Bungie Weekly Update 01.22.10 - Reach not Alpha

Just because the community loves graphics threads SO MUCH!!! here is, straight from the horses mouth, a Halo: Reach graphics thread.

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Right. Let's talk a little Halo: Reach.

Builds are coming in at a blistering pace as the team continues to drive hard and fast towards the ever looming Alpha branch. The process is so break neck at times that it's hard for us poor dudes over in the community pod to keep track and chronicle the goings on for you in any meaningful way. For example, the build that brought you the latest batch of media assets was already weeks old when we scrubbed it for screenshots. Pre-Thanksgiving, in fact. The nature of the development process is such that stability can often become a concern when the various disciplines are routinely plugging in their new pieces of technical and artistical hotness, so when it came time to show it off to our media friends, we decided to dust off one of the older, notably stable builds. Game tends to show better when it's in rock solid working order.

Awesome Sauce!

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I shall continue to update this opening post, so make sure you keep checking back. Ya hear!

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

Bungie just put up this weeks Weekly Update today, so I figured "why the hell not?".

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

We won't know till we see the Beta.

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.GulliversTravel

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.AdjacentLives

We won't know till we see the Beta.

Bungie is no different from Turn 10. They seem to always under deliver in the graphics department.jakarai

Whats the most important they said: "The good news is that there's much more on the way and as soon as we can, say early next week, we'll play host to some of the freshly dropped assets in high resolution glory right here on Bungie.net."

Bungie is no different from Turn 10. They seem to always under deliver in the graphics department.jakarai

So what? Since when has anyone played a Halo game for its graphics?

Like Skrat said, the game looks good. It's definitely not graphics king, but it's far from ugly.

Did anyone but me see this??

This is what makes Halo 3 Special.

[QUOTE="jakarai"]Bungie is no different from Turn 10. They seem to always under deliver in the graphics department.mythrol

Yes, I heard the Bungie Reach comment multiple times here in SW.

I'm struggling on what I can say that I haven't said in those other threads...Oh I got it! :)

There has been a bunch of threads just on that comment uttered from Bungie....Well, their game is due this year so what we see isn't far off.

Also, you guys know Bungie faked that Reach Trailer, right? They aren't as honest as some claim, not that I mind (They have a game to sell, I'm not naive to that! :P ), but I can't believe the short term memory of some SW posters here. Even though Bungie increased the Frame Rate of Halo Reach and AntiAliased the Hell out of the Halo Reach trailer, it didn't look that uber with those enhancements, so don't go hype this as some sort of Graphics wonder, since that won't end well.

It's all good, REACH will be awesome, but let's not get carried away.

Remember, I didn't make the news, you guys forgot it.:P

Yes, I heard the Bungie Reach comment multiple times here in SW.

There has been a bunch of threads just on that comment uttered from Bungie....Well, their game is due this year...

Also, you guys know Bungie faked that Reach Trailer, right? They aren't as honest as some claim, not that I mind, but I can't believe the short term memory of some SW posters here. Even though they increased the Frame Rate and AntiAliased the Hell out of the Halo Reach trailer, it didn't look that uber with those enhancements, so don't go hype this as some sort of Graphics wonder, since that won't end well.

It's all good, REACH will be awesome, but let's not get carried away.

Remember, I didn't make the news, you guys forgot it.:P

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yes, I heard the Bungie Reach comment multiple times here in SW.

I'm struggling on what I can say that I haven't said in those other threads...Oh I got it! :)

There has been a bunch of threads just on that comment uttered from Bungie....Well, their game is due this year so what we see isn't far off.

Also, you guys know Bungie faked that Reach Trailer, right? They aren't as honest as some claim, not that I mind (They have a game to sell, I'm not naive to that! :P ), but I can't believe the short term memory of some SW posters here. Even though Bungie increased the Frame Rate of Halo Reach and AntiAliased the Hell out of the Halo Reach trailer, it didn't look that uber with those enhancements, so don't go hype this as some sort of Graphics wonder, since that won't end well.

It's all good, REACH will be awesome, but let's not get carried away.

Remember, I didn't make the news, you guys forgot it.:P

Doctor-McNinja

:lol: They weren't immediate in posting anything afterwards when we look at the timeline.

