Bricked PS4? gotta wait till 2014.

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#1  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33967/sony-ps4-owners-will-have-to-wait-until-2014-for-hardware-replacement/index.html

That's when Sony will be replacing the consoles, so if you pre-ordered and stood in line all day to get your console, you gotta wait like everyone else.

terrible sony.

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#2 Snugenz
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Already a thread, but yeah that sucks for peeps looking to enjoy their new console over Christmas.

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I never had a console in my life. I am a PC guy but that PS4 Commercial- Perfect Day is one of the best commercials I have ever seen, brilliant job by Sony marketing. that commercial will make me buy a PS4

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Welcome to the real world, which isn't so perfect.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33967/sony-ps4-owners-will-have-to-wait-until-2014-for-hardware-replacement/index.html

That's when Sony will be replacing the consoles, so if you pre-ordered and stood in line all day to get your console, you gotta wait like everyone else.

terrible sony.

They don't have to wait. Just get an XBox One instead. lol!! I'm sure many will after the poor customer service Sony gave gamers. Over 2hr waiting to speak to someone on the phone, just to tell them there's nothing we can do. Send your PS4 to us. lol!!

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#6  Edited By blackace
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@tanerb said:

I never had a console in my life. I am a PC guy but that PS4 Commercial- Perfect Day is one of the best commercials I have ever seen, brilliant job by Sony marketing. that commercial will make me buy a PS4


The commercial doesn't even show the games or the system. Many gamers who weren't following the systems online didn't even know what the commercial was for. It had a nice cinematic approach, but it didn't show the goods.

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I read this earlier... yuk. I know this is unrealistic, especially in the day and age of big coorperations more concerned about their bottom line rather than their customer satisfaction, but Sony should take care of the people who already spent their hard earned money on their product before taking more from new customers.

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#8  Edited By CloudStrife213
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Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

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Sony is telling its customers 10-14 days.

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#10  Edited By peafowlplumage
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@crimsonman1245 said:

Sony is telling its customers 10-14 days.

Actions speak louder than words

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@CloudStrife213 said:

Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

I have no idea and the sad thing is not that many people have issues with the PS4 if you go by the numbers at IGN, which they said something like .4% of the PS4's are effected by the blue light or w/e, which was something like 4,000 people with PS4's. Surely Sony aren't that in low demand/producing/making PS4's unless they seriously had doubts about their system selling.

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Mine is sitting unopened in my room. Pretty sure I'll be selling it in a few weeks when they're totally out of stock everywhere. Really disappointed with Sony already. Terrible launch.

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i doubt they will be waiting that long, but they are probably going to have to wait. ps4 is rare.

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#14  Edited By SinjinSmythe
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There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

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@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

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@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

The funny thing is that Xbox people are just getting some payback for all the hate that Sony fanboys have been wrecking on the Xbox. I bet if the Xbox One has failures, PS people will be all around here trolling.

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@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

sure. Too many people bought them to turn a profit. Granted they are selling on there for a profit. the last one went off for $560.00. with free shipping.

Last gen PS3's and Xbox's were getting about $1200.00 during launch week.

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@CloudStrife213: i saw your posting in the amazon threads, good catch with the verified reviews.

what is your take on whats happening? is there a problem here?

why are all these ps4's for sale? i mean, my favorite reason would be they're selling it to get a pc, but i don't think that's the reason.

are they scalping? artificially suffocating supply in order to artificially raise demand?

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@CloudStrife213 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

The funny thing is that Xbox people are just getting some payback for all the hate that Sony fanboys have been wrecking on the Xbox. I bet if the Xbox One has failures, PS people will be all around here trolling.

Payback is always nice but I was doing that in other topics. This one here is a bit more serious. This problem will test Sony's customer service. If they had a whisper of this problem the should have prepared for it.

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@SinjinSmythe said:

sure. Too many people bought them to turn a profit. Granted they are selling on there for a profit. the last one went off for $560.00. with free shipping.

Last gen PS3's and Xbox's were getting about $1200.00 during launch week.

thank you.

ok well $560 with free shipping, the buyer has done ok for themselves. but i suspect these profits will only last until retailers get more stock. hard to sell for more than retail if units are available in the shop, lol.

i think some of these scalpers will only lose money.

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I've put in about 20 hours of solid game time with my PS4. It still works flawlessly.

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@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

sure. Too many people bought them to turn a profit. Granted they are selling on there for a profit. the last one went off for $560.00. with free shipping.

Last gen PS3's and Xbox's were getting about $1200.00 during launch week.

thank you.

ok well $560 with free shipping, the buyer has done ok for themselves. but i suspect these profits will only last until retailers get more stock. hard to sell for more than retail if units are available in the shop, lol.

i think some of these scalpers will only lose money.

