Blue Dragon - Unfairly Underrated?

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#1 Sapph0
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I would like to find out why Blue Dragon on the 360 is falling short in the praise department.

I recently played my way through it and I have to say that I found it to be a truly stellar JRPG which rivals or betters nearly every JRPG I have played since the SNES days. For example, nearly every JRPG in the FF series after FF7 have declined in that very important factor of play... fun. Blue Dragon seems to recapture that magic, and, on top of that has one of the best battle systems yet devised, superb graphics and presentation that outshone any efforts I have played recently.

Maybe there has been too much blind worship of the FF series' direction recently, perhaps that has tainted a return to the simpler colorful direction that Blue Dragon offers... after all, it was this direction that won success for the FF series in the beginning anyway. Or is it the Sony fanboys that are a little annoyed that a JRPG like Blue Dragon hit the 360 giving it bad press?

What do you think? I think to call Blue Dragon an average JRPG is a very unfair for a game as good as this. I almost didn't buy it because of these comments.

BTW... I'm glad that the Japanese voice track was given as an option in this game, the voice acting the the Japanese is amazing. English voice dubbing ruins everything, so much is lost in translation. Use the subtitles, it's worth it!!!
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#2 ArisShadows
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I really enjoyed Blue Dragon.
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#3 MasterC5
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I would agree that its underrated but its no beeter then any of the other good rpgs this gen.
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#4 Dante2710
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if ur a JRPG fan, u would enjoy blue dragon, i still need to try out for myself
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#5 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I haven't tried it yet, but I have heard some good things from individual players. It's gotten mixed reviews, though.
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#6 ninjiijitsuu
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Kevin is a sony fanboy. he gave persona 3 an 8.5 and blue dragon an 6.0

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#7 Dencore
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he gave persona 3 an 8.5 and blue dragon an 6.0

ninjiijitsuu

What a Moron. Persona 3 didn't get AAA?

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#8 TriangleHard
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[QUOTE="ninjiijitsuu"]

he gave persona 3 an 8.5 and blue dragon an 6.0

Dencore

What a Moron. Persona 3 didn't get AAA?

I know right?

Persona 3 should've been 9.0

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#9 LoeJance
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there wasn't a "yes" option?
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#10 ninjiijitsuu
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[QUOTE="ninjiijitsuu"]

he gave persona 3 an 8.5 and blue dragon an 6.0

Dencore

What a Moron. Persona 3 didn't get AAA?

Persona is overrated, blue dragon deserve a higher score. IT"S FROM THE DREAM TEAM! persona 3 is from a group of nobody's.
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#11 Dencore
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I know right?

Persona 3 should've been 9.0

TriangleHard

Ehhh we shouldn't be surprised.

It's a niche title.

Same reason why Odin Sphere, Guilty Gear X, Third Strike, and Etrian Odyessy didn't get AAA, hell they didn't even get AA.

Niche titles don't do well on major publications.

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#12 TriangleHard
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[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="ninjiijitsuu"]

he gave persona 3 an 8.5 and blue dragon an 6.0

ninjiijitsuu

What a Moron. Persona 3 didn't get AAA?

Persona is overrated, blue dragon deserve a higher score. IT"S FROM THE DREAM TEAM! persona 3 is from a group of nobody's.

Dream Team was Chrono Trigger where Yuuji Horii was part of the game.

Without Yuuji Horii = no dream team.

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#13 Sapph0
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there wasn't a "yes" option?LoeJance
there wasn't a "yes" option?LoeJance

I put in an "other" option for yes, if you dont agree with the the other reasons. The "no" option covers the rest. :)

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#14 Dencore
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Persona is overrated, blue dragon deserve a higher score. IT"S FROM THE DREAM TEAM! persona 3 is from a group of nobody's.ninjiijitsuu

Oh.....my.....God! :lol:

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#15 TriangleHard
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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I know right?

Persona 3 should've been 9.0

Dencore

Ehhh we shouldn't be surprised.

It's a niche title.

Same reason why Odin Sphere, Guilty Gear X, Third Strike, and Etrian Odyessy didn't get AAA, hell they didn't even get AA.

Niche titles don't do well on major publications.

Odin Sphere, I don't think it didn't reach AA because it was niche title.

