BWii VS. Halo 3 - What is Nintendo Smokin?

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#1 bryehngeocef
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No, this isn`t a screenshot thread. I think we all know and understand that the 360 game will look better than the Wii one,

What I am wondering is who is the fool at NoA that decided to release BWii during the same week as Halo 3, a game that will not only sell millions (and a fair chunk of 360 consoles) in it`s first day or two, but keep said millions glued to Xbox Live for a few months?

Do they think Wii owners without a 360 will turn to it by default saying ``I like shooters too`` ?

I`m not trying to bash anyone really, I`m just failing to see why Nintendo would release one of their First-Party published games at a time when it`s destined to be buried under one of the biggest releases this year...

I never really liked Batallion Wars at all and wasn`t going to buy BWii anyways, but I know it`s a title that many were looking forward too.M

I`m in a position to buy 2-3 games a week if I want to, but I know most people aren`t. Most people have to make choices, and given the choice, I`d bet that most people would choose Halo 3.

Maybe Nintendo`s trying to bank on the fact that they have a pretty good install base with Wii, but I`m not sure BWii has the kind of appeal that will sell big numbers to Wii fans like Super Paper Mario or Cooking Mama.

A week on either side of September 24 would make much much more sense.

 

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#2 OGTiago
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They are smoking the "Who gives a ****" cigarette
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#3 kayn83
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Batallion Wars isn't a sales juggernaut like other Nintendo franchises so it probably won't sell amazingly well regardless
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#4 foxhound_fox
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Perhaps they know what they are doing? They did release the Wii...
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#5 gamer0100
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No, this isn`t a screenshot thread. I think we all know and understand that the 360 game will look better than the Wii one,

What I am wondering is who is the fool at NoA that decided to release BWii during the same week as Halo 3, a game that will not only sell millions (and a fair chunk of 360 consoles) in it`s first day or two, but keep said millions glued to Xbox Live for a few months?

Do they think Wii owners without a 360 will turn to it by default saying ``I like shooters too`` ?

I`m not trying to bash anyone really, I`m just failing to see why Nintendo would release one of their First-Party published games at a time when it`s destined to be buried under one of the biggest releases this year...

I never really liked Batallion Wars at all and wasn`t going to buy BWii anyways, but I know it`s a title that many were looking forward too.M

I`m in a position to buy 2-3 games a week if I want to, but I know most people aren`t. Most people have to make choices, and given the choice, I`d bet that most people would choose Halo 3.

Maybe Nintendo`s trying to bank on the fact that they have a pretty good install base with Wii, but I`m not sure BWii has the kind of appeal that will sell big numbers to Wii fans like Super Paper Mario or Cooking Mama.

A week on either side of September 24 would make much much more sense.

 

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It really doesnt matter. These games are for different systems. Im sure both games will sell well through holiday season. Most people who will buy halo 3 will have it reserved anyway. I dont see how releasing a day earlier will hurt it.
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#6 Dark_Link142
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Bwii is going to be awesome. It's interesting that Nintendo would release it the same week as Halo 3. Lol it might be to attempt to challenge Halo's online with BWii online :lol:. But even so from what I've heard, BWii's online is looking to be pretty cool.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/727/727452p1.html

It shows the online modes that it'll have. A short excerpt:

Three Online Multiplayer Modes

  • Assault: Instant Combat
  • Skirmish: Tactical depth
  • Co-op: Work with friends

Nintendo probably wants to introduce a new online shooter/RTS while everyone's in the mood.

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#7 TNT_Slug
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 Halo 3 isn't going to undermine BW2. BW2 is going to undermine Halo 3. Specially after it flops.

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#8 gamer0100
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 Halo 3 isn't going to undermine BW2. BW2 is going to undermine Halo 3. Specially after it flops.

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which flops?
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#9 TNT_Slug
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[QUOTE="TNT_Slug"]

 Halo 3 isn't going to undermine BW2. BW2 is going to undermine Halo 3. Specially after it flops.

gamer0100

which flops?

