Bioshock 2 >>>>>> Bioshock Infinite (spoilers)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] WRONG texasgoldrush

There've been tons. You just plug your ears and go "LALALALALAL CAN'T HEAR YOU."

I think some of the dialogue choices in TWD don't really gel with the way the plot is "suppose" to go. It makes certain character swings feel awkward, and the general ebb and flow of the conversation is just weird at times. Plus it's more smoke and mirrors territory like Mass Effect, but actually effective. Great story stuff, don't really care for the game as a whole though. jg4xchamp

f*ck he does start his "rebuttals" with and yet.....damn it.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] What was the purpose of this topic, to engage in a discussion with people or get on your soapbox and declare that you know better then everyone else? Because like every other thread you make, it's evidently the later, and blocking your ears and repeating yourself only makes you look like a bigger idiot then you are.DarkLink77

There've been tons. You just plug your ears and go "LALALALALAL CAN'T HEAR YOU."

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I think some of the dialogue choices in TWD don't really gel with the way the plot is "suppose" to go. It makes certain character swings feel awkward, and the general ebb and flow of the conversation is just weird at times. Plus it's more smoke and mirrors territory like Mass Effect, but actually effective. Great story stuff, don't really care for the game as a whole though. DarkLink77

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I think some of the dialogue choices in TWD don't really gel with the way the plot is "suppose" to go. It makes certain character swings feel awkward, and the general ebb and flow of the conversation is just weird at times. Plus it's more smoke and mirrors territory like Mass Effect, but actually effective. Great story stuff, don't really care for the game as a whole though. DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I think some of the dialogue choices in TWD don't really gel with the way the plot is "suppose" to go. It makes certain character swings feel awkward, and the general ebb and flow of the conversation is just weird at times. Plus it's more smoke and mirrors territory like Mass Effect, but actually effective. Great story stuff, don't really care for the game as a whole though. texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] 2. So you want the game to lack detail? You want gameplay/narrative segregation, which Infinite violates throughout. Vaasman

Dude Bad Boys 2 is like the single greatest buddy cop movie ever due to the most plausible plot of all time. The Miami Police Department would invade Cuba for one black cop's sister. I was just stunned at how Bay could write such a beautifully, gritty, and down to earth narrative like that. jg4xchamp

Hahahahahaha. Nice. I haven't seen that movie in so long, but I'm pretty sure my favorite part would still be... "y'all mothafvckas need jesus!"

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] 2. So you want the game to lack detail? You want gameplay/narrative segregation, which Infinite violates throughout. Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] 2. So you want the game to lack detail? You want gameplay/narrative segregation, which Infinite violates throughout. texasgoldrush

I've got some red shirts I wear around too. Does that mean I'm reppin the bloods?

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] 2. So you want the game to lack detail? You want gameplay/narrative segregation, which Infinite violates throughout. DarkLink77

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Dude Bad Boys 2 is like the single greatest buddy cop movie ever due to the most plausible plot of all time. The Miami Police Department would invade Cuba for one black cop's sister. I was just stunned at how Bay could write such a beautifully, gritty, and down to earth narrative like that. jg4xchamp

Hahahahahaha. Nice. I haven't seen that movie in so long, but I'm pretty sure my favorite part would still be... "y'all mothafvckas need jesus!"

Hahaha. Fantastic.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Zealots of the lady do not fight with the vox populi. There is only one instance where they are fighting you at the same time, and that is outside the bank after you activate the tears. They aren't on the same side however, they're merely both going for you. The Zealots show up at that point because you've disturbed the grave of lady comstock, not because they've switched sides.

Vaasman

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fight you when you activate the tear.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Zealots of the lady do not fight with the vox populi. There is only one instance where they are fighting you at the same time, and that is outside the bank after you activate the tears. They aren't on the same side however, they're merely both going for you. The Zealots show up at that point because you've disturbed the grave of lady comstock, not because they've switched sides.

Vaasman

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fights you when you activate the tear.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Aw, was Jurassic Park bad? I kinda wanted to play that.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Wrong...they have red attire.texasgoldrush

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fights you when you activate the tear.

and yet you fall back yet again, acting like you're still right, and this means nothing.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]They don't.