BUNGIE were being accused, and Bungie came forward in a timely matter after the accusations.

Ask yourself why they bothered faking a trailer, and afterwards admit the game will not look that good but close to it? Why would they do that? Why are you on my case? I didn't make the news, I didn't tell Bungie to fake the trailer, I didn't do anything of the sort. :P

Please ask them, and get back to us because I honestly can't tell you the answer. I don't know other than sales. :)

"During the Spike VGAs a new Halo Reach trailer was shown showing probably the best looking Halo graphics yet. Many sites, including even Gametrailers who assisted in hosting the Spike VGAs doubted the validity of the graphics in the Halo Reach trailer. However, Bungie issued an official response recently explaining the trailer."

As far as dishonestly goes, there are better examples, sure. But they aren't "The Most HONEST Developers out there" as some would claim. That's my point, I would think that spot for MOST HONEST would belong to those that don't pull ANY shenanigans. Again, I don't really care, it's going to be a good game, SW isn't an emotional place for me. I see news and I remember it.

Here is your :roll: emoticon back.:P

Killzone 2 got nothing on the scale and size of halo reach,40 A,I at once,OPEN WORLD,weather system..and lmao at those saying that bungie isn't honest,and yet the same ones hype the fake pre rendered trailers of GT5 when is not even gameplay,its only a crappy video using game assets :lol:Tessellation

Yes, shame on those people too.

They should realize dishonestly when they see it.But let us also laugh at those that only see honesty one way. :lol:

I'm glad I didn't hype KZ2, lol...that game surprised me by actually being a good game...just like Reach will be a good game. I can't wait to beat it on Legendary the same way I've beat ALL THE HALO's. ;)

I also don't even really talk about GT5 other than it should be fun.:lol:

...Because we haven't heard "pre-alpha" from a developer before... Dudes, you shouldn't expect the game to look much better than it does now, no matter what posters they shove up on the hype train.

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]They said this a few days ago. Even then, chances are its not going to look much better.AdjacentLives

We won't know till we see the Beta.

Yes, I heard the Bungie Reach comment multiple times here in SW.

I'm struggling on what I can say that I haven't said in those other threads...Oh I got it!

There has been a bunch of threads just on that comment uttered from Bungie....Well, their game is due this year so what we see isn't far off.

Also, you guys know Bungie faked that Reach Trailer, right? They aren't as honest as some claim, not that I mind (They have a game to sell, I'm not naive to that! ), but I can't believe the short term memory of some SW posters here. Even though Bungie increased the Frame Rate of Halo Reach and AntiAliased the Hell out of the Halo Reach trailer, it didn't look that uber with those enhancements, so don't go hype this as some sort of Graphics wonder, since that won't end well.

It's all good, REACH will be awesome, but let's not get carried away.

Remember, I didn't make the news, you guys forgot i

SolidTy

Every developer adds tons of AA to the pre-released media of their games, and I'd hope that most would have caught on to it by now, but in the end the graphics usually aren't that far off.

Talking about Reach's graphics, Bungie said:

This trailer absolutely represents our visual bar for the final game and is near identical to what you'll see next Fall. The single biggest difference between this trailer and the final game will be the extra generous amount of anti-aliasing (the smoothing of "jaggies" or edges of pixels) present in what you're watching right now but rest assured that Reach will be significantly improved in this department compared to Halo 3. (The extreme "AA" in the trailer was due to the "frame dump" mentioned above.) Bungie

Sounds good.

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yes, I heard the Bungie Reach comment multiple times here in SW.

I'm struggling on what I can say that I haven't said in those other threads...Oh I got it! :)

There has been a bunch of threads just on that comment uttered from Bungie....Well, their game is due this year so what we see isn't far off.

Also, you guys know Bungie faked that Reach Trailer, right? They aren't as honest as some claim, not that I mind (They have a game to sell, I'm not naive to that! :P ), but I can't believe the short term memory of some SW posters here. Even though Bungie increased the Frame Rate of Halo Reach and AntiAliased the Hell out of the Halo Reach trailer, it didn't look that uber with those enhancements, so don't go hype this as some sort of Graphics wonder, since that won't end well.

