Breaking: Titanfall dev explains in more detail why it can't run on PS4

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#101 Granny_Spanked
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

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He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!
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#102 superclocked
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Granny_Spanked
He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!

The mods erased the only response. Someone put, lol robotapple thread, said this thread is now about beans, and posted a picture of a can of beans... :lol:
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#103 Randolph
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Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.
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#104 Randolph
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"][QUOTE="Heil68"] He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!

The mods erased the only response. Someone put, lol robotapple thread, said this thread is now about beans, and posted a picture of a can of beans... :lol:

That is goddamned hilarious! :D
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#105 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Granny_Spanked
He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!

:lol:
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#106 AtariKidX
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Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.Randolph
This.
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#107 dxmcat
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roflwaffles.

MS still doing d/c after their DRM fail.

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#108 robotapple
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Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.Randolph
it's a videogame not a car... servers will probably be up for over a decade so i'd say you'd get your mobeys worth :|

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#109 Granny_Spanked
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[QUOTE="Randolph"]Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.robotapple

it's a videogame not a car... servers will probably be up for over a decade so i'd say you'd get your mobeys worth :|

What's a mobey?
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#110 NathanDrakeSwag
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lol robotapple thread

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars

robotapple gets mad when people say "lol robotapple thread"

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#111 Bigboi500
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System Wars has become a haven for Sony and Microsoft PR propaganda agents. I'm kind of surprised that more of you guys haven't figured it out by now.

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#112 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Lol lemmos banking on a dumb looking mech game as the savior of the XBOX One.  Can't wait for it to be a major flop.  

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#113 danjammer69
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Granny_Spanked
He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!

OMG right? He is mad that he has become the punchline to the joke that System Wars is becoming and then runs to the mods for help? YOU ARE THE PROBLEM MAN! Open your eyes! Damn hypocrite.
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android-eating-apple.png large.png lolrobotapple

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#115 superclocked
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System Wars has become a haven for Sony and Microsoft PR propaganda agents. I'm kind of surprised that more of you guys haven't figured it out by now.

Bigboi500
Yeah, it's like a special olympics footbal game in here...
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#116 Pitbulllova
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What happens if you play Xbox One on a sunny day?

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#117 pcgamingowns
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lol titanfall runs on xbox360 but not ps4

LOL YEA RIGHT

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#119 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Robotapple REALLY needs to STFU about Titanfall

Granny_Spanked

He gets butthurt and takes SW's way too seriosuly http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29416556/mods...-something-needs-to-be-done-about-systemwars :lol:

Goodness that's hilarious!

lol robotapple thread

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#120 Strutten
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[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.Mr-Kutaragi

ther are 720p games that look 10x better than 1080p games, its all about art and shading, not pixels.

This is dependent of hardware. In current gen, yes game can allow of better visuals in 720p 30fps compare to 1080p 60fps. MS promise xbone is 40x power with cloud. Yet, cannot runs source engine from two generation ago above 720p 40fps with AA, AF, low detail.

links for all the lies, you are posting? You should think before posting, ahh i forgot standard of cows on sw..

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#121 Strutten
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[QUOTE="Randolph"]Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.AtariKidX
This.

Massive facepalm.. ITS an online multiplayer lol.. (for the "my internet is down") .. And i seriously doubt that azure, that it will shut down( they will not shut down anything, that they are praising or "break". Guess its typical sw material..

And dont play the "bu bu but, what if i want to it 15years from now"

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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Randolph"]Sounds great, what happens when I get home to play it and my internet is down for an unknown amount of time? What happens when I want to go back and play it years from now when the Xbone servers are long gone? Fancy coaster, right on.Strutten

This.

Massive facepalm.. ITS an online multiplayer lol.. (for the "my internet is down") .. And i seriously doubt that azure, that it will shut down( they will not shut down anything, that they are praising or "break". Guess its typical sw material..

And dont play the "bu bu but, what if i want to it 15years from now"

What if I want to play the game with bots? Surely I won't need to be always online. Actually I will, because I will need the cloud for the 'enhanced AI'. More power>cloud.
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#123 Strutten
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lol titanfall runs on xbox360 but not ps4

LOL YEA RIGHT

pcgamingowns

Cows or just sw folks , should learn to read and understand that ITS because of azure(teh cloudzz) its only available on MS live platforms..

Cows gonna cow i guess.

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#124 jhcho2
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1. The article didn't even say that it can't run on PS4. But since it's a robotapple thread, I wasn't expecting more anyway.

2. If Respawn approached both MS and Sony, then it basically means it's gonna be multiplatform. MS merely has timed exclusivity. If MS held sole publishing rights to Titanfall, why would Respawn even approach Sony?

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#125 Krelian-co
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lol titanfall runs on xbox360 but not ps4

LOL YEA RIGHT

pcgamingowns

shhhh dont use logic, lems are immune to it

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#126 Syn_Valence
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The cloud is the cell, but the cell was actually USED for something, instead of a buzzword!

