But These Wii Casuals ARE ruining gaming for US!

This will end all of these arguments.

I own a Wii and there is a huge shortage of epic games. What is epic you ask? Well usually is a game that has a deep and immersive story. Some of them include 6-7 hour type games or 50 hour games.

These are not simple games that someone just made with only a couple bucks and a ducktaped dev kit. Cooking Mama is bad, really bad. That is the opposite of epic.

Epic is a MAIN series of a game, it is mostly always exclusive.

Epic games include Halo, God of War, Legend of Zelda, Gears of War, All Main Final Fantasies.

What people mean by EPIC games is games that developers ACTUALLY PUT EFFORT INTO. The only real epic game on the Wii is the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. All that we have left is Metroid 3 and Mario Galaxy. Everything else is lax and moot. Epic was never Nintendo system's strong point.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF NINTENDO MAKING EXCUSES OF NOT SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THEIR GAMES AND INSTEAD CASHING IN ON SIMPLE GAMES THAT TOOK THE EQUIVALENT OF 1 HOUR TO MAKE.

I did not buy a wii to play PSP ports, or Cooking Dogs with Playing Waggle. I bought it for the immersive gameplay that IS possible. But all I see is developers cashing in and not even trying to make an epic or game of effort. Where's that big budget third party game?

That's why casuals are ruining the market, because there's less games that are actually GOOD according to our standards. And us as gamers have very low standards. Our standards are even lower thanks to the Wii's 1 hour Wiiplay $50 games.

So Nintendo, STFU about this casual business and get exclusive deals on some EPIC GAMES, games that will last me more than 10 hours, or a small playthrough.

compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themhamstergeddon

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF NINTENDO MAKING EXCUSES OF NOT SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THEIR GAMES AND INSTEAD CASHING IN ON SIMPLE GAMES THAT TOOK THE EQUIVALENT OF 1 HOUR TO MAKE.thedarkomen

It takes me at least 15 hours of work to make a decent map, it takes far longer than1 hour to make a game.

This will end all of these arguments.

I own a Wii and there is a huge shortage of epic games. What is epic you ask? Well usually is a game that has a deep and immersive story. Some of them include 6-7 hour type games or 50 hour games.

These are not simple games that someone just made with only a couple bucks and a ducktaped dev kit. Cooking Mama is bad, really bad. That is the opposite of epic.

Epic is a MAIN series of a game, it is mostly always exclusive.

Epic games include Halo, God of War, Legend of Zelda, Gears of War, All Main Final Fantasies.

What people mean by EPIC games is games that developers ACTUALLY PUT EFFORT INTO. The only real epic game on the Wii is the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. All that we have left is Metroid 3 and Mario Galaxy. Everything else is lax and moot. Epic was never Nintendo system's strong point.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF NINTENDO MAKING EXCUSES OF NOT SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THEIR GAMES AND INSTEAD CASHING IN ON SIMPLE GAMES THAT TOOK THE EQUIVALENT OF 1 HOUR TO MAKE.

I did not buy a wii to play PSP ports, or Cooking Dogs with Playing Waggle. I bought it for the immersive gameplay that IS possible. But all I see is developers cashing in and not even trying to make an epic or game of effort. Where's that big budget third party game?

That's why casuals are ruining the market, because there's less games that are actually GOOD according to our standards. And us as gamers have very low standards. Our standards are even lower thanks to the Wii's 1 hour Wiiplay $50 games.

So Nintendo, STFU about this casual business and get exclusive deals on some EPIC GAMES, games that will last me more than 10 hours, or a small playthrough.

I WILL NOT SPEND $50 ON A GAME THAT LASTS ONE HOUR AND HAS TO DO WITH A MAMA AND A FRYING PAN AND WAGGLING. You can do better than this Nintendo.thedarkomen

wii play is 50 bucks because it comes w/40 dollar controller:shock:

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"] I AM SICK AND TIRED OF NINTENDO MAKING EXCUSES OF NOT SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THEIR GAMES AND INSTEAD CASHING IN ON SIMPLE GAMES THAT TOOK THE EQUIVALENT OF 1 HOUR TO MAKE.kittykatz5k

It takes me at least 15 hours of work to make a decent map, it takes far longer than1 hour to make a game.

