blue-ray is sonys downfall ???

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#1 rockstar183
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i think it is . with out bleray it would be selling much faster . dmc4 is going multiplat cuz of the poor sales .
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#2 carl2tan
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If sony ditched BD, and made it optional.  The price would be comparable to 360.  Sony would sell more.  I hope BD isnt the next UMD. . .
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#4 UnnDunn
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Blu-ray is absolutely responsible for much of Sony's current PS3 woes. If they had gone with a standard DVD drive, they would have been out a year earlier for $100-200 less and way outselling the 360.

Having said that, PS3 is doing wonders for Blu-ray. Without it, Blu-ray would be nowhere near the penetration it is now.

So they win some, they lose some.
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#5 SolidSnake2020
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I agree Sony is using the PS3 to advertise there new BLUE-RAY PLAYER, it is the main reason the console is expensive.

They should have sticked to dvd's.

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#6 ramey70
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Bluray may be the downfall of the PS3 but it won't be for Sony.  It appears that it will likely be the format of choice for Hi-Def movie media.  Sony will make a fortune on Bluray royalties for movies.
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#7 InfamousC
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PS3 does not have poor sales.
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#8 DS_fan_atic
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nobody really wanted Blu-ray, everyones just pretending they did...DVD is where it's at, and where it will be for a while.
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#9 rockstar183
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If sony ditched BD, and made it optional. The price would be comparable to 360. Sony would sell more. I hope BD isnt the next UMD. . .carl2tan
if sony didnt put blueray in it would be cheaper than the 360
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#10 tegovoltio
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DMC is going multiplat because of their bad financial position and because they hardly keep titles exclusive.
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#11 carl2tan
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nobody really wanted Blu-ray, everyones just pretending they did...DVD is where it's at, and where it will be for a while. DS_fan_atic
blu ray would be good for PS4 I'd say.
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nobody really wanted Blu-ray, everyones just pretending they did...DVD is where it's at, and where it will be for a while. DS_fan_atic
Many people, myself included, didn't invest in an HDTV to watch trashy DVD's. We can get 1080i/720p network broadcasts over the air, so it's only right we get at least the same for our movies.
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The media format is fine; the price of the system is not.farrell2k
Bingo. The only problem is that Blu-Ray is what made the PS3 cost so much inn the first place.
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#14 InfamousC
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[QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]nobody really wanted Blu-ray, everyones just pretending they did...DVD is where it's at, and where it will be for a while. ramey70
Many people, myself included, didn't invest in an HDTV to watch trashy DVD's. We can get 1080i/720p network broadcasts over the air, so it's only right we get at least the same for our movies.

Agreed I will be buying an HDTV soon and I don't want to watch DVDs on it.

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#15 InfamousC
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[QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]nobody really wanted Blu-ray, everyones just pretending they did...DVD is where it's at, and where it will be for a while. carl2tan
blu ray would be good for PS4 I'd say.

HVD will be good for PS4.
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Despite the problems Blu-ray caused for the PS3 early on, the Blu-ray capabilities is what is helping them out. Face the facts, Blu-ray has major supporters, more movies, and with its current lead it will win. I was an early HD-DVD adopter but most of the better movies are coming on Blu-ray now, and thats a strong reason why I bought a PS3 right now instead of later.

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#17 ramey70
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Despite the problems Blu-ray caused for the PS3 early on, the Blu-ray capabilities is what is helping them out. Face the facts, Blu-ray has major supporters, more movies, and with its current lead it will win. I was an early HD-DVD adopter but most of the better movies are coming on Blu-ray now, and thats a strong reason why I bought a PS3 right now instead of later.