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#127 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

lol titanfall runs on xbox360 but not ps4

LOL YEA RIGHT

Strutten

Cows or just sw folks , should learn to read and understand that ITS because of azure(teh cloudzz) its only available on MS live platforms..

Cows gonna cow i guess.

If Titanfall was only possible with the 'cloud' as you put it, then how will that play out for X1 owners who are offline? Did you ever think about that for a second?

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#128 Strutten
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[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] This.gamebreakerz__

Massive facepalm.. ITS an online multiplayer lol.. (for the "my internet is down") .. And i seriously doubt that azure, that it will shut down( they will not shut down anything, that they are praising or "break". Guess its typical sw material..

And dont play the "bu bu but, what if i want to it 15years from now"

What if I want to play the game with bots? Surely I won't need to be always online. Actually I will, because I will need the cloud for the 'enhanced AI'. More power>cloud.

And again, did you just play that card ? ITS still an online FPS . Grasping straws huh? Do you say the same with lets say WOW? Dude its designed to be online only yet again? They went with ms, because they could provide them with azure.. It seriously sounds like either butthurt or just bashing because ITS on MS platform..

ONLINE ONLY

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#129 Strutten
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[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

lol titanfall runs on xbox360 but not ps4

LOL YEA RIGHT

jhcho2

Cows or just sw folks , should learn to read and understand that ITS because of azure(teh cloudzz) its only available on MS live platforms..

Cows gonna cow i guess.

If Titanfall was only possible with the 'cloud' as you put it, then how will that play out for X1 owners who are offline? Did you ever think about that for a second?

Yes, i did. Because its still an online shooter with ai and sp content to make it more Alive. How would you play an online shooter offline?

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#130 Dreamcast86
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The future of gaming is in the cloud. How powerful the box in your living room is irrelevant. X1 will end up with better looking games because Microsoft planned ahead more. ShoulderOfOrion
Future of gaming is always online DRM game rentals? Like people somehow wants this? No thanks.
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#131 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

Cows or just sw folks , should learn to read and understand that ITS because of azure(teh cloudzz) its only available on MS live platforms..

Cows gonna cow i guess.

Strutten

If Titanfall was only possible with the 'cloud' as you put it, then how will that play out for X1 owners who are offline? Did you ever think about that for a second?

Yes, i did. Because its still an online shooter with ai and sp content to make it more Alive. How would you play an online shooter offline?

I guess you're right then. Frankly I didn't know it was an MMO

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#132 Cranler
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Yet the demos show no complex ai or physics. 10 year old games like Half Life 2 have more advanced physics that whats seen in the Titanfall demos.

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#133 TorqueHappens08
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

Cows or just sw folks , should learn to read and understand that ITS because of azure(teh cloudzz) its only available on MS live platforms..

Cows gonna cow i guess.

Strutten

If Titanfall was only possible with the 'cloud' as you put it, then how will that play out for X1 owners who are offline? Did you ever think about that for a second?

Yes, i did. Because its still an online shooter with ai and sp content to make it more Alive. How would you play an online shooter offline?

Titanfall has a single player mode now?
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#134 Dreamcast86
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Yet the demos show no complex ai or physics. 10 year old games like Half Life 2 have more advanced physics that whats seen in the Titanfall demos.

Cranler
This. Titanfall doesnt even look very good, and have to use the cloud on day one because the hardware couldnt handle it if not? lol
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#135 silversix_
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Better physics we ever seen and grass doesn't even move. Another thing, HOW IS IT RUNNING ON PC THEN? That's right, PR bullshit as always from MS.
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#136 Strutten
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Better physics we ever seen and grass doesn't even move. Another thing, HOW IS IT RUNNING ON PC THEN? That's right, PR bullshit as always from MS.silversix_

Dude, why all the bashing on MS and x1? Its the devs saying this. They could have went with Sony, if they could provide a service like azure for their designs and so on. And as for pc ITS still via games on live if i rekcon. Again MS with cloud, not that a pc itself couldnt do it, but why not use all the way around on MS enabled platforms, if the could gives more free resources(ai, physics etc)?

And from my understanding x1, will use "the cloud, azure" better more fully.

Stop grasping straws and think?

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What happens if you play Xbox One on a sunny day?

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LOL, great
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#138 Dreamcast86
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Titanfall is a EA game. Microsoft and EA are ass licking eachother, there is Titanfall a Xbox One exclusive. Paid by Microsoft. They are desperate to show of their "POWAH OF THAH CLOOOUD".
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#139 thetruthfulgame
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[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.gamebreakerz__

ther are 720p games that look 10x better than 1080p games, its all about art and shading, not pixels.

But if you hold all other factors the same and bump up to 1080p+ on the PC it looks objectively better, that much you cannot deny. Not to mention shading, lighting etc is always and will always be superior on PC anyway.

i might not be able to see it but superior on pc non the less
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#140 OctaBech
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Yet the demos show no complex ai or physics. 10 year old games like Half Life 2 have more advanced physics that whats seen in the Titanfall demos.

