwalker- blue dragon and lost oddyssey were good for what they were (im not a big fan of JRPG's so please do not be offended), but they have dissappeared and let the blue dragon franchise go to crap on DS.

NINTENDO- STILL REHASHING OLD FRANCHISES!!!! yes the games are good but what new IP's have we got? wii music, wii play, wii sports, and wii sports resort. gee, thanks nintendo. plus twilght princess, mario kart, and animal crossing were steps backwards.

capcom- still good. actually they are the best out east. but why gey unproven guys to make games for you? dead rising 2 and bionic commando being made by unproven devs? makes no sense. but with the fighting games and the incredible zach and wiki, capcom still has it.

now i know those who think they are hardcore (you know who you are, you all are the ones who claim godhand was good and praise tim shaffer) will say im dumb but look at what the western devs and even the eastern eurpoean guys are doing.

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#2 lamprey263
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they could easily make games for the Xbox 360... but they don't want to, and the PS3 is too difficult and costly to program for, besides the obvious choice would be to make Wii games since it has a install base that's like half the current generation's market... but then they don't buy third party games, probably why we see Japanese developers making more DS and PSP games these days over ones for next gen consoles (minus the big companies)
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#3 finalstar2007
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Dude you complain too much tbh

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#4 MFDOOM1983
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Development costs for consoles are to high for them so they make handheld games. Explains the high sells for ds and psp over there.
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#5 mbrockway
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Namco-Bandai put out Tales of Vesperia and Ace Combat. But I'm still pissed at them because they haven't released them for PS3 in the US (I bought a 360 for Vesperia). How can these jerks complain about sales when they don't even bother to release the games?
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#6 markinthedark
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eastern developers are having difficulty keeping up with the times. They will likely need to learn to adapt to a western audience or die off.

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atlus- people like them for some reason even though they have never made a game worth talking about on PS3 or 360.

kobraka1

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#9 Fr0st3d
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That is because they make so much kid game when the average gamer is like 25. If its not kids game it's game like final fantasy that has weird character that no one can relate to
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[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

atlus- people like them for some reason even though they have never made a game worth talking about on PS3 or 360.

Nocturnal_Speed

Stopped reading here...

truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.
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Gamers have become more narrow-minded these days. If it's not FPS or TPS, chances are it won't sell too well (unless it's a well known franchise).
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#12 Nocturnal_Speed
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[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

atlus- people like them for some reason even though they have never made a game worth talking about on PS3 or 360.

kobraka1

Stopped reading here...

truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.

Must of missed the Game of the Year in '09, it's cool bra.

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NINTENDO- STILL REHASHING OLD FRANCHISES!!!! yes the games are good but what new IP's have we got? wii music, wii play, wii sports, and wii sports resort. gee, thanks nintendo. plus twilght princess, mario kart, and animal crossing were steps backwards.kobraka1

If masterpieces such as SMG1 and 2 are considered rehashes then I'm all in for more rehashes.

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[QUOTE="kobraka1"][QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

Stopped reading here...

Nocturnal_Speed

truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.

Must of missed the Game of the Year in '09, it's cool bra.

oh you are talking about demons souls. the game developed by from software and published by sony in japan right? yeah bra. atlus got the rights from sony and released it here. i guess you are right then huh. atlus put there name on the paper and paid to get it shipped. damn they are brilliant! or you can think this way.....there is a reason JRPG's are dead if the game isnt called final fantasy. and seeing how bad FF13 was it is probably dead too.

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#15 SilentlyMad
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Dude you complain too much tbh

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[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

[QUOTE="kobraka1"] truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.kobraka1

Must of missed the Game of the Year in '09, it's cool bra.

oh you are talking about demons souls. the game developed by from software and published by sony in japan right? yeah bra. atlus got the rights from sony and released it here. i guess you are right then huh. atlus put there name on the paper and paid to get it shipped. damn they are brilliant! or you can think this way.....there is a reason JRPG's are dead if the game isnt called final fantasy. and seeing how bad FF13 was it is probably dead too.