It was an exageration by the way. And a very close one.

But I doubt that Dog Island took a lot of effort compared to Gears or the equivalent.

Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. FlashMan2006

so 10$ is that much of a difference?

Cooking Mama $50

Halo 3 $60

Um...

If you want story then go pick up a book, games are for gameplay, son, and THAT is what makes a game epic.MaTT2011

So Pac-Man is epic to you guys?.... >_>;

I agree, thats whats keeping me from buying a Wii right now. I don't even mind some of the more casual oriented games, but I do want some more big titles.pundog

Ah you'll enjoy this fall then.

[QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. thedarkomen

so 10$ is that much of a difference?

Cooking Mama $50

Halo 3 $60

Um...

If you want story then go pick up a book, games are for gameplay, son, and THAT is what makes a game epic.MaTT2011

So Pac-Man is epic to you guys?.... >_>;

It's Epic enough to have it's own Championships...

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. GundamGuy0

so 10$ is that much of a difference?

Cooking Mama $50

Halo 3 $60

Um...

If you want story then go pick up a book, games are for gameplay, son, and THAT is what makes a game epic.MaTT2011

So Pac-Man is epic to you guys?.... >_>;

It's Epic enough to have it's own Championships...

So is Pong Epic Then?

In all seriousness... you just called Pac-Man an epic game....

I'm ashamed to be associated with you as a gamer.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Project Hammer-Original exclusive

Disaster-Original exclusive

NiGHTS-exclusive

Final Fantasy CB-Dont need to say anything u already did

No More Heroes-Original Exclusive, Made by Suda 51 full attention to this project

then u have the obvious titles that are more than likely to score high
SSBB, SMG, MPC, BWii

As long as Microsoft and Sony keep pumping out the games with good graphics, I think we're fine.

If they start converting to Cooking Mama games... then we're screwed.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. thedarkomen

so 10$ is that much of a difference?

Cooking Mama $50

Halo 3 $60

Um...

If you want story then go pick up a book, games are for gameplay, son, and THAT is what makes a game epic.MaTT2011

So Pac-Man is epic to you guys?.... >_>;

It's Epic enough to have it's own Championships...

So is Pong Epic Then?

In all seriousness... you just called Pac-Man an epic game....

I'm ashamed to be associated with you as a gamer.

Ah see that's cause your not a gamer... I mean to be a gamer you have to play games... you know games... the thing that's diffrent from movies because it has gameplay...

Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. FlashMan2006

Some games that aren't "deep and immersive" are really enjoyable for me though.

I love Brain Training, and am going to pick up the sequel. And I'm not that casual. I mean, my most anticipated games are GTAIV, MGSIV, GT5, FFXIII, Haze, FFT2, Pokemon Diamond, SMG, SSBB, Halo 3, Banjo 3...so yeah, not that casual.

There's nothing wrong in my view with non gamer titles once in a while. You guys gotta give them a chance, they're more enjoyable than you'd think they are.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themhamstergeddon

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

*sigh* I'll post the list for the 15th time but I ain't doing all of it.
-Smash bros brawl
-Super mario galaxy
-Metroid prime
-Battalion wars 2
-NiGHTS
-No more heroes
-Project HAMMER
-Disaster: DoC
-Forever blue

There, that's 9. I don't care if you never heard of some of these games, that's not my problem. I never even knew what bioshock was til recently.

[QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. xboxdevil

Well see gamers would play the game (if it's the only version avaible) regardless of what console it is on, or how it looks. Good games are good games, and gamers play good games. Even if they aren't current gen enough for you.

20 mil on killzone?

hey... look at how much red steel cost ...

10mil euros on a launch game

i guess that really determined the quality there

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themGundamGuy0

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

The Wii is different than any of the other systems..

Why can't people get this....

I used my DS/360 example, because its true. All I see right now is developers cashing in like its some kind of wacky money spree.

This isn't like the DS. The DS has epic games of its own. FF3, Renevent Wings, etc. Yes. a portable with epic games.... So where's the Wiis?....

Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

20 mil on killzone?

hey... look at how much red steel cost ...

