Blu-Ray (is it already too late?)

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#1 mouthpeace01
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by the time blu-ray overtakes dvd, it will be too late imo
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#2 Cooldude224
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Too late for what?
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#3 xscrapzx
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What do you mean? You have to be a little bit more specific then that, do you mean by the time it actually becomes like a standard there will be another format?
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#4 mouthpeace01
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Too late for what?Cooldude224
to have the same effect dvd had on vhs
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#5 Darthmatt
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The average consumer isnt going to DD every movie the want anytime soon. Also studios, and retail need physical media to survive. What good is it if everyone pays $3.99 to watch a movie once? And there are people who still like owning physical copies.
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#6 Cooldude224
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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]Too late for what?mouthpeace01
to have the same effect dvd had on vhs

Im still lost...

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#7 Deihmos
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Blu-ray will not take over DVD anytime soon. I only watch movies once so I don't buy any.
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#8 EmpCom
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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]Too late for what?mouthpeace01
to have the same effect dvd had on vhs

Your correct. Problem is too few consumers care about having blu-ray and while the price of dvds continue to drop this wont change.
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There is a big difference between this and the jump from vhs to dvd, the jump from analogue tape to digital disc was far easier to see the difference particularly if your player or tape had aged/was dirty. Not to meantion a lot of people HAD to replace films because the cassettes no longer worked, I have no desire to replace my dvd movies/series which still work 100%.
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#10 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Cooldude224"]Too late for what?Cooldude224

to have the same effect dvd had on vhs

Im still lost...

:o

Don't worry I found you!

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#11 Pessu
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Of course bluray will not have the same impact as vhs lol.

When dvd came out the need for a digital media was so big that dvd was almost revolutionary. Bluray is just the next step not a leap like dvd was.

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There is a big difference between this and the jump from vhs to dvd, the jump from analogue tape to digital disc was far easier to see the difference particularly if your player or tape had aged/was dirty. Not to meantion a lot of people HAD to replace films because the cassettes no longer worked, I have no desire to replace my dvd movies/series which still work 100%.csliney

I know that from analog to digital there was a pretty big difference, but you still notice a heck of a difference from dvd to blu-ray disc. Though I do agree it will be one hell of a long time before you can say dvd is totally obsolete. I mean even when dvd was pretty much the standard you still saw vhs around.

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#13 Newsboy
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Are you referring to Microsoft's planned push for digital distribution? Well, personally I don't think that is going to have quite the catch some are thinking. There is still something to be said about ownership, about America's consumeristic view of shopping as a keeper of the culture and of retailer's desire to compete against online shopping. Digital distribution will see it's day, but will never replace buying a packaged game completely.
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#14 JetB1ackNewYear
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yeah but what about that format they were talking about with 1 terabyte on it and said it was the same price as dvd.
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#15 jimhogg
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dvd hasn't been out long enough for people to want something new.

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Funny that 'format wars' are completely fine in SW if its bashing Blu-Ray/Sony/PS3. But if its a topic about how Blu-Ray is positive for the PS3, it gets shut. Xbox fanboy mods strike again...
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[QUOTE="csliney"]There is a big difference between this and the jump from vhs to dvd, the jump from analogue tape to digital disc was far easier to see the difference particularly if your player or tape had aged/was dirty. Not to meantion a lot of people HAD to replace films because the cassettes no longer worked, I have no desire to replace my dvd movies/series which still work 100%.xscrapzx

I know that from analog to digital there was a pretty big difference, but you still notice a heck of a difference from dvd to blu-ray disc. Though I do agree it will be one hell of a long time before you can say dvd is totally obsolete. I mean even when dvd was pretty much the standard you still saw vhs around.

The difference depends on the size and type of display. Imo the difference is hardly a big deal.

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#18 Jynxzor
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Blu-Ray has a long time to overtake DVD, Digital distribution is a long way to becoming a mainstream format...it will be very hard to overtake hard format media in general. They need to upgrade download speeds and bandwidth before they can even think of DD as the major format. Also don't forget security issues.
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#19 Newsboy
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dvd hasn't been out long enough for people to want something new.

jimhogg
I thought like this too until I actually got an HDTV...when I saw and heard Blu-Ray through an HDMI cable...it's love.
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does not mean that HDTV should not have something to satisfy there purchase of the thousand dollar tv. should there be one type of car, home or type of electronics. blu-ray is just an alternative not to replace anything. blu-ray is great just to expensive for me right now. but once they hit that 15 dallar sweat spot then bam i will only buy blu-ray. plus blu-ray will last longer because of the unscatchable disc surface.
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#21 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]Too late for what?mouthpeace01
to have the same effect dvd had on vhs

Blu-ray will become the successor to DVD eventually, and it is beautiful. Digital Distribution is too far ahead of itself to be a viable format for the masses.

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With the way things are going, early next year everything in the US will be digital. This will have more people buying newer TV's or trying those converter boxes to be able to watch any TV at all. This will also be another way that will help push the HD format (Blu-Ray) within the next year. And with the way prices are dropping on HDTV's there will be more people buying them and then they will in time change from DVD to HD because of the difference in the quality of the video.
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yeah but what about that format they were talking about with 1 terabyte on it and said it was the same price as dvd.JetB1ackNewYear

Yeah, I heard about that. Still uses blu-ray diodes i beleive, and its not slated for the commercial market until 2010. That's also the year by when I think blu-ray will become the standard. And once blu-ray sets in, i think it will last, loook at how long vhs and dvd lasted.