Exactly. I think a lot of people expected to turn last gen profits and that isn't the case. There is a lot of consoles Sony got out and some stores still have them in stock.

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#24  Edited By CloudStrife213
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@CrownKingArthur said:

@CloudStrife213: i saw your posting in the amazon threads, good catch with the verified reviews.

what is your take on whats happening? is there a problem here?

why are all these ps4's for sale? i mean, my favorite reason would be they're selling it to get a pc, but i don't think that's the reason.

are they scalping? artificially suffocating supply in order to artificially raise demand?

I really don't know man, but we really can't deny that people are having issues with the PS4. It's up to Sony to fix this. If these are issues at a large scale, I don't know. It's too early to tell. Some PS4 units may be defective but have not failed yet on some. Maybe some defective PS4s are under Christmas trees, waiting to be opened, who knows. This console sold 1 million units, so it's hard to say.

But there is a rumor out that the reason this is happening is because of sabotage. http://kotaku.com/rumor-foxconn-interns-and-alleged-ps4-sabotage-claims-1466539573

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#25  Edited By Halosball
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You have to understand, the PS4 just broke all time records. The PS4 is the fastest selling console ever

There is too much demand for the PS4

And according to official stats, only 1-5% of PS4's have "bricked"

Its VERY RARE...

So i would rather Sony ship more PS4s to stores instead, so that more people can buy it and enjoy the PS4 as much as every one else is!

The very rare tiny amount of people who had a PS4 brick on them are just going to have to wait until Feburary. Its NOT A BIG DEAL at all.

You xboners certainly have NO room to talk after Microsoft's RROD fiasco against consumers

This is just desperate xboners in damage control mode after the all time success of the PS4 and trying to take any bad PS4 news they can get and blowing it way out of proportion

Keep trying! NOTHING IS STOPPING this PS4 freight trane!

Again, check the stats, only 1-5% of PS4's have "bricked

Thats really good, but of course in this day and age of the internet where any one can get on the internet and anonymously complain, the issue will be blown up way bigger than what it eally is

When anyone complains of a bricked PS4, i demand visual evidence or else i disregard it.

Sony is still acting upon it and doing as best as they can, but shipments to stores HAVE to be the bigger priority

THEN they can make shipments to replace the 2% of bricked PS4s out there

Hell, it took Microsoft 2 YEARS to do ANYTHING about RROD which was a MUCH BIGGER ISSUE, So xboners need to shut their mouths. Microsoft is BEYOND INCOMPETENT. You have it twisted, Microsoft is awful. Screw Microsoft and their shitty under-powered, over-priced, NSA spying xbone!

P.S Ive been loving my PS4! Killzone and Knack have ben amazing! Thank you Sony

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@SinjinSmythe said:

Exactly. I think a lot of people expected to turn last gen profits and that isn't the case. There is a lot of consoles Sony got out and some stores still have them in stock.

supply chain is too good. consumers can't raise demand artificially. good point man.

@CloudStrife213 said:

I really don't know man, but we really can't deny that people are having issues with the PS4. It's up to Sony to fix this. If these are issues at a large scale, I don't know. It's too early to tell. Some PS4 units may be defective but have not failed yet on some. Maybe some defective PS4s are under Christmas trees, waiting to be opened, who knows. This console sold 1 million units, so it's hard to say.

But there is a rumor out that the reason this is happening is because of sabotage. http://kotaku.com/rumor-foxconn-interns-and-alleged-ps4-sabotage-claims-1466539573

lol, imagine a dead ps4 sitting under the christmas tree. just waiting to be opened and still dead. what a shitty gift that would be.

sabotage? hmmm. well, after the suicide net thing, nothing about foxconn surprises me.

thank you both for this non-fanboy discussion.

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@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

Exactly. I think a lot of people expected to turn last gen profits and that isn't the case. There is a lot of consoles Sony got out and some stores still have them in stock.

supply chain is too good. consumers can't raise demand artificially. good point man.

@CloudStrife213 said:

I really don't know man, but we really can't deny that people are having issues with the PS4. It's up to Sony to fix this. If these are issues at a large scale, I don't know. It's too early to tell. Some PS4 units may be defective but have not failed yet on some. Maybe some defective PS4s are under Christmas trees, waiting to be opened, who knows. This console sold 1 million units, so it's hard to say.

But there is a rumor out that the reason this is happening is because of sabotage. http://kotaku.com/rumor-foxconn-interns-and-alleged-ps4-sabotage-claims-1466539573

lol, imagine a dead ps4 sitting under the christmas tree. just waiting to be opened and still dead. what a shitty gift that would be.

sabotage? hmmm. well, after the suicide net thing, nothing about foxconn surprises me.

thank you both for this non-fanboy discussion.

anytime. you are one of the few people I respect on here. Oh and Foxbatalpha too! He rulz.

