BioWare Looks to Skyrim as it Develops Dragon Age III

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397985,00.asp

sooo are bioware admitting they f***** up ?

I must say if DA3 went back to being a RPG instead of a mediocre action game with limited options I would be pleased

DA is dead if they *uck up on number III, I have a feeling they are going to no matter who influences them

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

This can only mean the best game ever!!

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

You mean Baldur's Gate's identity?

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Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

Ross_the_Boss6

You mean Baldur's Gate's identity?

They're admitting Bethesda>Bioware.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

Ross_the_Boss6

You mean Baldur's Gate's identity?

Hey, I'd rather have BG's identity over the ton of bad, yet original, game concepts. :|

Dragon Age (the first) was one of the few recent RPGs that I actually went from start to end without ever getting bored. I took a month-long pause when I first got the Stronghold, in NWN2, and even Oblivion had me rushing through the story just to see it to an end.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

You mean Baldur's Gate's identity?

And for some reason you think DA III will clone Skyrim and no longer have its own identity...?

Why not make a game like DA1 again, I loved that game 2 was bad.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

You mean Baldur's Gate's identity?

Ross_the_Boss6

And for some reason you think DA III will clone Skyrim and no longer have its own identity...?

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

Hating Skyrim again I see. Tell me, can you not just move on from it? It's a bad game. We get it. Stop beating the bush, I think it's bleeding by now.

They go where the money is... and we know it's on Skyrim.

Why can't they look to Dragon Age: Origins to developer Dragon Age III or hell Neverwinter Nights II? Dragon Age: Origins was the last Dragon Age game where it didn't suck.

Why don't they just look at Dragon Age 1, add to the engine to make the graphics look better and hire a good writter to make a far better story.

But nah, why make both money and a potentially classic title, wen you can just make a mainstream piece of crap and a ton of money.

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

Skyrim is an amazing game but I don't think that using it as a guide will make Dragon Age good...

My only complaint about DA II is the enviroments. Fix that sh*t and im happy.

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

Idiotic post. The game has far from terrible animation and is perfectly acceptable in that regard as an RPG. When did Skyrim have "little RPG elements"? Are you joking? Its got a giant perk tree, many crafting skills, tons of items, enchantments, potions, quests,, etc. In terms of content, freedom and customizability, Dragon Age Origins got **** all on Skyrim. Heck even in the writing of the quests and universe Skyrim is better. Its one of the deepest RPGs to come out this gen. Tons of glitches? Sorry, but on the PC I encountered maybe 1 or 2 bugs and neither was very serious.

People think they are cool or something when they hate popular titles. Guess what, you aren't.

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So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

argetlam00

Idiotic post. The game has far from terrible animation and is perfectly acceptable in that regard as an RPG. When did Skyrim have "little RPG elements"? Are you joking? Its got a giant perk tree, many crafting skills, tons of items, enchantments, potions, quests,, etc. Its one of the deepest RPGs to come out this gen. Tons of glitches? Sorry, but on the PC I encountered maybe 1 or 2 bugs and neither was very serious.

Haters gon haters man...The skyrim hate is particularly entertaining becuase they resort to out right lying like "all the quests are fetch quests" or it has bad combat (its not the greatest but its an improvement form oblivion) awful writing etc etc all the while its breaking reocrds and reciving acclaim from both fans and the industry.

Haters gon haters man...The skyrim hate is particularly entertaining becuase they resort to out right lying like "all the quests are fetch quests" or it has bad combat (its not the greatest but its an improvement form oblivion) awful writing etc etc all the while its recieving critical acclaim breaking reocrds reciving acclaim from both fans and the industry.musalala

[QUOTE="musalala"]Haters gon haters man...The skyrim hate is particularly entertaining becuase they resort to out right lying like "all the quests are fetch quests" or it has bad combat (its not the greatest but its an improvement form oblivion) awful writing etc etc all the while its recieving critical acclaim breaking reocrds reciving acclaim from both fans and the industry.Androvinus

Sure there are fetch quests, but at least the dungeons you go through are usually well designed and fun. However, there are tons of non fetch quests that are well written. The murder mystery in Windhelm or the "Nightermare of Verminea" quest in Dawnstar for instance. Futhermore there is nothing wrong with a fetch quest that has a good background to it. Its not like in Skyrim all the fetch quests are "wolves ate granny's pies so go kill some wolves and get the pies back for granny".

[QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="musalala"]Haters gon haters man...The skyrim hate is particularly entertaining becuase they resort to out right lying like "all the quests are fetch quests" or it has bad combat (its not the greatest but its an improvement form oblivion) awful writing etc etc all the while its recieving critical acclaim breaking reocrds reciving acclaim from both fans and the industry.argetlam00

Sure there are fetch quests, but at least the dungeons you go through are usually well designed and fun. However, there are tons of non fetch quests that are well written. The murder mystery in Windhelm or the "Nightermare of Verminea" quest in Dawnstar for instance. Futhermore there is nothing wrong with a fetch quest that has a good background to it. Its not like in Skyrim all the fetch quests are "wolves ate granny's pies so go kill some wolves and get the pies back for granny".

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]Thats not a lie. There has been a considerable increase in the amount of fetch quests. And most of the quests are just disguised fetch quests, requiring you to crawl through a dungeon for whatever reason.Androvinus

Sure there are fetch quests, but at least the dungeons you go through are usually well designed and fun. However, there are tons of non fetch quests that are well written. The murder mystery in Windhelm or the "Nightermare of Verminea" quest in Dawnstar for instance. Futhermore there is nothing wrong with a fetch quest that has a good background to it. Its not like in Skyrim all the fetch quests are "wolves ate granny's pies so go kill some wolves and get the pies back for granny".

You think the quality of quests and dungeons went down transitioning from Oblivion to Skyrim? lol.

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]Thats not a lie. There has been a considerable increase in the amount of fetch quests. And most of the quests are just disguised fetch quests, requiring you to crawl through a dungeon for whatever reason.Androvinus

Sure there are fetch quests, but at least the dungeons you go through are usually well designed and fun. However, there are tons of non fetch quests that are well written. The murder mystery in Windhelm or the "Nightermare of Verminea" quest in Dawnstar for instance. Futhermore there is nothing wrong with a fetch quest that has a good background to it. Its not like in Skyrim all the fetch quests are "wolves ate granny's pies so go kill some wolves and get the pies back for granny".

Again over exageration not every dungeon/cave is a nordic ruin, what about the mines and the dewmer ruins and the forts etc etc, This is what I am talking about the distractors of Skyrim overexagerate to the point of it just being silly.

Again over exageration not every dungeon/cave is a nordic ruin, what about the mines and the dewmer ruins and the forts etc etc, This is what I am talking about the distractors of Skyrim overexagerate to the point of it just being silly.

musalala

So it'll have bad combat, ass awful writing, as little RPG elements as possible, terrible animations and a ton of glicthes.

Awesome.

Remember when Dragon Age had it's own identity? I do. Good times.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="musalala"]Again over exageration not every dungeon/cave is a nordic ruin, what about the mines and the dewmer ruins and the forts etc etc, This is what I am talking about the distractors of Skyrim overexagerate to the point of it just being silly.

Androvinus

Bioware and bethesda make totally different games. The world in Skyrim is open, sandboxy but they sacrifice narration and story progression for that which Bioware could never afford since that is the strongest selling point for Bioware's games. They can learn that is not OK to have only one cave for the entire game though.

Bioware can't get inspiration from Bethesda when it comes to combat too. In Skyrim you control only one character, in DA you control a party and that means totally different style in gameplay.

