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#1  Edited By loco145
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Which is the biggest Next-Gen flop so far?

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#2  Edited By cainetao11
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Well by Hype score its Ryse. I believe its official was AA and it got a 4. But, KZ is an established franchise, and basically Sony's Halo. KZ2 a 9, KZ3 8.5, KZM 8..........KZSF a 7. Pretty bad drop. So numbers its Ryse, but weight of industry its KZ imo.

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Wii U selling 3 million units in its first year while PS4 and Xbone sell that in their first month

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Game? Ryse of course lol

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#5  Edited By TheTruthIsREAL
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Ryse lol. Makes me chuckle every time I think about it.

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Wii U if we are aloud to say consoles the PS4 already threatening to pass it by the end of November.

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#7  Edited By Newhopes
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Who hyped Ryse apart from a few stupid cows everybody else guessed about right.

Overall I'd say killzone was the biggest overhyped flop.

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@Newhopes said:

Who hyped Ryse apart from a few stupid cows everybody else guessed about right.

Overall I'd say killzone was the biggest overhyped flop.

Probably.

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Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

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Killzone SF, it was touted as the Half life for consoles, it was the game that made all Cows believe the ps4 was more powerful than a high end pc. Ryse always looked to be all graphics and no substance, that 4/10 was so easy to see,plus it's Crytec, they haven't made a decent game since Warhead.

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Killzone. Everyone expected Ryse to suck but it still flopped hard because of how badly it scored but it wasn't exactly surprising. The way Cows hyped Killzone to be the next Half Life and actually posting in the hype thread that they think it will be AAAA...LOL

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Ryse.............

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@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

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#14  Edited By ConorHat
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This gen is the worst flop I've ever seen. I've been gaming through every single gen since the release of the Atari 2600.

My PC in 2004 could run higher settings than this gen currently can handle. Majorly lackluster systems.

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bla bla I'm a cow ryse

bla bla I'm a lem knack

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#16  Edited By CloudStrife213
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@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

Don't celebrate that as a victory yet.

At least Microsoft's studios beat both Sony's first party studios, Knack/Killzone. What does that say about the quality of Sony studios? Not that I am a fanboy like you because I am getting both consoles. I just see things the way they are.

Let's be honest, nobody hyped Dead Rising 3 or Killer Instinct to get high scores, unlike Killzone and Knack.

Killzone : Shadow Fall - Flop

Knack - Flop

Resogun>>(83)Forza(82)>>>>Dead Rising 3(78)>>Killer Instinct(74)>>> Killzone(73)>>>Ryse(61)>Knack(56)

What's funny now is that cows are now bragging about Resogun, like its their prized jewel, when cows probably haven't even heard of the game at all until it was rated the highest exclusive on metacritic.

Nobody hyped Resogun, and if there were people who hyped it, only a few would have.

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@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

Don't celebrate that as a victory yet.

At least Microsoft's studios beat both Sony's first party studios, Knack/Killzone. What does that say about the quality of Sony studios? Not that I am a fanboy like you because I am getting both consoles. I just see things the way they are.

Let's be honest, nobody hyped Dead Rising 3 or Killer Instinct to get high scores, unlike Killzone and Knack.

Killzone : Shadow Fall - Flop

Knack - Flop

Resogun>>(83)Forza(82)>>>>Dead Rising 3(78)>>Killer Instinct(74)>>> Killzone(73)>>>Ryse(61)>Knack(56)

What's funny now is that cows are now bragging about Resogun, like its their prized jewel, when cows probably haven't even heard of the game at all until it was rated the highest exclusive on metacritic.

Nobody hyped Resogun, and if there were people who hyped it, only a few would have.

Me too, fact: Resogun > Xbone exclusives on metacritic. And imo both console launch games are mediocre at best.

And lol at denying you're a lemming. LMFAO

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#18  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@CloudStrife213 said:

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Pure lies.

What weak damage control this is XD

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#19  Edited By CloudStrife213
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@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

Don't celebrate that as a victory yet.

At least Microsoft's studios beat both Sony's first party studios, Knack/Killzone. What does that say about the quality of Sony studios? Not that I am a fanboy like you because I am getting both consoles. I just see things the way they are.

Let's be honest, nobody hyped Dead Rising 3 or Killer Instinct to get high scores, unlike Killzone and Knack.

Killzone : Shadow Fall - Flop

Knack - Flop

Resogun>>(83)Forza(82)>>>>Dead Rising 3(78)>>Killer Instinct(74)>>> Killzone(73)>>>Ryse(61)>Knack(56)

What's funny now is that cows are now bragging about Resogun, like its their prized jewel, when cows probably haven't even heard of the game at all until it was rated the highest exclusive on metacritic.

Nobody hyped Resogun, and if there were people who hyped it, only a few would have.

Me too, fact: Resogun > Xbone exclusives on metacritic. And imo both console launch games are mediocre at best.

