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#1 oldbrettc
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I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong. Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

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#3 Dead-Memories
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i didn't know looking at bullshots prior to playing a game has any impact on the enjoyment

thanks for letting me know bruh

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I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong. Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

oldbrettc
I have absolutely no problem with bullshots because everyone uses them. I like how you refer to Epic for their Gears bullshots when Killzone, Halo, and even SMG all have used them in the past to promote their upcoming games. Please don't have double standards, please.
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#5 timmy00
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I think I need some sleep.

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#6 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris
What about Killzone 2, they had screens that were extremely touched up. I believe even GG came out and apologized for it.
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#7 Frostbite24
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris
Misinformed poster is misinformed. To actually point a finger at a particular group when referring to bullshot usage is outright ignorant. Period.
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#8 Vaasman
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris

Right because cows and sheep would never use bullshots of Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GT5, Mario Galaxy, OR Conduit. Oh wait...

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#9 oldbrettc
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[QUOTE="oldbrettc"]

I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong. Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

Frostbite24

I have absolutely no problem with bullshots because everyone uses them. I like how you refer to Epic for their Gears bullshots when Killzone, Halo, and even SMG all have used them in the past to promote their upcoming games. Please don't have double standards, please.

Sorry for the example of Epic. Came to mind first. I know many use them, just the first to come to mind. I didn't want to list all or I would have gotten the "BLOG IT" reply.

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#10 juan530
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris
actually its not only the lemmings that post bullshots
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#11 oldbrettc
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Okay, not singling out Epic or Xbox or PS3. Just really referring to the shots. Used an example, that's all. FTR I love gears. Just give me your opinion on the shots, no matter the game or developer. How's that?

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#12 Cherokee_Jack
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Wordplay! I can't say I really care. As long as the final game is in the same ballpark graphically, they can touch screens up however they want.
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#13 Litchie
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Screenshots of a game not representing what the game actually looks like is annoying indeed, but what the hell. I'll just keep that in mind and see what it looks like in videos instead.
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#14 Frostbite24
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If one particular developer or system was solely putting out bullshots then I would also be very annoyed, but as it is, everyone puts out pics that turn out to be not indicative of the final product. So I feel it all is fair.

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#15 AAllxxjjnn
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Bullshots don't really bother me at all.
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#16 Nerd_Man
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It's kinda annoying when bullshots come into play in SW when ignorant posters make graphics related threads and post nothing but bullshots. People should know better.
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I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong.Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

oldbrettc

very strange and self ownage since ur article state killzone 2 has bullshots

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#18 Chutebox  Online
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris
Eh, cows and lemmings do it just as much as the other.
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#19 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="oldbrettc"]

I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong.Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

pc-ps360

very strange and self ownage since ur article state killzone 2 has bullshots

How is it self-ownage? He isn't saying Epic are the only ones to do it, just that they come to his mind.
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#20 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

Chutebox
Eh, cows and lemmings do it just as much as the other.

Even sheep do that
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#21 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot.
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#22 edinsftw
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It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot. ferret-gamer

Yea...we actually have AA. Lols

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#23 Pug-Nasty
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The biggest disparity between bullshots and gameplay in recent memory has to be Haze.

Oddly enough, the "bullshot" of KZ2 in that article looks closer to what I got on my TV than the e3 footage they posted, I wonder why they used an e3 trailer instead of retail release for the article.

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#24 opex07
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I personally believe that the word Bullshot is used too freely on this forum, just because a screen shot may have more AA than the actual game itself I do not believe it warrants the need for posters to continually post "bullshot" complaints, especially when most Aliasing today is reduced due to the inclusion of motion blur, while actually playing the game. If I were to post early pictures of Haze or replay screenshots of Forza/GT5 as why I believe those games look good then I believe such a situation deserves the use of the word bullshot, but most uses today do not.

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#25 shane_orija
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It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot. ferret-gamer
What the?! And to think that us PC fans could only invade graphics comparison screens.

Anyway, it sucks that console users use bullshots to hype up a game even when they know the truth, just so they can get a bunch of people to agree that the 360/PS3 is the better system because of a a particular game's shots have AA, bloom or whatever. I mean just know another guy posted this

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27442211&tag=topics%3Btitle

Anything left to say?

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The only one that ever bothered me was when the Godfather was announced...the screens I saw were gorgeous, and when I played the game for myself, all I could say was "WTF is this?"
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#27 ducati101
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It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot. ferret-gamer
Or when companies use PC screens and pretend those are console screens, happens too often. They usually get found out pretty quick now at least.
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#28 St_muscat
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

juan530

actually its not only the lemmings that post bullshots

Exactly, Cows love them too, Killzone 2 anyone?