Bioware can learn something when it comes to artstyle though. They bashed DA:O for looking too genering fantasy that doesn't stand out from the crowd and so they went with a more stylized, cartoony look with DA2 but Skyrim proved them wrong. There is nothing wrong with realistic graphics for a wrpg as long as the environments have some variation. Leave FF characters to jrpgs.

Bioware and bethesda make totally different games. The world in Skyrim is open, sandboxy but they sacrifice narration and story progression for that which Bioware could never afford since that is the strongest selling point for Bioware's games. They can learn that is not OK to have only one cave for the entire game though.

Bioware can't get inspiration from Bethesda when it comes to combat too. In Skyrim you control only one character, in DA you control a party and that means totally different style in gameplay.

Bioware can learn something when it comes to artstyle though. They bashed DA:O for looking too genering fantasy that doesn't stand out from the crowd and so they went with a more stylized, cartoony look with DA2 but Skyrim proved them wrong. There is nothing wrong with realistic graphics for a wrpg as long as the environments have some variation. Leave FF characters to jrpgs.

edidili

[QUOTE="musalala"]Again over exageration not every dungeon/cave is a nordic ruin, what about the mines and the dewmer ruins and the forts etc etc, This is what I am talking about the distractors of Skyrim overexagerate to the point of it just being silly.

Androvinus

No they don"t..Oblivion was definatly repetition of the same dungeon over and over again but skyrim, each fort ,mine , nordic ruin,cave is unique no repitions,.To say that every single dungeon ( as was stated )is a nordic ruin is an over exageration

DAO's artstyle wa sfar from realistic...it was crap. DAII's was much better, however, it lacked varied environments. Legacy DLC showed how great the art can be. Elves looked worse though, outside Fenris, Merrill, and Tallis.texasgoldrush

DA:O's artstyle was fine, it was just an old technology that's all. It used an old engine. The artstyle in DA2 was just crap and no DX11 support could save it.

[QUOTE="edidili"]

Bioware and bethesda make totally different games. The world in Skyrim is open, sandboxy but they sacrifice narration and story progression for that which Bioware could never afford since that is the strongest selling point for Bioware's games. They can learn that is not OK to have only one cave for the entire game though.

Bioware can't get inspiration from Bethesda when it comes to combat too. In Skyrim you control only one character, in DA you control a party and that means totally different style in gameplay.

Bioware can learn something when it comes to artstyle though. They bashed DA:O for looking too genering fantasy that doesn't stand out from the crowd and so they went with a more stylized, cartoony look with DA2 but Skyrim proved them wrong. There is nothing wrong with realistic graphics for a wrpg as long as the environments have some variation. Leave FF characters to jrpgs.

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="edidili"]

Bioware and bethesda make totally different games. The world in Skyrim is open, sandboxy but they sacrifice narration and story progression for that which Bioware could never afford since that is the strongest selling point for Bioware's games. They can learn that is not OK to have only one cave for the entire game though.

Bioware can't get inspiration from Bethesda when it comes to combat too. In Skyrim you control only one character, in DA you control a party and that means totally different style in gameplay.

Bioware can learn something when it comes to artstyle though. They bashed DA:O for looking too genering fantasy that doesn't stand out from the crowd and so they went with a more stylized, cartoony look with DA2 but Skyrim proved them wrong. There is nothing wrong with realistic graphics for a wrpg as long as the environments have some variation. Leave FF characters to jrpgs.

ioannisdenton

Arguing with texas about the abomination known as DA2 is akin to trying destroy a titanium re-enforced brick wall with ur head, only pain awaits you. However texas at least admits it has flaws other Bioware fans (who shall remain nameless) make Texas look like an amateur and take their love for DA2 and all things bioware to hither unknown heights of fanboyism.

In his Defense it had some good ideas it was just massively hampered by corparate greed and Mass effect 2 envy

So BF is trying to take down CoD and now DA on Skyrim? gl with that EAsilversix_

It's kinda sad how EA, one of the biggest in industry always ends up being a follower instead of a leader.