I think it didn't reach AA because it was side scrolling RPG based on Norse mythology.

That's my only way to accept Valkyrie Profile 1 and 2 including Odin Sphere didn't reach AAA, heck even AA.

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#16 Riverwolf007
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Who cares what score it got? If you like JRPGs play it, if not stay away. How does something being officialy recognized as "good" or "bad" affect how much you enjoy something? You don't need anyones permission to enjoy what you enjoy.
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#17 ginglejangle
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i hated it,im enjoying enternal sonata much more
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#18 majadamus
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I'm love SE and teh Final Fantasy...but, I thought Blue Dragon was a decent JRPG. It deserved a 7.5 in my opinion.
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#19 ArisShadows
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I'm love SE and teh Final Fantasy...but, I thought Blue Dragon was a decent JRPG. It deserved a 7.5 in my opinion.
majadamus

THat would been a better score, one I could even accept.

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#20 Sapph0
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Who cares what score it got? If you like JRPGs play it, if not stay away. How does something being officialy recognized as "good" or "bad" affect how much you enjoy something? You don't need anyones permission to enjoy what you enjoy.Riverwolf007

That's a silly point to make. That's like saying... "If you like FPS games you should play them all".

Games are expensive, most people, like myself cannot afford to buy or indeed rent every game that comes out, we have to prioritize. I don't take selective reviews into account or the comments of just a few individuals, I try to get all opinions and then decide whether to invest my time and money in a game. In the case of Blue Dragon, I felt that the majority of these reviews and comments did not recognize the quality of the game and that almost deterred me from buying it.

I would discuss why this happened, it does not happen often.

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#21 -R3Volation
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Blue Dragon was just odd... Playing some kids with a gene/dragon just wasnt for me.
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#22 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]I'm love SE and teh Final Fantasy...but, I thought Blue Dragon was a decent JRPG. It deserved a 7.5 in my opinion.
ArisShadows

THat would been a better score, one I could even accept.

agreed

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#23 Big_T-Mac
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cuz its gameplay and storyline is straight outta 1994???
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#24 Sapph0
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cuz its gameplay and storyline is straight outta 1994???Big_T-Mac

1994, hmm... not sure that can be called a bad thing if we're talking about JRPG's, wasn't that time of FF6, arguably regarded as the best of the FF games. :)

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#25 mistervengeance
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it was horribly overrated. it deserved a 2 in my opinion.

first time in my life i've seen the final fantasy guys fail hard at making a game.

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#26 Dencore
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Odin Sphere, I don't think it didn't reach AA because it was niche title.

I think it didn't reach AA because it was side scrolling RPG based on Norse mythology.

That's my only way to accept Valkyrie Profile 1 and 2 including Odin Sphere didn't reach AAA, heck even AA.

TriangleHard

Sorry to sound clueless but are you implying that they are so good that they would've still got AAA if they were regular niche titles since they are so good?

P.S. VP2 got exactly 8.0.

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#27 flintgijoe
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]I'm love SE and teh Final Fantasy...but, I thought Blue Dragon was a decent JRPG. It deserved a 7.5 in my opinion.
ArisShadows

THat would been a better score, one I could even accept.

An 8.0 would be more in line with other sites. Gamespot sister site Metacritic has it at 7.9 right now. That doesn't change the Gamespot score but it does mean that the game has been very well recieved elsewhere. If you like JRPGs this and Trusty Bell are both safe bets. .

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#28 BioShockOwnz
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Yes, it was underrated just like Heavenly Sword. Both games deserved a higher score than they received, but I don't care, I'll enjoy them and make my own opinion/review.
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#29 Cube_of_MooN
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I understand the rating. I saw my friend play it, and it just didn't seem very exiting. He spent an hour walking around a village doing errands and watching rather annoying cutscenes, and when he finally got to a fight, the combat was very disappointing. Overall, the game just seemed corny and underwhelming. But hey, I don't play RPGs too often. Maybe they are not my thing.
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#30 hoagey
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I'm still surprised JRPG's like this havent gone the way of the point and click adventure game.
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#31 user_nat
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It got what it deserved..

(and pretty much every other JRPG deserves that score imo..)

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#32 TriangleHard
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It got what it deserved..

