Breaking: Titanfall dev explains in more detail why it can't run on PS4

Funny thing is Sony had the cloud gaming service long before MS did but unlike MS Sony actually has good hardware for less money :lol:

My god cows are stupid.

It cant run on Ps4 due to their crappy cloud service.

b b b but gddr5

Evo_nine

They say more complex pfysics than we have ever seen before.

I find that hard to beleive when some people on PC are running dedicated mid to high end cards just for nVidia's Physx, or with AMD now starting to run with TressFX.

The way this game is being hyped I can imagine a complete Lemming forum meltdown if it flops. It is being hyped by Lems and then the devs come out with malarky like this which in turn feeds the Lems again.

IDK, guess we will have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.Mr-Kutaragi

What is it that Titanfall is doing server side that Destiny is not?  To me, that is the million dollar question.

[QUOTE="Basinboy"][QUOTE="robotapple"]I'm just posting news son :|

robotapple

They say more complex pfysics than we have ever seen before.

I find that hard to beleive when some people on PC are running dedicated mid to high end cards just for nVidia's Physx, or with AMD now starting to run with TressFX.

The way this game is being hyped I can imagine a complete Lemming forum meltdown if it flops. It is being hyped by Lems and then the devs come out with malarky like this which in turn feeds the Lems again.

IDK, guess we will have to wait and see.

danjammer69

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Quaker-w00ts"]

is it allowed to be banned for pressing the New thread button too many times and keep making threads about TitanFall?

I hope so, this is getting out of hand.

 

 

robotapple

How is this thread any different than the one before about how the developers said Titanfall cant run on ps4? 

this one: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416829/quottitanfall-developers-say-ps4-doesnt-have-enough-power-to-handle-itquot

why make a new thread? why just post this in that thread?

Todays article lays out the detail much more in depth.

anyway, devastating news for Sony imo

Titanfall is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

[QUOTE="Quaker-w00ts"]

[QUOTE="robotapple"]I'm just posting news son :|

robotapple

How is this thread any different than the one before about how the developers said Titanfall cant run on ps4? 

this one: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416829/quottitanfall-developers-say-ps4-doesnt-have-enough-power-to-handle-itquot

why make a new thread? why just post this in that thread?

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.navyguy21

Basically the game is built from the ground up using Azure, The Cloud, for AI, physics, the Map, environments and the like..  which is owned by MS. So in other words, you will never see this game on Ps4...  and the game will offer more complex AI, physics, worlds, and matchmaking than anything we've ever seen before because it's all being handled by azure.

This is why the press was so blown away at E3. It will truly help gaming to the next level.

 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-Azure-Titanfall-Dedicated-Servers-Respawn-Entertainment-Jon-Shiring,23234.html

By Kevin ParrishJuly 7, 2013 4:00 PM- Source: Respawn Entertainment

 

"The Xbox group came back to us with a way for us to run all of these Titanfall dedicated servers and that lets us push games with more server CPU and higher bandwidth, which lets us have a bigger world, more physics, lots of AI, and potentially a lot more than that!" he said.

Microsoft has its own cloud computing platform and infrastructure called Windows Azure, launched in February 2010 and created for building, deploying and managing applications and services through a global network of Microsoft-owned data centers. It provides both platform as a service (PaaS) and infrastructure as a service (IaaS) services, and Microsoft realized it could also power its gaming network as well.

"So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go," he said. "We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And theyll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

"But its not just for dedicated servers Microsoft thought about our problem in a bigger way. Developers arent going to just want dedicated servers theyll have all kinds of features that need a server to do some kind of work to make games better," he continued. "Look at Forza 5, which studies your driving style in order to create custom AI that behaves like you do. Thats totally different from what Titanfall uses it for, and it's really cool! So it's not accurate to say that the Xbox Live Cloud is simply a system for running dedicated servers it can do a lot more than that."

It's an interesting read, and certainly builds up anticipation for Titanfall, the potential of Xbox One, and what Xbox Live Cloud could do for PC gamers as well.

robotapple

Todays article lays out the detail much more in depth.

 

anyway, devastating news for Sony imo

 

Titanfall is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

robotapple

[QUOTE="robotapple"]You will never see a port on PS4. I_can_haz

Or MGS4...

To be fair, while is quite difficult for a game to remain "exclusive" in this days, i can see Titanfall skipping the PS4 and not because the lack of power but because there seem to be some other factors as well...i'm daring to say MS and $$$ has something to do with it.

Oh well, Titanfall loos pretty cool, but not a system seller to me.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.kingoflife9

ther are 720p games that look 10x better than 1080p games, its all about art and shading, not pixels.

In other words Always Online DRM, No Thanks!raskullibur

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.kingoflife9

ther are 720p games that look 10x better than 1080p games, its all about art and shading, not pixels.

I titan really confirm 7v7 online? Does cloud allow power of extra player on each team compare to 360 game? :lol:Mr-Kutaragi

The cloud is going to save the xbots from the 499 price or do you need extra servers for that ??

Basically the game is built from the ground up using Azure, The Cloud, for AI, physics, the Map, environments and the like..  which is owned by MS. So in other words, you will never see this game on Ps4...  and the game will offer more complex AI, physics, worlds, and matchmaking than anything we've ever seen before because it's all being handled by azure.

This is why the press was so blown away at E3. It will truly help gaming to the next level.

 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-Azure-Titanfall-Dedicated-Servers-Respawn-Entertainment-Jon-Shiring,23234.html

By Kevin ParrishJuly 7, 2013 4:00 PM- Source: Respawn Entertainment

 

"The Xbox group came back to us with a way for us to run all of these Titanfall dedicated servers and that lets us push games with more server CPU and higher bandwidth, which lets us have a bigger world, more physics, lots of AI, and potentially a lot more than that!" he said.