10mil euros on a launch game

i guess that really determined the quality there

voxware00

Killzone has had years. Red Steel had months. Development Time > Money Put In, usually.

Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

thedarkomen

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

The Wii is different than any of the other systems..

Why can't people get this....

I used my DS/360 example, because its true. All I see right now is developers cashing in like its some kind of wacky money spree.

This isn't like the DS. The DS has epic games of its own. FF3, Renevent Wings, etc. Yes. a portable with epic games.... So where's the Wiis?....

Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

I said more games, not more epic long games... that will be about the same accross all the platforms.

If you've not noticed, there have been more Wii games released then year then PS3 or Xbox 360... not nessicarly good games... but apparently the 3rd party is there...

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

foxhound_fox

I believe that's a butchered quote. You know, the kind where fnaboys take what someone says and leaves out part of it to make it sound bad. Like when miyomoto said wii was the same basic architechture as gamecube, and fanboys posted it as "Wii is a gamecube"

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

thedarkomen

Super Paper Mario is a Epic game.

Twilight Princess is an epic game. Its the ONLY epic game on the Wii right now... and its a GC port in a sense.. :-/
thedarkomen

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

GundamGuy0

Super Paper Mario is a Epic game.

It really is. I never played zelda but super paper mario is pretty huge.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

kittykatz5k

Super Paper Mario is a Epic game.

It really is. I never played zelda but super paper mario is pretty huge.

Just beat it, now to do all the cards, and recipies, and get the extra pixls... gah so much to do.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

thedarkomen

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

hamstergeddon

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

and in the mean time the Wii will have other non-epic games that are worth playing. I mean people in System wars really need to take the blinders off and see that there are some great games that aren't epic or massive.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themGundamGuy0

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

The Wii is different than any of the other systems..

Why can't people get this....

I used my DS/360 example, because its true. All I see right now is developers cashing in like its some kind of wacky money spree.

This isn't like the DS. The DS has epic games of its own. FF3, Renevent Wings, etc. Yes. a portable with epic games.... So where's the Wiis?....

Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

I said more games, not more epic long games... that will be about the same accross all the platforms.

If you've not noticed, there have been more Wii games released then year then PS3 or Xbox 360... not nessicarly good games... but apparently the 3rd party is there...

Would you like me to list these games you so happen to love?

Wii Play

Big Brain Academy

Mario Party

Super Monkey Ball

Wario Ware

Surf's up

Mortal Kombat Armageddon

Pokemon Revolution

Shrek

Pirates 3

Cooking Mama

Sonic

Spiderman 3

Heatseeker

Bionicle

Legend of the Dragon

Resident Evil 4 Wiimake

Paper Mario

.... Wow... what a list...

Compare that to 360... WAY different audience apparently.

3rd Party Making.... Surfs up.... yea... so much for third party...

And so many spin-offs...

The only main series wii game we're getting is Nights... NIGHTS!

Come on.. that's pitaful. I can name more for the PS3 which has supposedly "no" games.

MGS4, FFXIII, HAZE.

Heck even GOW2 for PS2 seems more worth it than Monkey Ball.

Have we as gamers been given less quality for different gameplay?

I'm playing trauma center right now, it's epic levels are on a 10 but the hugeness levels on a 7. I sugggest picking it up if you don't have it.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

GundamGuy0

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

and in the mean time the Wii will have other non-epic games that are worth playing. I mean people in System wars really need to take the blinders off and see that there are some great games that aren't epic or massive.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]compared to ALL the epic games the PS3 has...... you know, both of themthedarkomen

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

FFXIII

Halo 3

Gears of War

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patroits

Killzone 2 (20 million dollars being put into it)

And tons and tons of other big budget epic games.

I love my Wii, its a great system, but these games aren't even targeting me.... a GAMER!

Link? Proof?

So ALL of these developers will just suddenly drop all their 360 and PS3 projects and just go to the Wii.

Dude I love the Wii more than any other system, but that was a really stupid statement. Its like saying....

"HEY GUYS! The DS is selling well, all these developers will jump ship from the 360! Cause the touch-screen pwns all."

Games for the Wii are farrrr different than games on the other systems.