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fights you when you activate the tear.

the_bi99man

and yet you fall back yet again, acting like you're still right, and this means nothing.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]They don't.

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fights you when you activate the tear.

Vaasman

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

Boom. yet another argument shot down by facts.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]They don't.

Here's video evidence.

Black garb.

There is a single zealot as you activate the bank tear who is wearing red, but he does not fight with the vox and only fights you when you activate the tear.

Vaasman

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet you chase him throughout the bank, while he is wearing Vox colors, going through Vox troops.texasgoldrush

and yet you fall back yet again, acting like you're still right, and this means nothing.

Except that you're not. At all. In fact, on this particular example, you couldn't be more wrong. Vaasman just explained it perfectly.

Wasn't there a good one for the Super Nintendo? It's been a good while since a good game had dinosaurs in it. NG and Natural Selection don't count. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

and yet you fall back yet again, acting like you're still right, and this means nothing.

the_bi99man

Except that you're not. At all. In fact, on this particular example, you couldn't be more wrong. Vaasman just explained it perfectly.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet you chase him throughout the bank, while he is wearing Vox colors, going through Vox troops.texasgoldrush

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

He's wearing different colors, he's the last one you fight, he's considerably harder... take your pick.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"] He doesn't fight with them. Do I need to spell that out for you? He avoids them and you at each turn. He does not fight you until you are at the tear that is directly caused by lady comstock's return.

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet you chase him throughout the bank, while he is wearing Vox colors, going through Vox troops.texasgoldrush

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

They're very obviously an extremist sect of Christianity. All of Columbia is. That's kind of the whole point of the story. And the evidence that he's the leader is that he's the last one you fight, he's dressed differently, and he doesn't start fighting until you're about to get to Lady Comstock. Seriously dude, just give it up. You're floundering at this point.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"] He doesn't fight with them. Do I need to spell that out for you? He avoids them and you at each turn. He does not fight you until you are at the tear that is directly caused by lady comstock's return.

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

the_bi99man

They're very obviously an extremist sect of Christianity. All of Columbia is. That's kind of the whole point of the story. And the evidence that he's the leader is that he's the last one you fight, he's dressed differently, and he doesn't start fighting until you're about to get to Lady Comstock. Seriously dude, just give it up. You're floundering at this point.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"] He doesn't fight with them. Do I need to spell that out for you? He avoids them and you at each turn. He does not fight you until you are at the tear that is directly caused by lady comstock's return.

Anyone who knows anything about normal christianity knows that priests wear black and the cardinal wears red. As in, this is the last zealot you see, because it's the leader, and he's the last guy between you and the secret of lady comstock.

Sorry man, you're just plain wrong.

DarkLink77

He's wearing different colors, he's the last one you fight, he's considerably harder... take your pick.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] However, this aint christainity.....they are the KKK of Columbia. Where is the evidence that he is the leader?jg4xchamp

He's wearing different colors, he's the last one you fight, he's considerably harder... take your pick.

That entire scenario is pure "videogame logic" in the way it plays out(because yeah the vox should at the least acknowledge that this guy is getting by him), but nothing about that sequence necessarily implies he is working with them, or some glaring plot hole that ruins those 2 factions as much as that scenario is just pure videogame logic. Which to be fair all 3 Bioshocks have, because Videogames.jg4xchamp

I love how we went to the same place. :lol:

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Where's the evidence he's fighting for the vox? Are you so desperate that you'd assume just because he's wearing red that he's on their side?

Vaasman

Would it really hurt THAT much just to say you're wrong? 

He's just dead set on finding issues with every little thing. I'm done talking about Infinite with this guy. He can go ahead and keep losing sleep over imaginary plot holes because it didn't do everything exactly the way he wanted. I'm going to continue going through life knowing that Infinite is an amazing game, with a top-notch story that puts 90% of the video game industry to shame. 

Aw, was Jurassic Park bad? I kinda wanted to play that.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Aw, was Jurassic Park bad? I kinda wanted to play that.skrat_01

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