Cranler
But they do run on the same engine, so Titan Fall could have HL2 like physics... Why it doesn't, I guess that's due to the overhead. No matter how powerful the server is, there's still latency between it and the player's xBox One, so it's better to keep the data sent between them to an absolute minimum (much better to have non gameplay altering physics calculated locally at each xBox). Dear OP, the content of this article doesn't bring anything new to the table, it's not touching on what people have been calling PR spin. The gripe is the idea of offloading real time graphics rendering, because no one has fast enough latency free internet connections to do so. Think of it this way, graphics are processed by constantly reading and writing to the RAM, which demands for a high bandwidth like 102GB/s to avoid bottlenecks (the processing units having to idly wait for the next chunk of data), which the average ~20Mb/s internet connection (with added latencies from the internet and even local network like sis using Facebook) simply can't provide (especially when the upload rate for most connections is even smaller than the download rate). Another problem is that you can't simply send a portion of what has to be rendered, because the graphics part aren't independent, ie you can't start calculating the lighting if you do not have all the environment and character models done and the same goes for AA. The xBox would have to wait for the results to be returned and the devs would have to balance the wait for all types of internet connections. What the article talks about is not argued against because it is exactly the same as what Sony's Gaikai does. Titanfall/Gaikai receives the player's button presses (very small amount of date, so even people with low upload rate can play when sis is on Facebook or using torrents)., then everything is calculated locally at the server (the many GBs of read/writes to memory), for finally to have the result sent back to the player in a neat small package; the Gaikai processed image or coordinates for players and bullets like in Titan or any other (M)MO game. The Forza player AI is kinda silly, it isn't realtime dependent, so the xBox One could calculate it when there isn't much happening on the screen (it's faster to render a screen when there's only 2 cars visible instead of 3, so just use the idle resources then or prolong the load screen by a sec or two).
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#141 delta3074
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:roll: Sure thing buddy. PS4 can't run this.....

 

 

BUT it can run this...

 

 

:roll: Hmmmm....who do I believe here moneyhatted devs or my own eyes?

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i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.
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#142 II_Seraphim_II
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So... Xbox 360 confirmed stronger than PS4? :P
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#143 II_Seraphim_II
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i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.delta3074
So im wondering how this game is coming out on X360.......unless the devs are just lying to market the Xbone.
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#144 super600  Moderator
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This is just getting ridicuulous. The game will eventually come to the PS4.And please go away robotapple/abonsabo/phonemug or whoever's alt you are

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#145 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.II_Seraphim_II
So im wondering how this game is coming out on X360.......unless the devs are just lying to market the Xbone.

360 has the ability to hook up to the cloud i would say, in reality every console does, it's just streaming using dedicated servers just like ONLIVE really, i am sure if SONY had a dedicated Cloud network they could do the same with the Ps4.
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#146 OctaBech
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i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.delta3074
No, it only says MS is providing them with free server infrastructure, the game doesn't do anything which hasn't been seen in games like Planetside and WOW. I'm not being entirely honest, because Azure's API does hide/handle the server infrastructure so the developers do not have to concern with programming that aspect, which is huge! But it still doesn't magically improve the performance of your xBox One.
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#147 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.OctaBech
No, it only says MS is providing them with free server infrastructure, the game doesn't do anything which hasn't been seen in games like Planetside and WOW. I'm not being entirely honest, because Azure's API does hide/handle the server infrastructure so the developers do not have to concern with programming that aspect, which is huge! But it still doesn't magically improve the performance of your xBox One.

Not saying it does improve the perforemance of the xbox, just saying that the physics and AI side of the game requires cloud.
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#148 Shensolidus
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[QUOTE="OctaBech"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i think you are missing the point, the developers are saying it NEEDS the cloud to run Physics and AI, graphics is a completely different ball game dude.delta3074
No, it only says MS is providing them with free server infrastructure, the game doesn't do anything which hasn't been seen in games like Planetside and WOW. I'm not being entirely honest, because Azure's API does hide/handle the server infrastructure so the developers do not have to concern with programming that aspect, which is huge! But it still doesn't magically improve the performance of your xBox One.

Not saying it does improve the perforemance of the xbox, just saying that the physics and AI side of the game requires cloud.

Physics and AI do not require cloud. In fact, Physics is a process that has to be done on the client side, as an online latency would be too large and with physics calls being way too unpredictable. For the people saying we won't see this on Sony's machine... oh boy do you all have some crow you'll be eating. :)
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#149 trasherhead
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This is not breaking news, this is just a rehash of what was said a week ago and it still doesn't say WHAT is being run on the servers other then dedicated servers. In which case, you only free up what CPU power a P2P functionality would have used.
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#150 megaspiderweb09
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I have no idea how The Division and Destiny were running on the PS4 or maybe journalist were just lying or perhaps those games were secretly running on the Xbox cloud, such BS