I could tell you, but we'll have more fun if you guess!
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#10 Homesrfan
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I'm not sure, but I'm definitely picking that game up. This game will probably still sell pretty well.
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#11 gamer0100
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[QUOTE="gamer0100"][QUOTE="TNT_Slug"]

 Halo 3 isn't going to undermine BW2. BW2 is going to undermine Halo 3. Specially after it flops.

TNT_Slug

which flops?

I could tell you, but we'll have more fun if you guess!


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I don't think that Nintendo was really trying to compete with Halo on this one. They are just releasing BWii on their own time schedule, competition be damned. Could they have picked a better date? Sure, but it won't kill the game. I'm more worried on how online will play. Any news from the front on that? I heard rumors of Mii specific friend-codes. (Still annoying, but better if true.) Besides its a First-Person RTS not a shooter.

As for what they are smoking... certainly can't be worse than what the guys over at SONY are huffin'.

Edit'd: 'cause I suck at proofreading.

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Well by the time both games release they'll probably be 1-2 million (or more) wiis out there then 360s... those people gotta play something...not everyone owns/wants a 360 or halo.
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#14 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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Perhaps they know what they are doing? They did release the Wii...foxhound_fox

 

 I think it's more, They don't care what they are doing. They are making so much money and selling so many Wii's im sure they don't really care all that much.

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Well by the time both games release they'll probably be 1-2 million (or more) wiis out there then 360s... those people gotta play something...not everyone owns/wants a 360 or halo.VideoGameGuy

The 10 million that own 360's do... 

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nintendo shouldn't fear Halo3 as you suggest.  Sure, halo3 is a bigger deal in the video game industry.  Releasing BWii will not prevent halo3 from being a success, but it will cut out some territory and will slow the attraction to Halo.  You say that its a stupid release becuase it's nintendo's shooter vs. microsoft's.  Believe it or not, a lot of people would prefer bwii to halo3.  Halo is FPS, with online coop battles.  BWii is a third person tactical shooter, where you move an entire battalion while you control an individual unit of your choice on the battlefield, also with online battles (co-op?).  But yeah, we get it, halo is 'cooler' than bwii. 

If bwii didn't release, then everyone would just buy halo automatically because it's the ONLY choice.  This may have been very delibrate move by nintendo, possibly exploiting the hype for halo3 for its own benefit.  It even got you TC to talk about the game.

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#17 Hater3000
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Bwii looks more like toy wars.Really it looks too..er..well kiddy.
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#18 BioShockOwnz
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It doesn't matter. A lot of people just own a Wii. Battalion Wars will still sell like hotcakes.
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#19 Homesrfan
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Bwii looks more like toy wars.Really it looks too..er..well kiddy.Hater3000

Ugh... it's fine. Yeah, it's kinda cutesy, but it's still shooting and killing. 

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#20 gamer0100
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Well by the time both games release they'll probably be 1-2 million (or more) wiis out there then 360s... those people gotta play something...not everyone owns/wants a 360 or halo.Homesrfan

The 10 million that own 360's do... 


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#21 leegar88
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I don't think this will affect anything wii fans will get their game, 360 fans will get theirs and cows will get their game if they have something coming out at the time.
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I am saveing my money for both. (I am low on cash though so its gonne be hard) I think I will probley get Halo 3 first though. Maybe I will get BW2 for my birthday.
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You dont have to buy the game right when it releases :| And btw buying 2-3 games per week is such a waste of money. Do you buy all the games?
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They also decided to release a film called LUCKY YOU the same weekend as Spiderman 3. :lol:

They are obviously hoping to satisfy wii owners who will feel the hard green bug of envy the week Halo 3 arrives. They will buy this game hoping for some kind of similar experience....dissapointment will soon follow....along with more of that envy.

 

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#25 solidgamer
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what is bwii??
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#26 Bread_or_Decide
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what is bwii??solidgamer

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#27 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Maybe because Bwii isn't suppose to compete with Halo 3,and they just wanted to release it when they wanted to.
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They also decided to release a film called LUCKY YOU the same weekend as Spiderman 3. :lol:

They are obviously hoping to satisfy wii owners who will feel the hard green bug of envy the week Halo 3 arrives. They will buy this game hoping for some kind of similar experience....dissapointment will soon follow....along with more of that envy.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Dissapointment?
So you've played the game to know its going to be dissapointing?
Last time I checked Battalion Wars got a 8.3 and was great, and this one seems to be a big improvement, and it also has online.
So why don't you acutally play the game before you call it a dissapointment.

