Bioware has plans to add 500 worlds in TOR by the year 2025!

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#1 GeneralShowzer
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It's a PC exclusive, so I guess it's SW matterial.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Star-Wars-The-Old-republic-500-worlds-MMOG-PC-Gaming,13124.html

BioWare is shooting to have 500 explorable worlds in Star Wars: The Old Republic by 2025.

"I can say that we have 19 major worlds," he said during a Q&A session. "Then we have an indeterminate number of minor worlds. And our goal, obviously this being an online game, that we're hoping is going to last for decades, we're going to be, obviously, adding more to the galaxy map as the game progresses. We want to add dozens of worlds. Hundreds of worlds eventually. In 2025, we'll hopefully have 500 worlds."

Wat.

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#2 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Sounds like a load of bull to me.

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#3 Jynxzor
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500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.
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#4 -RocBoys9489-
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If it gets the support promised, it will be the first MMO I ever pay to play
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#5 Masculus
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Does that means they'll stop making different games like Blizzard till SC2?

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.

So true.. :P
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#7 KC_Hokie
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I wonder how much they will charge for access to each planet. This is EA we're talking about.
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#8 gamer620
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.

How is that impossible? They don't have to be gigantic zones, but that doesn't mean they can't be fully explorable. they would have 13 years to make that happen, which means less than 50 worlds of whatever size they decide a year. How is that not possible? I think you forget that the hard part of the game is done upon release, and if I recall correctly, a good portion of the time spent in pre-production was spent on the future of the game as well as the vanilla release.
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#9 deactivated-5e9357e99ffb8
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Ehh, I agree witht he 500 plantes that we can scan comment.

and What is up with the unholy use of the dark text lately.

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#10 Inconsistancy
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Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.
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#11 amari24
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For this to happen, the game has to be successful first. Making claims like this is baseless until the game is actually released. I doubt this will happen.

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#12 Maroxad
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I think that was an exaggeration, basicly saying they wish to expand it as much as possible.

500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.Jynxzor

You deserve a medal.

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Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.Inconsistancy
Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me.
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#14 JangoWuzHere
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Are we just gonna take every sentence out of context and make it super negative?

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#15 ehussein1379
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Yes please.

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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.KC_Hokie
Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me.

Well, the space combat in KOTOR was very rail based as well.
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#17 PtothaWHAT
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Anyone who actually watched the Comic Con panel where they said this would have caught on to the sarcasim.

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Those who don't value multiplayer won't appreciate this game.

If you like MP however this is going to be the new epicness to play for years to come.

Prediction: thinking man's GOTY 2011

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.JangoWuzHere
Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me.

Well, the space combat in KOTOR was very rail based as well.

This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.
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#21 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.KC_Hokie
Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me.

I LOVED TIE FIGHTER. First time I ever got the option to switch Software to Hardware 3d D:, was lovely, what a difference that made.

:cry:, why'd they makea rail sequence? Such a waste of potential awesome.

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#22 Avian005
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Anyone who actually watched the Comic Con panel where they said this would have caught on to the sarcasim.

PtothaWHAT

Yeah, this sounds like a joke.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Sounds stupid, what's the point of 500 empty planets? And pouring that type of money into the damn thing..., unless they're procedurally generated... Silly wow clone, what's the point, maybe if it was an MMO-TPS/hack'n-slash then it'd be a cool idea. But isn't the space travel/combat, on rails or something? And what an ugly game.Inconsistancy
Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me.

I LOVED TIE FIGHTER. First time I ever got the option to switch Software to Hardware 3d D:, was lovely, what a difference that made.

Bioware obviously never played it.
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.... Looking good. The beta is capped at medium settings from what I hear.

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#25 Maroxad
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Those who don't value multiplayer won't appreciate this game.

If you like MP however this is going to be the new epicness to play for years to come.

Prediction: thinking man's GOTY 2011

ehussein1379

Nah, the thinking man's GOTY 2011 is Frozen Synapse.

However SWTOR may end up being MMO of the year.

