bu but all teh fanboy gaming experts said the Xbox 360 is maxed out?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48793.html

watch the Captivate 09: Enormity Interview

looks like LP2 ups the ante again :cry:

damn you capcom

The problem is that the term "maxed out" is utterly moronic. A terrible looking, poorly optimized game can "max out" a system whereas a great looking, well optimized game won't.

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yet

I didn't find that all too impressive.

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yet

obamanian

those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.mglbpkillz

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

As for KZ2, has some of the most mediocre visuals i have seen, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 have vastly better detail, scale and lighting, abd these games above make it look joke to me

this game looks amazing

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"] those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.obamanian

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

The 360 is one of the most underrated systems ever!!! Just note how most ppl do not expect better graphics than it has now, but on the other hand everyone thinks PS3 will improve its graphics all the time.

In fact, we are 3 years into this gen now and i havent seen games on PS3 that 360 cant do. Still, everytime a game comes out, it looks better on 360. From the bad ones (SKATE, Fear2, Ridick, etc) to the great ones (Fallout3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, etc)!

Its annoying how hype work :?

omg another thread about how one console is able to generate one grain of sand with better contrast and shading over the other... i give a f--you know. With all this focus on petty details in graphics it's no wonder I'm seeing more flash, guns, **** and explosions to suffice for good storytelling and creative gameplay.

The 360 is one of the most underrated systems ever!!! Just note how most ppl do not expect better graphics than it has now, but on the other hand everyone thinks PS3 will improve its graphics all the time.

In fact, we are 3 years into this gen now and i havent seen games on PS3 that 360 cant do. Still, everytime a game comes out, it looks better on 360. From the bad ones (SKATE, Fear2, Ridick, etc) to the great ones (Fallout3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, etc)!

Its annoying how hype work :?

PAL360

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

I'm not particularly impressed. I think there are many games that look better on the 360 already.

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yetobamanian

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

The 360 is one of the most underrated systems ever!!! Just note how most ppl do not expect better graphics than it has now, but on the other hand everyone thinks PS3 will improve its graphics all the time.

In fact, we are 3 years into this gen now and i havent seen games on PS3 that 360 cant do. Still, everytime a game comes out, it looks better on 360. From the bad ones (SKATE, Fear2, Ridick, etc) to the great ones (Fallout3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, etc)!

Its annoying how hype work :?

finalfantasy94

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

Thats not my point and you know that.

My point is that theres no proove that PS3 is more powerfull than the 360. It doesnt matter how better is the 360 version compared to the PS3 one. 360 version has 1 pixel more? Well, i would expect the most powerfull system (PS3 according to some) to have the 1 pixel advantage...

If something, the 360 has the edge (at least you have multiplats to compare). But again, sonys hype is more powerfull than the actual facts.

why do people keep saying LP2 looks soo good. it looks no different from the first. i see nothing amazing in terms of graphics.TheMistique

People love to hype thats why. Im not going to lie the game looks good. It just looks more shiny then the first one.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

The 360 is one of the most underrated systems ever!!! Just note how most ppl do not expect better graphics than it has now, but on the other hand everyone thinks PS3 will improve its graphics all the time.

In fact, we are 3 years into this gen now and i havent seen games on PS3 that 360 cant do. Still, everytime a game comes out, it looks better on 360. From the bad ones (SKATE, Fear2, Ridick, etc) to the great ones (Fallout3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, etc)!

Its annoying how hype work :?

PAL360

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

Thats not my point and you know that.

My point is that theres no proove that PS3 is more powerfull than the 360. It doesnt matter how better is the 360 version compared to the PS3 one. 360 version has 1 pixel more? Well, i would expect the most powerfull system (PS3 according to some) to have the 1 pixel advantage...

If something, the 360 has the edge (at least you have multiplats to compare). But again, sonys hype is more powerfull than the actual facts.

Its just to me exclusive games should be the prime example of what a system really can do. Since it lets the dev focus Solly on that machine and not have to stretch out.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

finalfantasy94

Thats not my point and you know that.

My point is that theres no proove that PS3 is more powerfull than the 360. It doesnt matter how better is the 360 version compared to the PS3 one. 360 version has 1 pixel more? Well, i would expect the most powerfull system (PS3 according to some) to have the 1 pixel advantage...

If something, the 360 has the edge (at least you have multiplats to compare). But again, sonys hype is more powerfull than the actual facts.

Its just to me exclusive games should be the prime example of what a system really can do. Since it lets the dev focus Solly on that machine and not have to stretch out.