Microsoft has its own cloud computing platform and infrastructure called Windows Azure, launched in February 2010 and created for building, deploying and managing applications and services through a global network of Microsoft-owned data centers. It provides both platform as a service (PaaS) and infrastructure as a service (IaaS) services, and Microsoft realized it could also power its gaming network as well.

"So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go," he said. "We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And theyll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

"But its not just for dedicated servers Microsoft thought about our problem in a bigger way. Developers arent going to just want dedicated servers theyll have all kinds of features that need a server to do some kind of work to make games better," he continued. "Look at Forza 5, which studies your driving style in order to create custom AI that behaves like you do. Thats totally different from what Titanfall uses it for, and it's really cool! So it's not accurate to say that the Xbox Live Cloud is simply a system for running dedicated servers it can do a lot more than that."

It's an interesting read, and certainly builds up anticipation for Titanfall, the potential of Xbox One, and what Xbox Live Cloud could do for PC gamers as well.

robotapple

Well I guess that about sums it up. It seems that the Xbox One is the more capable console. However, I think the PS4 will eventually also have good exclusives.

[QUOTE="raskullibur"]In other words Always Online DRM, No Thanks!superclocked

:roll: Sure thing buddy. PS4 can't run this.....

 

 

BUT it can run this...

 

 

:roll: Hmmmm....who do I believe here moneyhatted devs or my own eyes?

I_can_haz

not sure whos the best poster Icanhaz or doyouevenlift :lol:

Todays article lays out the detail much more in depth.

 

anyway, devastating news for Sony imo

 

Titanfall is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

robotapple

It will move some units, but i doubt it will be a huge system seller.

Well I guess that about sums it up. It seems that the Xbox One is the more capable console. However, I think the PS4 will eventually also have good exclusives.

Baurus_1

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="raskullibur"]In other words Always Online DRM, No Thanks!gamebreakerz__

We need more threads on Lightning Returns.

Michael0134567

This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:

Nothing in there said it couldn't be done on the PS4. 

6 threads about titanfall on the front page... 3 of them different from 2 days ago... holy shit. 

This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:

no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Super old and doesnt mention ps4...

robotapple

This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:

superclocked

So...no story mode?

Basically the game is built from the ground up using Azure, The Cloud, for AI, physics, the Map, environments and the like..  which is owned by MS. So in other words, you will never see this game on Ps4...  and the game will offer more complex AI, physics, worlds, and matchmaking than anything we've ever seen before because it's all being handled by azure.

This is why the press was so blown away at E3. It will truly help gaming to the next level.

 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-Azure-Titanfall-Dedicated-Servers-Respawn-Entertainment-Jon-Shiring,23234.html

By Kevin ParrishJuly 7, 2013 4:00 PM- Source: Respawn Entertainment

 

"The Xbox group came back to us with a way for us to run all of these Titanfall dedicated servers and that lets us push games with more server CPU and higher bandwidth, which lets us have a bigger world, more physics, lots of AI, and potentially a lot more than that!" he said.

Microsoft has its own cloud computing platform and infrastructure called Windows Azure, launched in February 2010 and created for building, deploying and managing applications and services through a global network of Microsoft-owned data centers. It provides both platform as a service (PaaS) and infrastructure as a service (IaaS) services, and Microsoft realized it could also power its gaming network as well.

"So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go," he said. "We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And theyll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

"But its not just for dedicated servers Microsoft thought about our problem in a bigger way. Developers arent going to just want dedicated servers theyll have all kinds of features that need a server to do some kind of work to make games better," he continued. "Look at Forza 5, which studies your driving style in order to create custom AI that behaves like you do. Thats totally different from what Titanfall uses it for, and it's really cool! So it's not accurate to say that the Xbox Live Cloud is simply a system for running dedicated servers it can do a lot more than that."

It's an interesting read, and certainly builds up anticipation for Titanfall, the potential of Xbox One, and what Xbox Live Cloud could do for PC gamers as well.

robotapple

PR bullsh**..

And why the fu** do you need match making on Titanfall if the game runs on dedicated servers.?

By the way basically the whole crap means we use dedicated servers wow that is something new and revolutionary..Ooohhh ahhhh

Oh yeah i forgot that live was P2P so most of you don't know what dedicated servers are,let me break it down,is what allowed Resisance 2 to be 30 vs 30 on huge maps,is what also allow 8 players co-op on Resistance2,is what allowed mag to be 256 players.

Since day 1 the PS3 ran games on servers,when Gears or lag could not ran 4 vs 4 without host advantage issues lag and bugs,Resistance 1 was doing 20 vs 20 matches on stages 2 or 3 times bigger than gears ones,smooth as butter and lag free.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:robotapple

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:robotapple

Exactly, which it means that if i don't have Internet i won't be able to play it at all...now that is effing terrible.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]I do not heavily involve in such game, this is true. Respawn is independent, deal with EA. Azure present no advantage that competitor, even wii u, cannot also use. MS cannot overcome inferior gpu, inferior and less available ram, and gimp cpu due to lack of separate processor of OS and tasks. Where is this example of 40x power? Denying is silly, please do not cry. We know you are preference of cable box for gaming.navyguy21

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]This is devastating to to xbox 180 fans with no internet connection cause all the features won't work at best or the game won't run at worst  :lol:robotapple

Exactly which mean online mandatory but but but the xbox one will not require online,any game that uses the so call hoax cloud for so call AI will need online period,is a joke...:lol:

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

seanmcloughlin

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Heil68

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Heil68

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Heil68