This Gen is turning out like the cheap-budget horrible games of the NES days.... Oh god.... Dick Tracy *shudder*

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

The Wii is different than any of the other systems..

Why can't people get this....

I used my DS/360 example, because its true. All I see right now is developers cashing in like its some kind of wacky money spree.

This isn't like the DS. The DS has epic games of its own. FF3, Renevent Wings, etc. Yes. a portable with epic games.... So where's the Wiis?....

Wasn't it Nintendo that stated that gamers don't want long epic games?

or did I just imagine that...

I said more games, not more epic long games... that will be about the same accross all the platforms.

If you've not noticed, there have been more Wii games released then year then PS3 or Xbox 360... not nessicarly good games... but apparently the 3rd party is there...

Would you like me to list these games you so happen to love?

Wii Play

Big Brain Academy

Mario Party

Super Monkey Ball

Wario Ware

Surf's up

Mortal Kombat Armageddon

Pokemon Revolution

Shrek

Pirates 3

Cooking Mama

Sonic

Spiderman 3

Heatseeker

Bionicle

Legend of the Dragon

Resident Evil 4 Wiimake

Paper Mario

.... Wow... what a list...

Compare that to 360... WAY different audience apparently.

3rd Party Making.... Surfs up.... yea... so much for third party...

And so many spin-offs...

The only main series wii game we're getting is Nights... NIGHTS!

Come on.. that's pitaful. I can name more for the PS3 which has supposedly "no" games.

MGS4, FFXIII, HAZE.

Heck even GOW2 for PS2 seems more worth it than Monkey Ball.

Have we as gamers been given less quality for different gameplay?

You totaly missed Zelda and Wii sports.

BTW the VC on the Wii has more epic games from yesteryear then the Xbox has epic games now...

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Your right, they aren't going to jump ship just shift there resorces so you'll see fewer Xbox 360 and PS3 games and more Wii games. Suprise Suprise there.

thedarkomen

Do you want me to find the article where Miyamoto is pissed off because developers are giving the Wii their sub-par developers and not the head ones?

Other than Kojima, what developer of deep immersive games have you heard coming to the wii from a third party?

-----... yup.

and in the mean time the Wii will have other non-epic games that are worth playing. I mean people in System wars really need to take the blinders off and see that there are some great games that aren't epic or massive.

Then do what I do and exercise purchasing descresion.

Seriously guys, you really want Cooking Mama over another great Legend of Zelda?....

:-/ I mean heck, I wanna know if Midna will be back again in the next one...

Sigh... No More Heroes might be the only one worth checking out soon.

[QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]Nintendo did not publish Cooking Mama did they? And why aren't you complaining about the $60 price tags on the 360 and PS3 games? Only hardcore gamers are willing to spend so much on a freaken game. If you want to keep the industry alive you must offer consumer priced games. Even at $50 I consider that too much, but it's better than $60 and Nintendo is doing the right thing by offering a more affordable option to the consumer. GundamGuy0

Well see gamers would play the game (if it's the only version avaible) regardless of what console it is on, or how it looks. Good games are good games, and gamers play good games. Even if they aren't current gen enough for you.

Seriously guys, you really want Cooking Mama over another great Legend of Zelda?....

:-/ I mean heck, I wanna know if Midna will be back again in the next one...

Sigh... No More Heroes might be the only one worth checking out soon.

thedarkomen

If you don't like it don't buy it. Yay, for the power of the purse.

MP3, SSBB, and SMG are going to be great too.

Would you like me to list these games you so happen to love?

Super Monkey Ball
Wario Ware
Pokemon Revolution
Sonic
Resident Evil 4 Wiimake
Paper Mario

.... Wow... what a list...

Compare that to 360... WAY different audience apparently.
3rd Party Making.... Surfs up.... yea... so much for third party...

And so many spin-offs...
The only main series wii game we're getting is Nights... NIGHTS!
Come on.. that's pitaful. I can name more for the PS3 which has supposedly "no" games.
MGS4, FFXIII, HAZE.

Heck even GOW2 for PS2 seems more worth it than Monkey Ball.

Have we as gamers been given less quality for different gameplay?

thedarkomen