Bungie should fire their graphics team.

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

LiquidShnake

Surely ODST will get some improvement...

And whilst better graphics are not needed Id like it.

Plus to the person who posted before me they could easily update the graphics and add co-op. Unchrted 2 will have co-op and look at those graphics.

halo 3 had great textures for its time of release, and odst looks to be an upgrade version of that.

Ican't help but havethe feeling that if it were up to Bungie ODST would be an add-on and not full price. Unfortunately MS also had/has a say in it.

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the textureand resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

LiquidShnake

I stopped reading here.

Ican't help but havethe feeling that if it were up to Bungie ODST would be an add-on and not full price. Unfortunately MS also had/has a say in it.

NielsNL

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Ican't help but havethe feeling that if it were up to Bungie ODST would be an add-on and not full price. Unfortunately MS also had/has a say in it.

-Snooze-

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Ican't help but havethe feeling that if it were up to Bungie ODST would be an add-on and not full price. Unfortunately MS also had/has a say in it.

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence to apply the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Bungie are not first party anymore. MS don't have that controll over them. Money does, and if money is what swayed them, then that's not MS fault.-Snooze-

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence to apply the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

You know just as well as I do that's unrealistic. If enough money is offered or pressure applied in any way by a huge company to a much smaller company the latter will have to sway at some point.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence to apply the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

NielsNL

You know just as well as I do that's unrealistic. If enough money is offered or pressure applied in any way by a huge company to a much smaller company the latter will have to sway at some point.

Of course, but i prefer to blame the tempted, not the tempter.

I blame Eve for dragging us down to this pit of garbage, not the nice little snake,

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Is it MS' fault Bungie are weak? If Bungie are the almighty, Community serving devs people think they are, then they would have stuck to there morals, and said no.-Snooze-

You know just as well as I do that's unrealistic. If enough money is offered or pressure applied in any way by a huge company to a much smaller company the latter will have to sway at some point.

Of course, but i prefer to blame the tempted, not the tempter.

I blame Eve for dragging us down to this pit of garbage, not the nice little snake,

You do know what the snake's a metaphor for though right?

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

You know just as well as I do that's unrealistic. If enough money is offered or pressure applied in any way by a huge company to a much smaller company the latter will have to sway at some point.

Of course, but i prefer to blame the tempted, not the tempter.

I blame Eve for dragging us down to this pit of garbage, not the nice little snake,

You do know what the snake's a metaphor for though right?

Of course, but it's till Eve's fault. Silly woman.-Snooze-

:lol:

Well, they paid the price over the years (inherited sin, catholicism)

(btw: i'm atheist)

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Of course, but it's till Eve's fault. Silly woman.NielsNL

:lol:

Well, they paid the price over the years (inherited sin, catholicism)

(btw: i'm atheist)

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Of course, but it's till Eve's fault. Silly woman.-Snooze-

:lol:

Well, they paid the price over the years (inherited sin, catholicism)

(btw: i'm atheist)

We're going way off topic here. ;)

OT: I actually think any studio's graphics team is as good as its budget.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

:lol:

Well, they paid the price over the years (inherited sin, catholicism)

(btw: i'm atheist)

We're going way off topic here. ;)

OT: I actually think any studio's graphics team is as good as its budget.

The tools they're given, and the hardware they working on*-Snooze-

Don't dev kits for consoles offer the same set of tools to all people working with it? Or are you also referring to middleware. Cause a company like Bungie for a franchise like Halo should really go all out in spending to create their own great middleware IMO. Guess this will probably be happening for Reach though.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] The tools they're given, and the hardware they working on*NielsNL

Don't dev kits for consoles offer the same set of tools to all people working with it? Or are you also referring to middleware. Cause a company like Bungie for a franchise like Halo should really go all out in spending to create their own great middleware IMO. Guess this will probably be happening for Reach though.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Bungie are not first party anymore. MS don't have that controll over them. Money does, and if money is what swayed them, then that's not MS fault.-Snooze-

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence to apply the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

LiquidShnake

halo 3 had fantastic graphics that didnt look good because of the ARTSTYLE. the textures and lighting in the game were simply amazing.

