bizarre clear the rumor, dvd9 is way enough for pgr4

from bizarre official statement

http://www.bizarrecreations.com/article.php?article_id=5257

As I'm sure you've seen, some of the comments made on our forum have been blown out of all proportion. This has been reported on certain web sites. It seems that a number of fanboys have jumped on the topic... sigh. So it's time we cleared this one up...

When we started designing PGR4 our primary goals were to create a great and unique experience over and above PGR3, to push the hardware as far as we could, and obviously to ensure that we give great value for money. DVD size is absolutely not a factor that we consider when designing our games... and PGR4 is no exception. DVD9 gives us more than we need to create a fabulous experience for you guys.

The previous game, PGR3, had five environments. That's how much we could create given our time and resources for that game. With the longer development cycle we've had for PGR4, as well as the advantage of having final hardware, we wanted to create a far bigger and better game by this time including 10 environments, as well as a whole bunch of new gameplay features.

Rather than having two "fixed" times of day, this time around we decided to use our time to create a dynamic weather system, which effectively creates a much more dramatic palette from which to work with. To show you where we're coming from, have a look at this screenshot crop sheet. This is something we use internally to compare our environments, lighting, and weather effects... but it's certainly useful for demonstrating the breadth of the game here!

We've never had to cut content to fit on the disc, and we probably never will.

Each next-gen format has its own merits. We should know, as we're currently developing games for all of them in one form or another. It's not a case of one system having less of this, and the other having more of that. As developers we are given a fixed platform, and that's what we work with. At the end of the day we're games developers, and we try to create the best we can irrespective of platform. We hope you end up agreeing with our design decisions when you see the game for yourself.

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

Spent too much time compressing because it is the DVD9.NobuoMusicMaker

Did you even read the post?

They wanted Day/Night Transitions

They don't have it.

DVD9 is enough...

Why isn't Day/ Night for all tracks in? :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

Damage Control ^^^

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

Frunku

LOL

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

Frunku

Thats what i was thinking. I'm on your side.

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Spent too much time compressing because it is the DVD9.terdoo

Did you even read the post?

Do you really even have to ask that question??

[QUOTE="Frunku"]

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

Cedmln

Thats what i was thinking. I'm on your side.

exactly why would they take the time to create it if they knew it would never fit in the first place?

[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="Frunku"]

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

GirlGirlGirls

Thats what i was thinking. I'm on your side.

exactly why would they take the time to create it if they knew it would never fit in the first place?

They said they wanted it anyway... it just doesn't fit.

Damage control, straight from the game maker.

''We can't fit night textures on the disk.''

Two seconds later:

''We've never had to cut anything.''

Nah, they didn't cut it. They just didn't create it.

Frunku

if PGR4 have 10 weather effects , does that mean a damagae control for you?

They wanted Day/Night Transitions

They don't have it.

DVD9 is enough...

Why isn't Day/ Night for all tracks in? :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

Damage Control ^^^

GirlGirlGirls

No, they couldn't fit day and night textures into the game, what game would have two sets of the same textures? :| They worked around it by creating a lighting model...it has the same effect.

"Rather than having two "fixed" times of day, this time around we decided to use our time to create a dynamic weather system, which effectively creates a much more dramatic palette from which to work with."

Obvious back tracking.

Someone at MS called BC and raised hell, now they are conducting damage control.

Pathetic.

from bizarre official statement

http://www.bizarrecreations.com/article.php?article_id=5257

As I'm sure you've seen, some of the comments made on our forum have been blown out of all proportion. This has been reported on certain web sites. It seems that a number of fanboys have jumped on the topic... sigh. So it's time we cleared this one up...

When we started designing PGR4 our primary goals were to create a great and unique experience over and above PGR3, to push the hardware as far as we could, and obviously to ensure that we give great value for money. DVD size is absolutely not a factor that we consider when designing our games... and PGR4 is no exception. DVD9 gives us more than we need to create a fabulous experience for you guys.

The previous game, PGR3, had five environments. That's how much we could create given our time and resources for that game. With the longer development cycle we've had for PGR4, as well as the advantage of having final hardware, we wanted to create a far bigger and better game by this time including 10 environments, as well as a whole bunch of new gameplay features.

Rather than having two "fixed" times of day, this time around we decided to use our time to create a dynamic weather system, which effectively creates a much more dramatic palette from which to work with. To show you where we're coming from, have a look at this screenshot crop sheet. This is something we use internally to compare our environments, lighting, and weather effects... but it's certainly useful for demonstrating the breadth of the game here!

We've never had to cut content to fit on the disc, and we probably never will.

Each next-gen format has its own merits. We should know, as we're currently developing games for all of them in one form or another. It's not a case of one system having less of this, and the other having more of that. As developers we are given a fixed platform, and that's what we work with. At the end of the day we're games developers, and we try to create the best we can irrespective of platform. We hope you end up agreeing with our design decisions when you see the game for yourself.

jrpgliker

cows better read this :evil:

now the cows are like

:damage control!!"

"they took stuff out"

Cows + their Damage Control

:lol:

some things never change.

Even when the devs themselves clear it up, its just not good enough

hummer700

Yeh they cut out a few things and dvd9 is still enough ...:roll:..they go back on their words now..lmao..everybody know whats the real deal about..even lemming like you..lol..they are jus goin to make the game and limit themself..pgr4 will suck big time..

I cant see how the game sufferend from that. It still has heaps of stuff, it looks good and has bikes.

Even if DVD9 is a limit somewhat, this is not the game that may suffer from that.

Here's what Bizarre had originally planned (not even a plan just a test).

Let's say you're racing at 7:45 in Vegas. Then if you're race lasted an 3 hours then it go from daytime to nighttime just like real life.

apparently this wasn't practical, and though one of the Staff mentioned disc size anybody that knows anything about video game production knows that it's not a graphical asset issue. Either the hardware wasn't powerful enough, or it would take too much time to develop, and not really be worth it. Since other 360 games have this feature it's most likely a time/cash restraint.

There's going to be set time setting so you are either racing in day, or night, but you won't be going inbetween the two in a single race.

Cows + their Damage Control

:lol:

some things never change.

Even when the devs themselves clear it up, its just not good enough

hummer700

[QUOTE="hummer700"]

Cows + their Damage Control

:lol:

some things never change.

Even when the devs themselves clear it up, its just not good enough

elementz28

Yeh they cut out a few things and dvd9 is still enough ...:roll:..they go back on their words now..lmao..everybody know whats the real deal about..even lemming like you..lol..they are jus goin to make the game and limit themself..pgr4 will suck big time..

All these arguments claiming "damage control" are ridiculous. Yes, they wanted night tracks before and can't fit them. They'd probably also like lots of other things, but no game system could ever hold them all.

ALL CONSOLES AND FORMATS ARE LIMITED. You can't just say because they didn't get everything they wanted, that now dvd9 is giving us a worse gaming experience. What if for GT5, Polyphony wanted drivers to get out of the car and have real time conversations with engineers? Or if they wanted a photo accurate cityscape that allowed you to purchase cars at real life dealerships. Oh, but BluRay couldn't fit that, so BluRay is limiting gaming. You can bet ambitions were even higher, but they had to be axed due to hard and software limitations...that's how it works.