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#29 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="St_muscat"]

[QUOTE="juan530"][QUOTE="sillaris"]

its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

actually its not only the lemmings that post bullshots

Exactly, Cows love them too, Killzone 2 anyone?

Most KZ2 ps3 guys just give you a link to gameplay actually, we have no issue at all to show off gameplay. Why you think so many use the clips in their sigs? Also Geow series, Alan Wake, Forza and even Halo comes to mind when thinking of the 360 and use of bullshots. The old KZ2 vs Geow threads was full of bullshots of Geow, while ps3 guys gave links to gameplay.
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#30 tutt3r
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crysis bullshots look worse than in game crysis lol

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#31 convicted_94
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KZ2 had a bullvideo, so yeah.. everyone does it.

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#32 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-media-manipulation-article?page=2 Digitalfoundry's own bullshot peice dishes the dirt on ME2, Halo 3 and Uncharted 2

-I think there's a first page to this but i can't get to it? Never mind found it: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-media-manipulation-article

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#33 SaltyMeatballs
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Duh. What's Bullshot with an "i" instead of "o"?
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#34 GreyFoXX4
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Man didn't even know it when I posted earlier but theres a Geow3 bullshot thread going rampid right now lol. Epic and lemmings at it again lol.

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The only one that ever bothered me was when the Godfather was announced...the screens I saw were gorgeous, and when I played the game for myself, all I could say was "WTF is this?" DethSkematik
I felt the same way for haze.

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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

sillaris

Uh from what I have seen fanboys from all sides use them, including the pc.

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#37 GhoX
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The only so-called PC "bullshots" are screenshots rendered at a high resolution such as 2560x1600 or 1080p, then downsized to 720p or similar. I wouldn't call them bullshots though, since PCs can honestly run at those resolutions. Lowering them to console resolution merely provides fairer comparison.
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#38 SecretPolice
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My Bullshots are for real and > all others. :P

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I don't know about you but I hate bullshots. I understand wanting to sell your product but mis-representation is just wrong. Epic and Cliffy Basta*$% really do come to mid. I am tired of reading about Bshots, hearing about Bshots ect. I did some searching tonight and thought I'd post this link about them and get your thoughts. It's old but I think worthwhile. (not concerned about the source...........just the content of the article)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/156868/the-truth-behind-doctored-screenshots/

oldbrettc
Well bullshots are in games.. but what about movies? The trailers look great and the film ends up being s***, like expendables i was expecting Arnold and Bruce Willis to do some acting but they appear for like a minute :@ Or mcdonalds burgers with the perfectly arranged salad on their advertisements.. hell no it don't look like that when you buy it We just gotta put up with all this fakeness as consumers, its part of life. However the idiots that fall for it.. thats their problem not ours :P
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#40 KungfuKitten
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Well, we have to draw the line. Nobody will do that for us. And if this goes on it will eventually affect gamers too. They're not just going to stop for no good reason. At some point reviews and boxart will also imply and show things that aren't part of the actual game.
It's not like their ethics will stop them from doing so, or so. And even if there are rules to stop things, those rules only work for some time until they are circumvented to make more money.

That is reality. At some point we will have to draw the line somehow.

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It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot. ferret-gamer
I've seen people call some in-game Uncharted 2 pics bullshots.

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#42 WhenCicadasCry
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Definition of the word bullshot: A screenshot of a video game that is complete bull****. Put the 2 together, and you get bullshot.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]It is funny when people go and call a game on PC a bullshot. NukePistols
I seen people call some in-game Uncharted 2 pics bullshots.

Bullshot:

Ingame

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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

its the lemmings who actually use the shots thinking that they are "in game"

Vaasman

Right because cows and sheep would never use bullshots of Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GT5, Red Steel, OR Conduit. Oh wait...

I edited your post because I don't remember Bullshots of Mario Galaxy. But I remember tons of bull shots of Red Steel people still post those bullshots.

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#47 NukePistols
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In-game

All taken by myself.

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#48 WhenCicadasCry
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In-game

All taken by myself.

NukePistols

Offscreen and downsized =/= direct feed. :roll:

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#49 ironcreed
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It's all a matter of accepting that the usage of touched up screens is the norm and then setting realistic expectations for yourself. The level of pixel counting that goes on these days is ridiculous. I see even the most beautiful of games getting picked apart by the fanboys. Which only serves to prove that the real problem here is unrealistic expectations.

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#50 jun_aka_pekto
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My nephew actually thought this was a photo at first glance. It didn't look like it to me. But, it's ingame. Right click to see full size.