Yep, and where is that huge lineup of PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears2. I only see KZ2. Anyway, the problem of comparing apples to oranges is that its all a matter of opinion

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"] those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.obamanian

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

As for KZ2, has some of the most mediocre visuals i have seen, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 have vastly better detail, scale and lighting, abd these games above make it look joke to me

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Yah, it isn't a very smart comment is it? But lots of games have used all the power they can, but that's because they're poorly optimized. Like, this isn't a real example, but I'll just give it.

Say Gears of War used 100% CPU and GPU power to run, but Epic learned how to use the 360's hardware so Gears of War 2 only used 60%, but looks slightly better, and more polished.

Really though, only morons say the power of a system gets maxed out. I'm pretty certain it has never happened on any system where a game takes it so such extreme that it requires all the power of the system, and is so incredibly optimized that you can't do better. Not gonna happen.

why do people keep saying LP2 looks soo good. it looks no different from the first. i see nothing amazing in terms of graphics.TheMistique

Anyone who truly believes the Xbox 360 is "maxed out" is seriously misinformed.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

The 360 is one of the most underrated systems ever!!! Just note how most ppl do not expect better graphics than it has now, but on the other hand everyone thinks PS3 will improve its graphics all the time.

In fact, we are 3 years into this gen now and i havent seen games on PS3 that 360 cant do. Still, everytime a game comes out, it looks better on 360. From the bad ones (SKATE, Fear2, Ridick, etc) to the great ones (Fallout3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, etc)!

Its annoying how hype work :?

finalfantasy94

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"] those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.-Melix-

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

As for KZ2, has some of the most mediocre visuals i have seen, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 have vastly better detail, scale and lighting, abd these games above make it look joke to me

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"] those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.-Melix-

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

As for KZ2, has some of the most mediocre visuals i have seen, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 have vastly better detail, scale and lighting, abd these games above make it look joke to me

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Haven't you noticed that every PS3 exlcusive is the "graphics king" ? It is just hype, has nothing to do with reality for me, when i see small tiny levels, mediocre textures and static lighting, i can't possibly say that is betetr than a huge open world, with forests and detail, dynamic lighting and volumetric dynamic light beams and 2x more NPC's on screen

Sorry, i simply can't agree with hype, i judge games by what i see on my screen, and in KZ2 all i saw wasstatic lighting, tiny levels and mediocre textures and heavy blur, the shading/animation were top, but those alone are not enough

In short, no, KZ2 is not "graphics king", if that label has any meaning with Crysis around anyway

Also MGS4 is one of the worst looking games i have seen in my life, in game, and yet hype made it get awards for the terrible visuals, so why would i ever accept the "opinions" of some blind people ?

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

360 gewts these games, and will look about same, as every single other multipltform title anyway

As for KZ2, has some of the most mediocre visuals i have seen, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 have vastly better detail, scale and lighting, abd these games above make it look joke to me

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Haven't you noticed that every PS3 exlcusive is the "graphics king" ? It is just hype, has nothing to do with reality for me, when i see small tiny levels, mediocre textures and static lighting, i can't possibly say that is betetr than a huge open world, with forests and detail, dynamic lighting and volumetric dynamic light beams and 2x more NPC's on screen

Sorry, i simply can't agree with hype, i judge games by what i see on my screen, and in KZ2 all i saw wasstatic lighting, tiny levels and mediocre textures and heavy blur, the shading/animation were top, but those alone are not enough

In short, no, KZ2 is not "graphics king", if that label has any meaning with Crysis around anyway

Also MGS4 is one of the worst looking games i have seen in my life, in game, and yet hype made it get awards for the terrible visuals, so why would i ever accept the "opinions" of some blind people ?

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Haven't you noticed that every PS3 exlcusive is the "graphics king" ? It is just hype, has nothing to do with reality for me, when i see small tiny levels, mediocre textures and static lighting, i can't possibly say that is betetr than a huge open world, with forests and detail, dynamic lighting and volumetric dynamic light beams and 2x more NPC's on screen

Sorry, i simply can't agree with hype, i judge games by what i see on my screen, and in KZ2 all i saw wasstatic lighting, tiny levels and mediocre textures and heavy blur, the shading/animation were top, but those alone are not enough

In short, no, KZ2 is not "graphics king", if that label has any meaning with Crysis around anyway

Also MGS4 is one of the worst looking games i have seen in my life, in game, and yet hype made it get awards for the terrible visuals, so why would i ever accept the "opinions" of some blind people ?

Im sorry but if you think MGS4 is one of the worst looking games ever, you must have pretty high standards, or not be playing on a HDTV.

I'm not particularly impressed. I think there are many games that look better on the 360 already.