It's all good, REACH will be awesome, but let's not get carried away.

Remember, I didn't make the news, you guys forgot it.:P

SolidTy

:lol: They weren't immediate in posting anything afterwards when we look at the timeline.

BUNGIE were being accused, and Bungie came forward in a timely matter after the accusations.

Ask yourself why they bothered faking a trailer,

I thought those EB Games screens seemed to lack shaders compared to the VGA awards reveal.

I want Reach to look like this:

WIN!

I want reach to look as good/better than BFBC2, I will be very satisfied with that.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] How did they 'fake' the trailer when they posted an update immediately afterwards explaining exactly how it was made? How dishonest of them! :roll:

Doctor-McNinja

:lol: They weren't immediate in posting anything afterwards when we look at the timeline.

BUNGIE were being accused, and Bungie came forward in a timely matter after the accusations.

Ask yourself why they bothered faking a trailer,

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

:lol: They weren't immediate in posting anything afterwards when we look at the timeline.

BUNGIE were being accused, and Bungie came forward in a timely matter after the accusations.

Ask yourself why they bothered faking a trailer,

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] I think you need to reconsider what 'faking' means, to be honest.

Doctor-McNinja

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]If it isn't 100% straight from an actual 360 or XDK, then it's not realtime-rendered...and therefore fake.

HuusAsking

...Because we haven't heard "pre-alpha" from a developer before... Dudes, you shouldn't expect the game to look much better than it does now, no matter what posters they shove up on the hype train.

Leejjohno

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] That simply isn't true.

GulliversTravel

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] How did they 'fake' the trailer when they posted an update immediately afterwards explaining exactly how it was made? How dishonest of them! :roll:

Doctor-McNinja

:lol: They weren't immediate in posting anything afterwards when we look at the timeline.

BUNGIE were being accused, and Bungie came forward in a timely matter after the accusations.

Ask yourself why they bothered faking a trailer,

There was enormous buzz going around by people who have seen the trailer. All saying it was in game. Where did they get that sort of confirmation from? Why didn't bungie stop these people from saying such things if it weren't true.

Zero_epyon

Bungie came out and said that the trailer would be in-engine several weeks before the actual showing, so their shouldn't be any reason for people to believe it was in-game.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] There was enormous buzz going around by people who have seen the trailer. All saying it was in game. Where did they get that sort of confirmation from? Why didn't bungie stop these people from saying such things if it weren't true.

opex07

Bungie came out and said that the trailer would be in-engine several weeks before the actual showing, so their shouldn't be any reason for people to believe it was in-game.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] There was enormous buzz going around by people who have seen the trailer. All saying it was in game. Where did they get that sort of confirmation from? Why didn't bungie stop these people from saying such things if it weren't true.

Zero_epyon

Bungie came out and said that the trailer would be in-engine several weeks before the actual showing, so their shouldn't be any reason for people to believe it was in-game.

"Though no actual gameplay was shown, the trailer did feature in-engine graphics and the first look at what is supposedly Planet Reach."

Still looking for the article by Bungie.

And another link stating the trailer is in-engine. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/halo-reach-spike-tv/59813?type=flv

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="opex07"]

Bungie came out and said that the trailer would be in-engine several weeks before the actual showing, so their shouldn't be any reason for people to believe it was in-game.

Avian005

"Though no actual gameplay was shown, the trailer did feature in-engine graphics and the first look at what is supposedly Planet Reach."

Still looking for the article by Bungie.

Link?Zero_epyon

link.(cant link to the actual tweet due to that requiring you to log in)

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

Link?opex07

link.(cant link to the actual tweet due to that requiring you to log in)

I thought those EB Games screens seemed to lack shaders compared to the VGA awards reveal.

gamecubepad

I remember when Guerilla was saying KZ2 was in pre-alpha after the E3 2007 trailer. If you do not feel comfortable showing the game, then do not show it.

Did anyone but me see this??

This is what makes Halo 3 Special.

siddhu33

Holy crud. Wish I could make that in Forge. Forge is so awesome. Im surprised not many shooters have copied it yet