[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"]

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

sikanderahmed

halo 3 had fantastic graphics that didnt look good because of the ARTSTYLE. the textures and lighting in the game were simply amazing.

I'd say 'fantastic graphics' is stretching it. Good textures and lighting I'll give you though.

KZ2 has better graphics, but there is no split-screen. You have to give something to get something.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Of course, but it's till Eve's fault. Silly woman.-Snooze-

:lol:

Well, they paid the price over the years (inherited sin, catholicism)

(btw: i'm atheist)

Then you'll LOVE scientology!

[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"]

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

jwsoul

The game looks perfectly fine, its not Crysis but who cares. The game is fun thats all that matters really. Its enough of an improvement of halo 2 for me not to complain.

Meh, Halo3 looks pretty good to me, especially the online portion. Sure its not Killzone2 or Crysis level graphics, but its still a game that isnt ugly by any means.

Stop hating!

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

what? Having 3 friends over playing halo 3 will ALWAYS be more fun than playing against 256 plyers in MAG or 60 on R2 or 16 in COD4... Its so much more fun.NinjaMunkey01

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Bungie are not first party anymore. MS don't have that controll over them. Money does, and if money is what swayed them, then that's not MS fault.-Snooze-

It's not? I'd say that MS is buying the influence to apply the influence I'm talking about and that's just as bad, only Bungie makes somemoney of it that way which is good for them.

Shouldn't of insulted the textures. Just showed your true colours and the real reason you made this thread. Cause the textures where great. Now i know your just trolling.

Anyway, halo 3s graphics are great. Not because you go "ZOMGS teh shinyz!1111" but because all the maps are lush, beautiful and VERY varied. Unlike maps from call of duty 4, gears of war..... *cough*. Look at Assembly, Avalanche, Ghost Town, Blackout, Valhalla, Isolation, Narrows. Compare them visually to maps in any other MP shooter. They're just in a different artistic leaguepi3m4ster

I didnt see anything wrong with Halo 3's graphics

nah bungie created a great FPS series, its no big deal if they are not visually the best.. I still find Halo3 great visually.. a bit plain artistically but it does have some great textures / lighting..

I didnt see anything wrong with Halo 3's graphics

MasterArbitur

Exactly. The graphics weren't the best, but they didn't get in the way of the game, and still provided some nice sights at times. Besides in Halo framerate>amazing graphics any day.

halo 1 and 2 was the console graphics kings last gen give them same time to work on the 360 and you will see that HALO REACH will be amzing and also HALO 3 looks great the textures are one of the best and the HDR is amzing, only the models and AA are bad

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

Let's care about the graphics. The game didn't play incredibly well compared to other console shooters because of those bad graphics!

No wait, 9.5 on Gamespot.

Why do people still care about graphics so much?

Visuals are great - the game-play, Outstanding. :P

Yeah...we must have been playing different games because Halo 3's textures were mostly great, especially for its time of release.

[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"]

One of the main issues I had with Halo 3 was its graphics, yes they were colourful but the texture and resolution was terrible. I'm not saying it was a bad game just it could have been much better if it didn't have below budget title graphics. The new Spyro game even has better graphics. Anyway ODST is going to look exactly the same 2 years later, that's a terrible move the game looked bad in 2007 and imagine how bad it will look when there's games like gears and killzone on the market. Either their graphics team sucks or bungie are just too lazy. Reach being console graphics king:roll:

jwsoul

Let's care about the graphics. The game didn't play incredibly well compared to other console shooters because of those bad graphics!

No wait, 9.5 on Gamespot.

Why do people still care about graphics so much?

treedoor

Ican't help but havethe feeling that if it were up to Bungie ODST would be an add-on and not full price. Unfortunately MS also had/has a say in it.

I don't want better graphics if I have to give up 4 player split-screen. I don't mind Halo 3's graphics although they're crap at least they're colorful crap.