Borderlands is great, but one thing could have made it outstanding

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#1 Emmenite7
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I got Borderlands for Christmas, and I am absolutely loving the MMO-style, loot-driven gameplay. Finding new weapons is extremely satisfying, and the combat balances skill and stats absolutely perfectly. I am constantly reminded of all of the fun I had playing World of Warcraft, which got me thinking of Borderlands' multiplayer, which in some ways is the game's weakest aspect.

With the game's current online setup, you can either join games with your XBOX-Live buddies to complete quests together, our you can enter matchmaking and have the game connect you with players of similar levels to fight through a random mission. In my opinion, a much more enjoyable multiplayer setup would be one similar to that of Guild Wars. For those unfamiliar with the game, Guild Wars is an unconventional MMORPG in which the only truly "Massively Multiplayer" portions of the game take place in Hub regions like cities. In these areas, you can interact with hundreds of players – joining parties, trading, and chatting – but once you leave the hub areas and head off into the wild, the game loads a separate version of the game world only for yourself and your party, with the levels and numbers of enemies scaled to suit your needs.

If Borderlands did this, it would eliminate the need to enter a separate menu to switch from single player or multiplayer gaming. If you don't want to play with other players, you can simply choose not to join a party and instead do quests solo, while the existence of other players in hub area would still allow you to trade, sell, and buy the game's awesome weapons with others.

I have only seen this done on consoles in the game Phantasy Star Online, but I think that it most certainly can be done. What do you think?

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#2 Skittles_McGee
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If nothing else, that concept would make people interested in PvP (dueling, arena) have an easier time finding others to play with
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#3 SolidTy
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World of Warcraft has a monthly fee, and even Phantasy Star Online had the Hunter Fees.

It sounds like you want devs to put more out than would be worth it for them on their end. Such a hub would seem like a lot of work on the devs end, with little payoff. The goal of the games is to make the cheaply as possible, with maximized returns. I certainly wouldn't want to pay to play Borderlands.

Would I like your Hub Idea? Sure. However, I don't think it's worth it for developers to add such a luxurious feature in their games, since so many games sell millions of copies without having to do that.

I find Borderlands to be a decent game (story is nonexistant, and what is there isn't good, glitchy driving, etc.), but nothing that great, but the 4 player Co Op saves the game from mediocrity, and makes it much better. I've NEVER played Borderlands singleplayer, I've only experienced it with my other friends. I have enough singleplayer games when I want to play those.

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I've been playing the game for a week now and is there any bank (PSO) type of system where i can store unused items? Im about level 20 and havent came across anything yet. If there isnt then thats its biggest flaw.

What you suggest although is good, would suit Borderlands.

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I've been playing the game for a week now and is there any bank (PSO) type of system where i can store unused items? Im about level 20 and havent came across anything yet. If there isnt then thats its biggest flaw.

What you suggest although is good, would suit Borderlands.

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You can rescue enough Claptraps to get 42 backpack slots. But I'm at level 22 and have only rescued one (well two if you include the scripted event in Fyrestone). A persistent hub is kind of pointless, seeing as ANYONE can use any weapon pretty much, and only class mods are specific. I've given away more guns than I can use.
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#6 SolidTy
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I've been playing the game for a week now and is there any bank (PSO) type of system where i can store unused items? Im about level 20 and havent came across anything yet. If there isnt then thats its biggest flaw.

What you suggest although is good, would suit Borderlands.

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Your inventory opens up as your progress if you help those stupid robot wheel guys (claptraps), but that's it. They wanted you to choose only the best items, I guess.

Even Diablo and Champions of Norrath allowed for storage. Who knows why they made that design decision, but it's definitely deliberate.

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#7 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

I've been playing the game for a week now and is there any bank (PSO) type of system where i can store unused items? Im about level 20 and havent came across anything yet. If there isnt then thats its biggest flaw.

What you suggest although is good, would suit Borderlands.

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Your inventory opens up as your progress if you help those stupid robot wheel guys (claptraps), but that's it. They wanted you to choose only the best items, I guess.

Even Diablo and Champions of Norrath allowed for storage. Who knows why they made that design decision, but it's definitely deliberate.

I think it's most likely to sell guns and get money as a liquid asset. Because face it, sometimes you DO see sweet guns for sale at the vendors. And you really don't need 4 different sniper rifles...
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#8 Enraged_Bannana
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that is a very good idea. the game also needs a trading system, you can drop tradebutyou have a high chanceof getting ripped off if you don't know the person.

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#9 h575309
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Borderlands 2 (hopefully will exist) will rectify alot of these issues Im sure. No trading system seems like an oversight, the lack of any kind of real storyline, and no real banking systems are obviously its biggest flaws. Honestly, it doesnt matter much to me though cause the game is awesome so far. (lvl 15) My guess is Borderlands 2 will have more classes, a better story and better integrated mechanics. Basically, druel-worthy.

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#10 hamhero
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you dont pay to play guildwars. just throwing that out there for those that dont know. unless that changed over the years?

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#11 mtradr43
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doesnt everyone know that the new borderlands expansion gives you a stash?
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Mini map would also be cool and help navigation.

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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

I've been playing the game for a week now and is there any bank (PSO) type of system where i can store unused items? Im about level 20 and havent came across anything yet. If there isnt then thats its biggest flaw.

What you suggest although is good, would suit Borderlands.

You can rescue enough Claptraps to get 42 backpack slots. But I'm at level 22 and have only rescued one (well two if you include the scripted event in Fyrestone). A persistent hub is kind of pointless, seeing as ANYONE can use any weapon pretty much, and only class mods are specific. I've given away more guns than I can use.

If you buy the Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot DLC it comes with a bank. (and a spiffy claptrap with a tux and stache)
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#14 Arach666
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you dont pay to play guildwars. just throwing that out there for those that dont know. unless that changed over the years?

hamhero

Nah,it´s still free.