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Imagine if this was microsoft. Lol what a mess I feelbad sony pulled the wool over their customers lies

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#29  Edited By Halosball
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@SinjinSmythe said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

Exactly. I think a lot of people expected to turn last gen profits and that isn't the case. There is a lot of consoles Sony got out and some stores still have them in stock.

supply chain is too good. consumers can't raise demand artificially. good point man.

@CloudStrife213 said:

I really don't know man, but we really can't deny that people are having issues with the PS4. It's up to Sony to fix this. If these are issues at a large scale, I don't know. It's too early to tell. Some PS4 units may be defective but have not failed yet on some. Maybe some defective PS4s are under Christmas trees, waiting to be opened, who knows. This console sold 1 million units, so it's hard to say.

But there is a rumor out that the reason this is happening is because of sabotage. http://kotaku.com/rumor-foxconn-interns-and-alleged-ps4-sabotage-claims-1466539573

lol, imagine a dead ps4 sitting under the christmas tree. just waiting to be opened and still dead. what a shitty gift that would be.

sabotage? hmmm. well, after the suicide net thing, nothing about foxconn surprises me.

thank you both for this non-fanboy discussion.

anytime. you are one of the few people I respect on here. Oh and Foxbatalpha too! He rulz.

Suprise, all delusional xbots lol

My goodness, watching you three xbots fellate each other in this thread is like watching three nutjobs in the corner trying to convince themselfes over and over again ..."xbone is the best....PS4 is so bad....it cant be better...it just cant be...xbone is better...NSA kinect spy cam is a good thing... the xbone's 50% performance disadvantge for more money doesnt mater....its about the TV festures and lame ADD inspired snapshot features of the xbone....forget the games"

You three are pathetic delusional xboners/losers

Ive done my best to FLAG each and every post in this thread from all three of you delusional xboners

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@BluRayHiDef said:

Welcome to the real world, which isn't so perfect.

Yea, but you have got to admit that truly sucks.

I cannot imagine why any company would not reserve a certain amount of stock for situations such as this, especially when they have a projected amount of systems that are expected to fail.

Expect .4% of your release machines to fail? Reserve .5% of stock for your customers that got a dead unit.

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@halosball:

In denial? Why not talk about the issues the PS4 is facing instead of bashing us? Oh, you can't because you won't be able to say anything, fanboy.

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#32  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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poor people who were caught into Sony trap

@CloudStrife213 said:

Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

maybe revising the internals since most of the PS4s out now are like a ticking bomb about to brick

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#33  Edited By SinjinSmythe
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@halosball said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

Exactly. I think a lot of people expected to turn last gen profits and that isn't the case. There is a lot of consoles Sony got out and some stores still have them in stock.

supply chain is too good. consumers can't raise demand artificially. good point man.

@CloudStrife213 said:

I really don't know man, but we really can't deny that people are having issues with the PS4. It's up to Sony to fix this. If these are issues at a large scale, I don't know. It's too early to tell. Some PS4 units may be defective but have not failed yet on some. Maybe some defective PS4s are under Christmas trees, waiting to be opened, who knows. This console sold 1 million units, so it's hard to say.

But there is a rumor out that the reason this is happening is because of sabotage. http://kotaku.com/rumor-foxconn-interns-and-alleged-ps4-sabotage-claims-1466539573

lol, imagine a dead ps4 sitting under the christmas tree. just waiting to be opened and still dead. what a shitty gift that would be.

sabotage? hmmm. well, after the suicide net thing, nothing about foxconn surprises me.

thank you both for this non-fanboy discussion.

anytime. you are one of the few people I respect on here. Oh and Foxbatalpha too! He rulz.

Suprise, all delusional xbots lol

My goodness, watching you three xbots fellate each other in this thread is like watching three nutjobs in the corner trying to convince themselfes over and over again ..."xbone is the best....PS4 is so bad....it cant be better...it just cant be...xbone is better...NSA kinect spy cam is a good thing... the xbone's 50% performance disadvantge for more money doesnt mater....its about the TV festures and lame ADD inspired snapshot features of the xbone....forget the games"

You three are pathetic delusional xboners/losers

You just went full retard over a normal conversation we were having. I think your mom is calling you up from the basement for your milk and cookies.

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#34  Edited By Halosball
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@CloudStrife213 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

The funny thing is that Xbox people are just getting some payback for all the hate that Sony fanboys have been wrecking on the Xbox. I bet if the Xbox One has failures, PS people will be all around here trolling.

Derp derp derp Microsoft and the xbone deserved all the HATE AND MORE...dont even get me started on all the examples..

IN fact a lot of the xbone hate was coming from xbox 360 fanboys too....so by your twisted and delusional thought process xbox fanboys deserve "backlash" too

But unlike you delusional xboners, the xbox fanboys who switched to the PS4 were still rational enough to do so

Really, for you to think of everything in a system wars fanboys BS light.