And lol at denying you're a lemming. LMFAO

A lemming that will get both consoles? A lemming that had the PS2 as his childhood console, a lemming that had both the PS3 and Xbox 360? A lemming that likes Final Fantasy, and Cloud Strife?

I have my preferences when it comes to games, features, controllers, and I do try to downplay the graphical disparities on the Xbox One, because this is only launch. Not everything is set in stone during launch. Things will change.

But we all do know that the PS4 is much more powerful than the Xbox One. Everybody knows that. But that doesn't mean that the graphics representing the consoles today will represent the entire console cycle, and that doesn't mean that there will be a huge graphical gap between both consoles. As stated by developers, they said that they are still getting used to the architecture of both consoles to maximize performance.

The graphics and performance advantage has to go to the PS4, but not at a significantly huge gap.

There is no doubt that the PS4 is more powerful, the developers have already stated that. What they are saying that there won't be any long-term noticeable graphics differences.

"I think this is not going to be an issue in six months," one reliable game development source who is not affiliated with Microsoft or Sony told us. "It's just a bumpy time for launch is what it is."

This same source corroborated reports that multiple multiplatform launch games will launch running at a higher resolution on PS4 than Xbox One. Still, they don't expect any major, noticeable graphics differences to be long-term. They attribute this to gradual improvements made to the Xbox One hardware over the past year but more because they expect developers to overcome any headaches they're having developing for the new Xbox as they did with last generation's onerous PS3.

Source:

http://kotaku.com/about-those-xbox-one-vs-ps4-graphics-rumors-1454130634

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#20  Edited By NFJSupreme
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@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

Don't celebrate that as a victory yet.

At least Microsoft's studios beat both Sony's first party studios, Knack/Killzone. What does that say about the quality of Sony studios? Not that I am a fanboy like you because I am getting both consoles. I just see things the way they are.

Let's be honest, nobody hyped Dead Rising 3 or Killer Instinct to get high scores, unlike Killzone and Knack.

Killzone : Shadow Fall - Flop

Knack - Flop

Resogun>>(83)Forza(82)>>>>Dead Rising 3(78)>>Killer Instinct(74)>>> Killzone(73)>>>Ryse(61)>Knack(56)

What's funny now is that cows are now bragging about Resogun, like its their prized jewel, when cows probably haven't even heard of the game at all until it was rated the highest exclusive on metacritic.

Nobody hyped Resogun, and if there were people who hyped it, only a few would have.

Me too, fact: Resogun > Xbone exclusives on metacritic. And imo both console launch games are mediocre at best.

And lol at denying you're a lemming. LMFAO

A lemming that will get both consoles? A lemming that had the PS2 as his childhood console, a lemming that had both the PS3 and Xbox 360? A lemming that likes Final Fantasy, and Cloud Strife?

I have my preferences when it comes to games, features, controllers, and I do try to downplay the graphical disparities on the Xbox One, because this is only launch. Not everything is set in stone during launch. Things will change.

But we all do know that the PS4 is much more powerful than the Xbox One. Everybody knows that. But that doesn't mean that the graphics representing the consoles today will represent the entire console cycle, and that doesn't mean that there will be a huge graphical gap between both consoles. As stated by developers, they said that they are still getting used to the architecture of both consoles to maximize performance.

The graphics and performance advantage has to go to the PS4, but not at a significantly huge gap.

There is no doubt that the PS4 is more powerful, the developers have already stated that. What they are saying that there won't be any long-term noticeable graphics differences.

"I think this is not going to be an issue in six months," one reliable game development source who is not affiliated with Microsoft or Sony told us. "It's just a bumpy time for launch is what it is."

This same source corroborated reports that multiple multiplatform launch games will launch running at a higher resolution on PS4 than Xbox One. Still, they don't expect any major, noticeable graphics differences to be long-term. They attribute this to gradual improvements made to the Xbox One hardware over the past year but more because they expect developers to overcome any headaches they're having developing for the new Xbox as they did with last generation's onerous PS3.

Source:

http://kotaku.com/about-those-xbox-one-vs-ps4-graphics-rumors-1454130634

The xbone has more room to grow because it is a more atypical PC design. The PS4 is basically a PC with unified memory. With that said the PS4's ceiling is still higher. It's just closer to it's ceiling now than the Xbone because it's VERY easy to develop for.

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#21  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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Knack and Ryse

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@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Knack and Killzone. Knack was hyped by my friends and many other Sony fanboys bragging about their launch exclusives.Many thought it would be Sony's trademark platformer.

Killzone : Shadow Fall was also overhyped as being a Halo Killer, hyping it up that it will have 90+ reviews, when it actually turned out to be only a beautiful game with no substance.

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Ryse - 61 Metacritic

Knack - 56 Metacritic

Metacritic? Now it's okay to use it? Okay I agree

Resogun >>>>>>>>>>>> every Xbone exclusive.