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Agreed. If the PS3 didn't have a Bluray player I would probably get rid of it. Especially with DMC going to the 360 now.
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#18 DS_fan_atic
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*sigh* I have a hig def TV downstairs and we have an upscaling DVD player, looks fine to me...
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#19 ramey70
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*sigh* I have a hig def TV downstairs and we have an upscaling DVD player, looks fine to me...DS_fan_atic
Do you also think that regular definition programming looks the same as high definition programming?
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#20 rockstar183
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the ps3 is 600$ but it cost more than 800$ to make each ps3 . blue ray cost about 500-600 of that 800$ .. if the ps3 was cheaper it would be sellin better than the wii and the 360 right now .
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[QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]*sigh* I have a hig def TV downstairs and we have an upscaling DVD player, looks fine to me...ramey70
Do you also think that regular definition programming looks the same as high definition programming?

there is a notable difference yes, but upscaling DVD players go up to 1080i, pretty good no?

still the amount we're paying for "high def" boggles the mind...it's not even a huge leap if you ask me

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]*sigh* I have a hig def TV downstairs and we have an upscaling DVD player, looks fine to me...DS_fan_atic

Do you also think that regular definition programming looks the same as high definition programming?

there is a notable difference yes, but upscaling DVD players go up to 1080i, pretty good no?

still the amount we're paying for "high def" boggles the mind...it's not even a huge leap if you ask me

But therein lies the difference. Upscaling is fake, and it is noticeable. No matter how good of a scaler you have, your source content is still 480i on a DVD. That's less than digital cable. When you watch a show on Discovery Home Theater HD in 1080i it is jawdropping because what you see is what was filmed, it is a pure transfer. I want that same level of detail in my movies and I think I deserve it.
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#23 METALgearJES
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[QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]*sigh* I have a hig def TV downstairs and we have an upscaling DVD player, looks fine to me...ramey70

Do you also think that regular definition programming looks the same as high definition programming?

there is a notable difference yes, but upscaling DVD players go up to 1080i, pretty good no?

still the amount we're paying for "high def" boggles the mind...it's not even a huge leap if you ask me

But therein lies the difference. Upscaling is fake, and it is noticeable. No matter how good of a scaler you have, your source content is still 480i on a DVD. That's less than digital cable. When you watch a show on Discovery Home Theater HD in 1080i it is jawdropping because what you see is what was filmed, it is a pure transfer. I want that same level of detail in my movies and I think I deserve it.

Agreed. Upscaling to 1080i is not actually 1080i. Seriously, once you have a HD-DVD player or a Blu-ray player the visual quality it great. Also if you have Blu-ray player and a reciever with HDMI inputs you can experience great sound (uncompressed audio) which is even more noticeable than the picture quality. Check out Casiono Royale or Crank on Blu-ray and compare it to an upcoversion...case closed.

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#24 DS_fan_atic
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I also enjoy movie theatres! :D
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#25 DS_fan_atic
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but seriously, I just don't care that much about high def, I realize a lot of people do, and that's cool. But how crystal clear it looks, does not make a movie better...and that philosophy applies to games as well. imo.
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#26 METALgearJES
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I also enjoy movie theatres! :DDS_fan_atic

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#27 lilrush
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I don't know if you noticed......but blu-ray is killing it's competitor right now.
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#28 DisPimpin
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i think it is . with out bleray it would be selling much faster . dmc4 is going multiplat cuz of the poor sales .rockstar183
Blu-ray might be the PS3's downfall, but at the same time be Sony's savior.
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#29 ramey70
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I also enjoy movie theatres! :DDS_fan_atic
I hate them. I hate the people. I hate the lines. I hate parking. I hate it all. I'd rather bring the theater to my living room. So far, with several objections from the wife, I've done that. :)
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#30 METALgearJES
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[QUOTE="DS_fan_atic"]I also enjoy movie theatres! :Dramey70
I hate them. I hate the people. I hate the lines. I hate parking. I hate it all. I'd rather bring the theater to my living room. So far, with several objections from the wife, I've done that. :)

LOL, while I don't hate it, I am on the same level man. I spent way too much money on my Home Theater set-up. But in the end it is all worth it.