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#26 ehussein1379
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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]

Those who don't value multiplayer won't appreciate this game.

If you like MP however this is going to be the new epicness to play for years to come.

Prediction: thinking man's GOTY 2011

Maroxad

Nah, the thinking man's GOTY 2011 is Frozen Synapse.

However SWTOR may end up being MMO of the year.

Thinking man's AAAA GOTY?

:)

FS is awesome, I could listen to the soundtrack for hours.

ToR will be a new level of gaming IMO. Bioware Story + massive + MP + friends + PVP + KOTOR

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I thought they were just joking when they said that at the conference. :?

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#28 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Nah, the thinking man's GOTY 2011 is Frozen Synapse.

However SWTOR may end up being MMO of the year.

ehussein1379

Thinking man's AAAA GOTY?

:)

FS is awesome, I could listen to the soundtrack for hours.

ToR will be a new level of gaming IMO. Bioware Story + massive + MP + friends + PVP + KOTOR

FS has surprisingly good soundtrack.

I doubt it is going to get AAAA, higher standards on PC+non-twitch combat+mixed hype+overused structure will bring it down. I could see it getting AAA however.

Also Guild Wars 2 and ArcheAge looks better, but SWTOR looks pretty nice as well. Will most likely be getting all 3.

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#29 Jynxzor
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I thought they were just joking when they said that at the conference. :?

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pretty sure they are, while it's nice to think ahead...I can't imagine them thinking 14 year ahead.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

I thought they were just joking when they said that at the conference. :?

Jynxzor
pretty sure they are, while it's nice to think ahead...I can't imagine them thinking 14 year ahead.

SAme here. I see them having a few expansions, updates, and small add-ons in the works for say the next 5 years (planning stages or later), but the 500 planets had to be a joke. I'm surprised so many took it seriously
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[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.

How is that impossible? They don't have to be gigantic zones, but that doesn't mean they can't be fully explorable. they would have 13 years to make that happen, which means less than 50 worlds of whatever size they decide a year. How is that not possible? I think you forget that the hard part of the game is done upon release, and if I recall correctly, a good portion of the time spent in pre-production was spent on the future of the game as well as the vanilla release.

The game has been in development for 6 years and they only have 19 worlds at launch. They would be lucky to add 5 worlds a year with all the VO they have to do for each quest and class. This game is not that good anyway so I doubt there will be many expansions.
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#32 elbert_b_23
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haha i watched the panel where the guy said that that and the person next to him gave a facepalm like wtf did he just say it was funny and its a mmo so they can eaisly keep pumping out expansions as long as people keep supporting them
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[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.-Renegade
How is that impossible? They don't have to be gigantic zones, but that doesn't mean they can't be fully explorable. they would have 13 years to make that happen, which means less than 50 worlds of whatever size they decide a year. How is that not possible? I think you forget that the hard part of the game is done upon release, and if I recall correctly, a good portion of the time spent in pre-production was spent on the future of the game as well as the vanilla release.

The game has been in development for 6 years and they only have 19 worlds at launch. They would be lucky to add 5 worlds a year with all the VO they have to do for each quest and class. This game is not that good anyway so I doubt there will be many expansions.

I do think they will have major problems adding content to satisfy the player base. It's the biggest flaw of the 'themepark' model. And in this case they have voice overs and multiple character options and classes.

Sounds like an MMO developers nightmare to me they way they structured this game.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]500 worlds full of content? Impossible. 500 worlds of planet scanning? Possible.

How is that impossible? They don't have to be gigantic zones, but that doesn't mean they can't be fully explorable. they would have 13 years to make that happen, which means less than 50 worlds of whatever size they decide a year. How is that not possible? I think you forget that the hard part of the game is done upon release, and if I recall correctly, a good portion of the time spent in pre-production was spent on the future of the game as well as the vanilla release.