TLHBO

Don't celebrate that as a victory yet.

At least Microsoft's studios beat both Sony's first party studios, Knack/Killzone. What does that say about the quality of Sony studios? Not that I am a fanboy like you because I am getting both consoles. I just see things the way they are.

Let's be honest, nobody hyped Dead Rising 3 or Killer Instinct to get high scores, unlike Killzone and Knack.

Killzone : Shadow Fall - Flop

Knack - Flop

Resogun>>(83)Forza(82)>>>>Dead Rising 3(78)>>Killer Instinct(74)>>> Killzone(73)>>>Ryse(61)>Knack(56)

What's funny now is that cows are now bragging about Resogun, like its their prized jewel, when cows probably haven't even heard of the game at all until it was rated the highest exclusive on metacritic.

Nobody hyped Resogun, and if there were people who hyped it, only a few would have.

Me too, fact: Resogun > Xbone exclusives on metacritic. And imo both console launch games are mediocre at best.

And lol at denying you're a lemming. LMFAO

A lemming that will get both consoles? A lemming that had the PS2 as his childhood console, a lemming that had both the PS3 and Xbox 360? A lemming that likes Final Fantasy, and Cloud Strife?

I have my preferences when it comes to games, features, controllers, and I do try to downplay the graphical disparities on the Xbox One, because this is only launch. Not everything is set in stone during launch. Things will change.

But we all do know that the PS4 is much more powerful than the Xbox One. Everybody knows that. But that doesn't mean that the graphics representing the consoles today will represent the entire console cycle, and that doesn't mean that there will be a huge graphical gap between both consoles. As stated by developers, they said that they are still getting used to the architecture of both consoles to maximize performance.

The graphics and performance advantage has to go to the PS4, but not at a significantly huge gap.

There is no doubt that the PS4 is more powerful, the developers have already stated that. What they are saying that there won't be any long-term noticeable graphics differences.

"I think this is not going to be an issue in six months," one reliable game development source who is not affiliated with Microsoft or Sony told us. "It's just a bumpy time for launch is what it is."

This same source corroborated reports that multiple multiplatform launch games will launch running at a higher resolution on PS4 than Xbox One. Still, they don't expect any major, noticeable graphics differences to be long-term. They attribute this to gradual improvements made to the Xbox One hardware over the past year but more because they expect developers to overcome any headaches they're having developing for the new Xbox as they did with last generation's onerous PS3.

Source:

http://kotaku.com/about-those-xbox-one-vs-ps4-graphics-rumors-1454130634

Why are people bragging about Resogun? It's a free game and if it was sold at 60, hell even 20 dollars it wouldn't have scored the same. Different standards.

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I don't get the Resogun hype either. I promise you most cows are not interested in a side scroller and even though it is free they will not play it. It's like cows only hype their big budget AAA games until they flop then it's all about the indies. Lems do it to but lately cows been moving the goal post every time they take an L.

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WiiU, it is so bad it has become officially last gen

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Seems like pretty much every major next gen exclusive has disappointed either mildly or hugely so far. Note that I'm not classing resogun as a "major exclusive" on account of the fact that its free. Back on tapic, I'd say the biggest flop so far has to be either Knack or Ryse.

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I would have said Knack and Ryse but to be fair they didn't disappoint. They both delivered exactly what we were expecting since the first time we saw them.

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I'd say RYSE, without a doubt. i was actually interested in the game previously.

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#28  Edited By NFJSupreme
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@edidili said:

I would have said Knack and Ryse but to be fair they didn't disappoint. They both delivered exactly what we were expecting since E3.

this is true. I said the biggest coup in SW history would have been if Ryse got an 8 or higher because everyone, even lems, thought the game would suck. Same for Knack. So it's hard to say they "disappointed." If we go off expectations only one game delivered this launch and that was Forza 5. Killzone had an opportunity to deliver as a killer app for the PS4 but it came up short.

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I'd say Ryse followed by Killzone.

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@CloudStrife213 said:

As for Ryse, not so. Nobody hyped that game except for cows.

Exactly that - the hype was a generous A save for the PS fanboys who wanted it hyped AAA.

Killzone has long been hyped as a AAA franchise - dating back to the original on the PS2. And yet only one has actually reached that goal.
Then there is always the Wii U.

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Ryse, knack isn't even in the same solar system. LMAO

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If everyone is honest I don't think there's been a real major flop so far. Those of us in the middle knew Ryse and Knack would be pants (maybe not that pants but still pants - outside of a launch lineup no one would have cared about them) and, the most rabid herd memebers aside, that KZ would be another mediocre run of the mill shooter over shadowed by multiplat offerings.

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Ryse fo sho.

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#34 clone01
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By score, probably Ryse. Though I do think more people were hyping Killzone. Don't think Knack qualifies, as no one was really hyping it.