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yetagentfred

Well, considering so far the differnce in games like Mass Effect, Fallout 3 etc is negligible, they will clearly be 99% similar, a bit crisper on PC probably

360 is a beast in hardware

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yet

mglbpkillz

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

MEDICORE visuals?? Then why is it console grpahics king? Take your fanboy goggles of an watch this comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Stringerboy

Haven't you noticed that every PS3 exlcusive is the "graphics king" ? It is just hype, has nothing to do with reality for me, when i see small tiny levels, mediocre textures and static lighting, i can't possibly say that is betetr than a huge open world, with forests and detail, dynamic lighting and volumetric dynamic light beams and 2x more NPC's on screen

Sorry, i simply can't agree with hype, i judge games by what i see on my screen, and in KZ2 all i saw wasstatic lighting, tiny levels and mediocre textures and heavy blur, the shading/animation were top, but those alone are not enough

In short, no, KZ2 is not "graphics king", if that label has any meaning with Crysis around anyway

Also MGS4 is one of the worst looking games i have seen in my life, in game, and yet hype made it get awards for the terrible visuals, so why would i ever accept the "opinions" of some blind people ?

Im sorry but if you think MGS4 is one of the worst looking games ever, you must have pretty high standards, or not be playing on a HDTV.

I do not have that high standards, i just do not like the visuals in empty looking, with mediocre textures and tiny worlds games like MGS4

The below are 720p HD pics, in game, and they look like one of the worst looking games ever created to me

When a game looks a million miles behind Kameo, a launch 360 title, it is not my "high standards" that make me not like it visually

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

SF4 looks exacly the same and dont pull the eurogamer site. One pixel over there doesint make the game looks better.

finalfantasy94

Thats not my point and you know that.

My point is that theres no proove that PS3 is more powerfull than the 360. It doesnt matter how better is the 360 version compared to the PS3 one. 360 version has 1 pixel more? Well, i would expect the most powerfull system (PS3 according to some) to have the 1 pixel advantage...

If something, the 360 has the edge (at least you have multiplats to compare). But again, sonys hype is more powerfull than the actual facts.

Its just to me exclusive games should be the prime example of what a system really can do. Since it lets the dev focus Solly on that machine and not have to stretch out.

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

With the below games coming to 360 in 2009-early 2010, i doubt it has been used at all yet

Nerkcon

Actually Two Worlds Temptation is a WIP, and the visuals so far are some of the most spectacular i have ever seen in my gaming life, they are not only breathtaking, but given the world will be the biggest game world by miles in 2009 and the art is so stunning, it could well put Crysis to real shame in multiple levels, like in the pic below

What edited image ?

These are taken directly from various websites, if they tempered with the pics is their problem

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]

[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"] those are the PC images the 360 is maxed out it's just a mini PC it could never come out with graphics ala killzone 2 unless they build a next gen console.

obamanian

Actually Two Worlds Temptation is a WIP, and the visuals so far are some of the most spectacular i have ever seen in my gaming life, they are not only breathtaking, but given the world will be the biggest game world by miles in 2009 and the art is so stunning, it could well put Crysis to real shame in multiple levels, like in the pic below

(Picture)

That one looks a lot better than the other ones but it still has the same problems; the grass, tree brances, and leaves look like they are 2D(flat). The wood on the trees looks looks very solid like it was plastic (unless they're wet or somehting), I can't tell if the water was suppose to be clear or not but it does not look like real water, and it does not look like realistic dity water or pretty clean water (I can't tell what they were trying to do). The lighting, it looks like it's just rising, were it gives off the brief moment of blinding light. But the other screens when the light was so bright as if you were looking right at the sun was laughable.

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] The Two Worlds: Temptation screens did not really look any good. There was; shaggy shadow textures, 2D grass, plastic looking characters, they tried to over it all up with an unrealistic amount of eye blinding bright lighting. The rest look pretty good though instead of some of the screens from the second game with were obviously not in game.

Nerkcon

Actually Two Worlds Temptation is a WIP, and the visuals so far are some of the most spectacular i have ever seen in my gaming life, they are not only breathtaking, but given the world will be the biggest game world by miles in 2009 and the art is so stunning, it could well put Crysis to real shame in multiple levels, like in the pic below

(Picture)

That one looks a lot better than the other ones but it still has the same problems; the grass, tree brances, and leaves look like they are 2D(flat). The wood on the trees looks looks very solid like it was plastic (unless they're wet or somehting), I can't tell if the water was suppose to be clear or not but it does not look like real water, and it does not look like realistic dity water or pretty clean water (I can't tell what they were trying to do). The lighting, it looks like it's just rising, were it gives off the brief moment of blinding light. But the other screens when the light was so bright as if you were looking right at the sun was laughable.

Well, they look a lot more 3D and like Crysis to me, or even better, i see nothing 2D about them TBH

Also that pic was the latest one, and is also months old now, so we will see

Right now, TW2 is the best looking game in 2009 for me by a good mile, and has real time ocean waves and physics too !!!

One thread about Lost Planet 2 is enough.