The game has been in development for 6 years and they only have 19 worlds at launch. They would be lucky to add 5 worlds a year with all the VO they have to do for each quest and class. This game is not that good anyway so I doubt there will be many expansions.

well, 19 main worlds and a indefinite amount of minor worlds. I'm guessing the 19 are the ones with a bunch of missions and exploring you can do, and the minor world are where there is like one battlefield or stuff like PvP and whatnot.
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It's funny that I'm such a diehard for FFXIV's looming relaunch but this Star Wars MMO just looks to meh in my eyes. I guess it's down to personal tastes.

I just think that this

Looks better than this

I can't really comment on the gameplay of either becuase they will be totally different when they are Launched (Re-launched lol) for people to subscribe.

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each world will be dlc? xD

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It's funny that I'm such a diehard for FFXIV's looming relaunch but this Star Wars MMO just looks to meh in my eyes. I guess it's down to personal tastes.Jynxzor

Cat women and cat children with flowers over sith, jedi, and bounty hunters?

And FFXIV was by far the worst MMO I've ever played.

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each world will be dlc? xD

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Wouldn't bet against it. It's EA and they're going to try to make back their 100+ million dollar investment as quickly as possible.
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It's funny that I'm such a diehard for FFXIV's looming relaunch but this Star Wars MMO just looks to meh in my eyes. I guess it's down to personal tastes.

I just think that this

Looks better than this

I can't really comment on the gameplay of either becuase they will be totally different when they are Launched (Re-launched lol) for people to subscribe.

Jynxzor

hmm, midget furries or massive lightsaber battle?

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Sorry,but i can't really believe anything bioware says at this point in this generation. Besides..they kinda said mass effect would have "tons and tons' of worlds to explore...what went wrong?
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#41 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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It's funny that I'm such a diehard for FFXIV's looming relaunch but this Star Wars MMO just looks to meh in my eyes. I guess it's down to personal tastes.

I just think that this

Looks better than this

I can't really comment on the gameplay of either becuase they will be totally different when they are Launched (Re-launched lol) for people to subscribe.

Jynxzor

I'll take The Old Republic out of this choice and I don't even like Star Wars :O.

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This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.KC_Hokie

Really, didn't know that? Wasn't GTA IV the most expensive for a while with a budget of $100 million or something?

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I think they took this out of context. He was laughing when he said that If I remember correctly. Though they definatly are planning on continuing to add to the old republic and they want it to last for decades.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

It's funny that I'm such a diehard for FFXIV's looming relaunch but this Star Wars MMO just looks to meh in my eyes. I guess it's down to personal tastes.

I just think that this

Looks better than this

I can't really comment on the gameplay of either becuase they will be totally different when they are Launched (Re-launched lol) for people to subscribe.

svetzenlether

hmm, midget furries or massive lightsaber battle?

Graphics... not content, FailXIV looks prettier graphically. Imagine the lightsaber battle with the superior graphics, animations and models.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.MrJack3690

Really, didn't know that? Wasn't GTA IV the most expensive for a while with a budget of $100 million or something?

Yes. This is more expensive.
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This POS will die in a year rofl

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[QUOTE="MrJack3690"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.KC_Hokie

Really, didn't know that? Wasn't GTA IV the most expensive for a while with a budget of $100 million or something?

Yes. This is more expensive.

By far, wasn't it more than $300 million? EA is basically putting all they have into this game to get WoW level success
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#48 Dead-Memories
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an MMO lasting for multiple decades?

Although I have full faith the TOR will be a big deal and one of the greatest MMO's to come out, but this just sounds like pure marketing BS :lol:

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[QUOTE="MrJack3690"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.KC_Hokie

Really, didn't know that? Wasn't GTA IV the most expensive for a while with a budget of $100 million or something?

Yes. This is more expensive.

Rumors are that it is upwards of $300 million.... Considering they have had full scale development with 200+ employees plus a full slate of outsourced work on the game for 4 full years now, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was true...

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea the space combat is a rail shooter. I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and TIE Fighter fan so that was blasphemy to me. KC_Hokie
Well, the space combat in KOTOR was very rail based as well.

This is a Star Wars MMO that took years to develop and is the most expensive game ever made. I expected more than a rail shooter for space combat. Call me crazy.

Is this true