"Wha wah people made fun of the xbox i worship, therefore they deserve "karma""

It shows how truly pathetic and delusional you are.

Xbone WILL CONTINUE to get the HATE it deserves and theres NOTHING you can do about it...deal wth it Xbot.

And if there truly was such a thing as Karma you xbot shills would be erased from the face of the earth for all the hate, FUD, and BS you have tried to spread

P.S

I LOVE how everyone complaining in this thread is a known xbot who doesnt have a PS4 and probably was never interested in ever getting a PS4

You can tell xbots are in hardcore desperation mode right now

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@halosball said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

There is over 50,000 PS4/10 on ebay right now. Supply way over demand.

Sony should buy these back and give them to people that need them.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xps4&_nkw=ps4&_sacat=0&_from=R40

there are quite a few of them. now, i'd like to talk to you about this but if we could avoid trolling each other that'd be great.

agreed? agreed.

i am not from america but this is really interesting. what is happening? i know that ps4 is sold out, i imagine these people are kind of ... ticket scalping, but with ps4's?

The funny thing is that Xbox people are just getting some payback for all the hate that Sony fanboys have been wrecking on the Xbox. I bet if the Xbox One has failures, PS people will be all around here trolling.

Eee Microsoft and the xbone deserved all the HATE AND MORE...dont even get me started on all the examples..

IN fact a lot of the hate was coming from xbox 360 fanboys too....so by your twisted and delusional thought process xbox fanboys deserve "backlash" too

But unlike you delusional xboners, the xbox fanboys who switched to the PS4 were still rational enough to do so

Really, for you to think of everything with a system wars famboys BS taint.

"Wha wah people made fun of the xbox i worship, therefore they deserve "karma""

It shows how truly pathetic and delusional you are.

Xbone WILL CONTINUE to get the HATE it deserves and theres NOTHING you can do about it...deal wth it...

And if there truly was such a thing as Karma you xbot shills would be erased from the face of the earth for all the hate, FUD, and BS you have tried to spread

P.S I LOVE how everyone complaining in this thread is a known xbot who doesnt have a PS4 and probably was never interested in a PS4

Have some Karma boy. Once TitanFall drops your mom will be selling her soul to play it on a X1. Your friends will be throwing rocks at their PS4/10 .

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@jamejame said:

Mine is sitting unopened in my room. Pretty sure I'll be selling it in a few weeks when they're totally out of stock everywhere. Really disappointed with Sony already. Terrible launch.

they won't be sold out. you're going to be out of a loss

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#37  Edited By CloudStrife213
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@halosball

Are you a retard? I'm also getting a PS4. I'm getting both the Xbox One and PS4, so I don't really have to debate or argue about what I want.

What I've been advocating in this forum is that not all what Sony fanboys hyped up to be are what they expected, especially with all that they have been hyping about.

I just simply want to tell the truth to the people that the PS4 isn't really what fanboys hype it up to be and that they don't have the right to bash the Xbox One because of that. I provide evidence for the things that I post, like reviews, defective console links, graphics/performance analysis. I don't just provide a biased opinion like you; unlike you I provide evidence.

You are the delusional one for thinking that the PS4 does not have issues of its own. I know the Xbox One will have issues too and I am not blind to that since I'm not a delusional fanboy like you who refuses to even acknowledge that the PS4 has issues.

The fact of the matter is that you don't want want to acknowledge these issues because it hurts you, it pains you to see that there are issues.

Now go and play your shitty launch exclusives.

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@blackace said:

@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33967/sony-ps4-owners-will-have-to-wait-until-2014-for-hardware-replacement/index.html

That's when Sony will be replacing the consoles, so if you pre-ordered and stood in line all day to get your console, you gotta wait like everyone else.

terrible sony.

They don't have to wait. Just get an XBox One instead. lol!! I'm sure many will after the poor customer service Sony gave gamers. Over 2hr waiting to speak to someone on the phone, just to tell them there's nothing we can do. Send your PS4 to us. lol!!

As usual, you try too hard.

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@CloudStrife213 said:

Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

Can't make enough consoles to keep up with demand, so they have no extra consoles to replace the defective ones.

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@AmazonTreeBoa: xbox show my gamespot

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#41  Edited By CloudStrife213
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

Can't make enough consoles to keep up with demand, so they have no extra consoles to replace the defective ones.

So they aren't able to just repair those consoles? Meaning the system requires a complete replacement?

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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@CloudStrife213 said:

Why would it take that long to replace or repair the console?

Can't make enough consoles to keep up with demand, so they have no extra consoles to replace the defective ones.

When I read that it made me think of Titanic "The water is freezing and there aren't enough lifeboats"

Sad what happens next.

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#43 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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There's already a topic on this.