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#24 toxicmog
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does not mean that HDTV should not have something to satisfy there purchase of the thousand dollar tv. should there be one type of car, home or type of electronics. blu-ray is just an alternative not to replace anything. blu-ray is great just to expensive for me right now. but once they hit that 15 dallar sweat spot then bam i will only buy blu-ray. plus blu-ray will last longer because of the unscatchable disc surface.GARRYTH

your DVD's or CDs shouldn;t scratch if you take care of it.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]does not mean that HDTV should not have something to satisfy there purchase of the thousand dollar tv. should there be one type of car, home or type of electronics. blu-ray is just an alternative not to replace anything. blu-ray is great just to expensive for me right now. but once they hit that 15 dallar sweat spot then bam i will only buy blu-ray. plus blu-ray will last longer because of the unscatchable disc surface.toxicmog

your DVD's or CDs shouldn;t scratch if you take care of it.

you could be extra super careful, things will stillg et scratched, be it accidental, or from just being used alot

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#26 toxicmog
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With the way things are going, early next year everything in the US will be digital. This will have more people buying newer TV's or trying those converter boxes to be able to watch any TV at all. This will also be another way that will help push the HD format (Blu-Ray) within the next year. And with the way prices are dropping on HDTV's there will be more people buying them and then they will in time change from DVD to HD because of the difference in the quality of the video.jimm895

Really? Just recently America managed to pull itself out of a ressession, you know that means LACK OF CONSUMOR SPENDING!

They lowered intrest rates as a quick fix, but that wont help as the econemy still looses :roll:

Lol at america xD

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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Cooldude224"]Too late for what?Cooldude224

to have the same effect dvd had on vhs

Im still lost...

I am starting to think the TC doesn't even know what he wants to say.
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yeah but what about that format they were talking about with 1 terabyte on it and said it was the same price as dvd.JetB1ackNewYear

That aint going to happen anytime soon man, if ever. I think it might eventually work for data but not movies, especially considering all studio support is behind Blu Ray. Before we ever need a terabyte for movies (who knows, maybe a super huge resolution by then?) digitial downloading will be the norm, which I think is far down the road too.

By the way, you're brave to post pictures of yourself and gal on this site man. I salute you.

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Blu Ray will probably succeed to an extent but I highly doubt it will ever have the same sized market as DVD. Digital distribution and people who never change to it is going to water down the market substantially. I know a lot of people who def won't rebuild their DVD collection in another format.

So yes, Blu Ray is the next physical format but no, it will probably never be as big as DVD.

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#30 -Spock-
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The transition from DVD to Blu-ray has been faster than the transition from VHS to DVD, and HDTV penetration is on the increase around the globe. Blu-ray has already wiped out HD-DVD and is being adopted by more and more companies every month (Microsoft being the latest, and possibly greatest to show support). Then there's the fact that digital distro won't take off for a long time due to the current internet bandwidth limitations. So, I really don't see what you're driving at when you say "too late".

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#31 TMontana1004
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I don't think Blu-Ray will ever surpass DVD imo.
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Blu Ray will probably succeed to an extent but I highly doubt it will ever have the same sized market as DVD. Digital distribution and people who never change to it is going to water down the market substantially. I know a lot of people who def won't rebuild their DVD collection in another format.

So yes, Blu Ray is the next physical format but no, it will probably never be as big as DVD.

tm0054

Thats the beauty part. People act like consumers 100% make the choice to upgrade, we don't. They give us a new product and we show slight interest in it and next thing you know movie studios make it less a choice and more of the only way to watch all the movies.

Look at how DVD won. First DVD was advertised behind the VHS box, then slowly with sales picking up it was in front. Then prices for DVDs started to lower, then only certain TV series were on DVD and not on VHS. Then special editions were only on DVD and not VHS. Then by the time DVD players were 20 dollars many studios stop major support for VHS. Of course we chose DVD, we really didnt have a choice. The same will go with Blu ray.

WHo do you think supports blu ray, the SAME movies studios that support DVD and they will make the transition to blu ray just like they did for DVD, they will offere Blu ray exclusive content then blu ray exclusive movies and then drop DVD.

And the best part is we dont have to rebuild our DVD collection. They work with blu ray players.

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There is a big difference between this and the jump from vhs to dvd, the jump from analogue tape to digital disc was far easier to see the difference particularly if your player or tape had aged/was dirty. Not to meantion a lot of people HAD to replace films because the cassettes no longer worked, I have no desire to replace my dvd movies/series which still work 100%.csliney

Good point. The reasons that led to DVD's success are the same reasons it will be hard to take down. Those discs last a LOOONG time, and the quality is as good as it gets for 480p. The only noteable sales point that BR has over this is that it can play HD. It has a few other features, but not enough to convince everyone that it's worth the investment.

BR will be considered a novelty "perk" upgrade for a long time.

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[QUOTE="csliney"]There is a big difference between this and the jump from vhs to dvd, the jump from analogue tape to digital disc was far easier to see the difference particularly if your player or tape had aged/was dirty. Not to meantion a lot of people HAD to replace films because the cassettes no longer worked, I have no desire to replace my dvd movies/series which still work 100%.Bgrngod

Good point. The reasons that led to DVD's success are the same reasons it will be hard to take down. Those discs last a LOOONG time, and the quality is as good as it gets for 480p. The only noteable sales point that BR has over this is that it can play HD. It has a few other features, but not enough to convince everyone that it's worth the investment.

BR will be considered a novelty "perk" upgrade for a long time.

Actually I disagree. With DVD and VHS you had to CHOOSE, if you bought a DVD player you couldnt play your VHS tapes on it which made it obsolete. HD is becoming the new standard, TV, movies, cable, internet video, and games are all switching, of course our movie format will switch too. People will upgrade their TV with HDTVs getting cheaper and they will want movies and by the time casual shoppers have an HDTV blu ray players will be 20 dollars.

And the best part is the transition will be EASIER on the consumer. They dont have to replace their old movies to play on blu ray players, they keep all their DVDs and buy their new movies in blu ray. The move will be easier.