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#29 bryehngeocef
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You dont have to buy the game right when it releases :| And btw buying 2-3 games per week is such a waste of money. Do you buy all the games?Hir0_N

how is it a waste of money? i play games a good 45-60 hours a week. i`m on disability...it`s what i do.

I tend to buy most major releases yeah, but my wife`s a journalist as well, so we get copies of all sorts of crap.

I was surprised to see such a quick response by people in this thread. Alot of people seem to think that Wii owners only have Wii, but there`s lots and lots of us that have one or both ``next gen`` systems too.

As for buying a game when it releases, well that`s what helps alot franchises stay alive when they aren`t blockbusting titles. Just like the movie industry, a game`s first week or two of sales are crucial these days.

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#30 DSgamer64
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I don't think that Nintendo was really trying to compete with Halo on this one. They are just releasing BWii on their own time schedule, competition be damned. Could they have picked a better date? Sure, but it won't kill the game. I'm more worried on how online will play. Any news from the front on that? I heard rumors of Mii specific friend-codes. (Still annoying, but better if true.) Besides its a First-Person RTS not a shooter.

As for what they are smoking... certainly can't be worse than what the guys over at SONY are huffin'.

Edit'd: 'cause I suck at proofreading.

Koopaknight29

Battalion Wars is 3rd person, not 1st person, and its also a modern shooter/combat game. I loved the original BW game on the GC so I hope BW2 is just as fun and that the online is good. The game is kind of cheesey in character design, however its insanely fun to play and will no doubt be a great game. I also disliked the voice acting which was pretty lame as well, however the great gameplay makes up for that.

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#31 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="solidgamer"]what is bwii??Bread_or_Decide

Lol.

Batallion wars 2.

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#32 cyprus646
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BW2 is a nintendo exclusive so how would it affect halo 3's saleS:?
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#33 bryehngeocef
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BW2 is a nintendo exclusive so how would it affect halo 3's saleS:? cyprus646

it won`t in the least. but millions of people buying and playing Halo 3 may affect BWii in a negitive way.

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#34 2FacedJanus
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BWii... i thought it would be a game about Bees or something :P
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#35 Acenso
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Nintendo needs to release something...Why not a so-so series? Why waste Mario or SSBB trying to go up against Halo. Its definitly taking a gamble. Look at the masscre of MGS3. Decided it was in the same league as GTA...Halo...WoW...Half Life. Hmm...LOL. Well it took a 20dollar price drop and a substance version to make up alot of those sales.  And even then it ended up about 40-50% less then MGS2/MGS

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[QUOTE="cyprus646"]BW2 is a nintendo exclusive so how would it affect halo 3's saleS:? bryehngeocef

it won`t in the least. but millions of people buying and playing Halo 3 may affect BWii in a negitive way.

So your saying buyinG a xbox 360 exclusive game is going to affect a wii exclusives game sales? Yea that makes alot of sence :roll:
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#37 F-Minus
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Bwii looks more like toy wars.Really it looks too..er..well kiddy.Hater3000

 

After playing Battlefield, Call of Duty, Enemy Teritorry, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell, Brothers in Arms, Operation Flashpoint, Arma, Medal of Honor, Counter-Strike, and name every other possible shooter, It's actually pretty nice to see some form of shooter which doesn't strive to be realistic looking but more like a cartoony thing. Actually I'm pretty confident that I will pick BWii up, just because it's different. 

 

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#38 Plug1Plug2
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[QUOTE="Hater3000"]Bwii looks more like toy wars.Really it looks too..er..well kiddy.F-Minus

 

After playing Battlefield, Call of Duty, Enemy Teritorry, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell, Brothers in Arms, Operation Flashpoint, Arma, Medal of Honor, Counter-Strike, and name every other possible shooter, It's actually pretty nice to see some form of shooter which doesn't strive to be realistic looking but more like a cartoony thing. Actually I'm pretty confident that I will pick BWii up, just because it's different. 