(and pretty much every other JRPG deserves that score imo..)

user_nat

and imo that's the score all FPS should get.

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#33 toxicmog
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only if you like classic jrpg's will you like BD.

If you loved FF 12 battle system and wont go back to turn based. Stay away from BD.

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#34 Innovazero2000
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I really enjoyed Blue Dragon.ArisShadows

As do I. I didn't like the demo at al, but I bought the game. I'm on disk 2 right now, and I'm inthralled with it. I find it rather good :)

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#35 ninjiijitsuu
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Shall we bump thsi thread, or leave it dead?

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I would like to find out why Blue Dragon on the 360 is falling short in the praise department.

I recently played my way through it and I have to say that I found it to be a truly stellar JRPG which rivals or betters nearly every JRPG I have played since the SNES days. For example, nearly every JRPG in the FF series after FF7 have declined in that very important factor of play... fun. Blue Dragon seems to recapture that magic, and, on top of that has one of the best battle systems yet devised, superb graphics and presentation that outshone any efforts I have played recently.

Maybe there has been too much blind worship of the FF series' direction recently, perhaps that has tainted a return to the simpler colorful direction that Blue Dragon offers... after all, it was this direction that won success for the FF series in the beginning anyway. Or is it the Sony fanboys that are a little annoyed that a JRPG like Blue Dragon hit the 360 giving it bad press?

What do you think? I think to call Blue Dragon an average JRPG is a very unfair for a game as good as this. I almost didn't buy it because of these comments.

BTW... I'm glad that the Japanese voice track was given as an option in this game, the voice acting the the Japanese is amazing. English voice dubbing ruins everything, so much is lost in translation. Use the subtitles, it's worth it!!!Sapph0

oh god. Are you seriously comparing blue dragon with FF7? Seriously? blue dragon should be considered horrible when compared to FF7. Its below average.

Negatives:

  • horrible voice acting
  • repetetive music(seriously It has only 4 background songs)
  • cklasses have no depth
  • No sidequests in towns or between them, makes the game super linear
  • Horrible dungeon designs
  • characters have no soul
  • story is lame, cliched, horrible... seriously the story sucks. SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS. ugh!
  • The game is super easy!!! the bosses take only 4 to 5 attacks.
  • the game is so boring because of the ease in difficulty

Ugh!

unfairly? underrated? this game deserves a 6.5 or 7 at best.

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#37 bigboss5ak
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Yes im playing through BD right now, it is very underrated.
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#38 Datheron
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There's a difference between a game paying homage to an old school game and a game essentially being an old school game. Standards have risen since the days of Secret of Mana/Chrono Trigger/FFVI - battle systems have been revised and tweaked (die random battles!), storylines have gotten more complex, character creation/management/inventory have progressed beyond simply picking items out of a menu. A game that gives us FFIV mechanics (which doesn't play the nostalgia card, e.g., a remake) wrapped in modern expectations will not sit well for most of us who have moved beyond a simplier era.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Who cares what score it got? If you like JRPGs play it, if not stay away. How does something being officialy recognized as "good" or "bad" affect how much you enjoy something? You don't need anyones permission to enjoy what you enjoy.Sapph0

That's a silly point to make. That's like saying... "If you like FPS games you should play them all".

Games are expensive, most people, like myself cannot afford to buy or indeed rent every game that comes out, we have to prioritize. I don't take selective reviews into account or the comments of just a few individuals, I try to get all opinions and then decide whether to invest my time and money in a game. In the case of Blue Dragon, I felt that the majority of these reviews and comments did not recognize the quality of the game and that almost deterred me from buying it.

I would discuss why this happened, it does not happen often.

When did this go from being about Blue Dragon to every rpg ever made? Was there some rules I missed involving money? What I'm saying is don't be a weak willed sheep that gets your opinions from everyone else but yourself. Use metacritic if you want a more honest review system, they use multiple sources.
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#40 numba1234
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Unfairly Underrated? Hardly,

This is underrated.

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#41 Dencore
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score all FPS should get.

TriangleHard

FPS shouldn't even get past a 5.0 unless it says "Valve" on it.

Unfairly Underrated? Hardly,

This is underrated.

numba1234

I've never ever ever seen such a truer post in Gamespot history. :)