Demons Souls got greatest hits status. Pretty damn brilliant of them I'd say. And fairly f*ckt*rded of Sony.
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[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

Must of missed the Game of the Year in '09, it's cool bra.

mbrockway

oh you are talking about demons souls. the game developed by from software and published by sony in japan right? yeah bra. atlus got the rights from sony and released it here. i guess you are right then huh. atlus put there name on the paper and paid to get it shipped. damn they are brilliant! or you can think this way.....there is a reason JRPG's are dead if the game isnt called final fantasy. and seeing how bad FF13 was it is probably dead too.

Demons Souls got greatest hits status. Pretty damn brilliant of them I'd say. And fairly f*ckt*rded of Sony.

but again atlus had nothing to do with making the game. and yeah. game is good.
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Atlus has been pretty epic this generation.

Re-booting of the Persona franchise with Persona 3 and forward. They created both Trauma Team and Etrian Odyssey. They've also published a ton of fantastic games so far like Izuna, Luminous Arc, Knights in the Nightmare, SMT:DS, The Dark Spire, Hexys Force.

They have moved strongly into the HD consoles the last few year with publishing deals of Zeno Clash, Demon's Souls, 3D Dot Game Heroes.

I don't know what you are talking about.

Sega is also doing really good right now. With games like Yakuza, Sonic and Sega Racing, Valkyria Chronicles, Napoleon: Total War. And published games like Resonance of Fate, Bayonetta and Vanquish. That's only this year.

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[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

atlus- people like them for some reason even though they have never made a game worth talking about on PS3 or 360.

kobraka1

Stopped reading here...

truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.

Atlus hardly "sucks" they have one of the highest regarded JRPG franchises (Megaten). Yeah they didn't focus on the current gen systems until just recently. However, they've made plenty of good/great titles for the PSP, DS and PS2.

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▲ I dunno man, Capcom is begining to lose it to. RE5 was a letdown and look at what they're doing to Devil May Cry. ▲

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[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"]

[QUOTE="kobraka1"] truth hurts? atlus sucks dude. thats the way it is. but..........trauma center is great. ill give them that.kobraka1

Must of missed the Game of the Year in '09, it's cool bra.

oh you are talking about demons souls. the game developed by from software and published by sony in japan right? yeah bra. atlus got the rights from sony and released it here. i guess you are right then huh. atlus put there name on the paper and paid to get it shipped. damn they are brilliant! or you can think this way.....there is a reason JRPG's are dead if the game isnt called final fantasy. and seeing how bad FF13 was it is probably dead too.

From Software is a Japanese company
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[QUOTE="mbrockway"][QUOTE="kobraka1"] oh you are talking about demons souls. the game developed by from software and published by sony in japan right? yeah bra. atlus got the rights from sony and released it here. i guess you are right then huh. atlus put there name on the paper and paid to get it shipped. damn they are brilliant! or you can think this way.....there is a reason JRPG's are dead if the game isnt called final fantasy. and seeing how bad FF13 was it is probably dead too.

kobraka1

Demons Souls got greatest hits status. Pretty damn brilliant of them I'd say. And fairly f*ckt*rded of Sony.

but again atlus had nothing to do with making the game. and yeah. game is good.

They are brilliant for signing their name and getting it published here when Sony failed to man up.

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Most of them moved over to handhelds simply because of the soaring development costs this gen.
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Gamers have become more narrow-minded these days. If it's not FPS or TPS, chances are it won't sell too well (unless it's a well known franchise).Mr_Cumberdale

This is the main reason.

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#25 lawlessx
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Gamers have become more narrow-minded these days. If it's not FPS or TPS, chances are it won't sell too well (unless it's a well known franchise).Mr_Cumberdale
pretty much this.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Gamers have become more narrow-minded these days. If it's not FPS or TPS, chances are it won't sell too well (unless it's a well known franchise).lawlessx
pretty much this.

Even some well reviewed western games like ME, Alan wake, Heavy rain are not selling very well just because they are not FPS or TPS.

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#28 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Gamers have become more narrow-minded these days. If it's not FPS or TPS, chances are it won't sell too well (unless it's a well known franchise).Kashiwaba

pretty much this.

Even some well reviewed western games like ME, Alan wake, Heavy rain are not selling very well just because they are not FPS or TPS.

The fact that heavy rain sold aswell as it did,in my opinion, shows that that there is still some hope out there for developers who want to create something new and truly innovative.