 

EXACTLY. I'm looking for something different than the same ol same ol.

 

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#39 haziqonfire
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I dont think nintendo gives a crap that its coming out a day before halo.
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it's for another system... so... what's your point? people with a Wii will buy BWii and people with a 360 will buy Halo3..

 

why even ask? 

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#41 elektrixxx
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If you don't have a 360 it will be a non-factor anyway.
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#42 Treal_basic
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it's for another system... so... what's your point? people with a Wii will buy BWii and people with a 360 will buy Halo3..

 

why even ask?

 

because some people own both. in that instance a decision has to be made one or the other? but like people have stated you can get both, or at different times if both games appeal to you. if both were games were exclusive to the same system, then there'd be more of an issue. 

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Because if they didn't people would shout

"OOHHH teh famous Ninty drought."

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#44 Willy105
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It's a sales trick.

People want to play Halo 3, but they can't get an Xbox 360 and pay for the monthly Xbox Live subscription fee.

So what other game can they get that is a FPS, it is just as intense as Halo 3, has cool graphics, and has FREE online?

Battalion Wars 2!

It will sell millions! It will put Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection on the mark! Developers will notice and release more online FPS to Wii!

Nintendo's domination begins!

That is why I officially pronaunce Battalion Wars 2 as the Wii's Halo Killer! 

Feel free to put this on your sig.

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#45 JiveT
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They are smoking the "Who gives a ****" cigaretteOGTiago

I might have to change my sig and replace it with this. No one else do it.

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It's a sales trick.

People want to play Halo 3, but they can't get an Xbox 360 and pay for the monthly Xbox Live subscription fee.

So what other game can they get that is a FPS, it is just as intense as Halo 3, has cool graphics, and has FREE online?

Battalion Wars 2!

It will sell millions! It will put Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection on the mark! Developers will notice and release more online FPS to Wii!

Nintendo's domination begins!

Willy105

It isn't an FPS and I wouldn't say it's as intense as Halo. And I think that is a bit of wishful thinking.. but I am thinking that this game will sell well.

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#47 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

It's a sales trick.

People want to play Halo 3, but they can't get an Xbox 360 and pay for the monthly Xbox Live subscription fee.

So what other game can they get that is a FPS, it is just as intense as Halo 3, has cool graphics, and has FREE online?

Battalion Wars 2!

It will sell millions! It will put Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection on the mark! Developers will notice and release more online FPS to Wii!

Nintendo's domination begins!

Homesrfan

It isn't an FPS and I wouldn't say it's as intense as Halo. And I think that is a bit of wishful thinking.. but I am thinking that this game will sell well.

Ta da! 

Battalion Wars will own sightly! 

 

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#48 luigigreen
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Just because a very high popular game is coming out that week doesn't mean that no other games can come out for other systems that week. There just trying to release games. Now, maybe if it was say, SSBB or SMG, then you could make a case, as I bet it would be buried by Halo 3. But, it's BWii,. It does look like a good game, but it's not a system seller. it's just another game that Nintendo can add to it's line up.
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="Willy105"]

It's a sales trick.

People want to play Halo 3, but they can't get an Xbox 360 and pay for the monthly Xbox Live subscription fee.

So what other game can they get that is a FPS, it is just as intense as Halo 3, has cool graphics, and has FREE online?

Battalion Wars 2!

It will sell millions! It will put Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection on the mark! Developers will notice and release more online FPS to Wii!

Nintendo's domination begins!

Willy105

It isn't an FPS and I wouldn't say it's as intense as Halo. And I think that is a bit of wishful thinking.. but I am thinking that this game will sell well.

Ta da!

Battalion Wars will own sightly!

 

I still wouldn't say it's as intense as Halo.. that's not really a bad thing. It's just a different kind of game. But it does look awesome. I'm definitely picking this up. 

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#50 MoldOnHold
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Eh I don't know about you but I'm picking up both. :)