Call of Duty is a Disgrace

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#1 LittleHands134
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Call of Duty games are a disgrace to the memory of all service men who have died in combat.

This isn't anything like actual combat. In actual combat you don't have the luxury of being able to precisely aim your shots with just iron sights and still have a reticle pop up so you can kill an enemy. You don't have the luxury of an indicator to tell you where a grenade is and how close you are to it. When you're under heavy fire you can't just pop your head up from your cover and look around for someone to shoot at without having to worry about being slaughtered in seconds. You have to think quickly and shoot at anything that moves in front of you, or you will die.

In war there is no relaxation. You can't sit there during a cutscene knowing that you won't be killed or shot at. You don't get checkpoints to start from when you die. You don't get to hide behind a crate while your vision clears to let you know your health is 100%.

War is not a soundtracked trip through the battlefield. War is brutal and war is uncaring.

A group of invincible core-characters, and one or two people the character plays as won't win a war.

In real combat you could be sitting next to your best friend during a break in the combat, he's telling you about his family back at home, and then a sniper fires a bullet through his forehead.

This is a game that caters to people who have no interest in honoring the memory of those who have fallen in wars. This is a game for people who want to follow a happy-ending story where you never die and you can carry ridiculous amounts of ammunition as you're accompanied by a cast of invincible characters.

If my grandfather was alive to see this game, he would be disgusted.
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#2 xXDrPainXx
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Rant much? It is just game just like any other game out there, design for entertainment
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#4 SoNin360
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Take it easy man, it's just a freaking game. Have you played World at War? I'm pretty sure they specifically honor those who died in World War 2 at the end of the campaign, But as for the rest... again... A GAME. Not a movie. A game.
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#6 Cherokee_Jack
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What was the point of that?
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#7 Mr_Apple_Soup
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War is a disgrace

EDIT: no offense to those who have served

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#8 organic_machine
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You are in desperate need of Operation Flashpoint. Go buy it a GOG.com. Let me tell you, that game does war correctly.
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#9 MADKLOWN8480
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Ummmm dude, last time i checked, call of duty was just a game made for entertainment purposes. If your looking for something very realistic to the battlefield, rent black hawk down.
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If you are looking for something realistic, true to the experience of war, and one that honors our armed forces...

JOIN THE ARMED FORCES!

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I see your point, I think that in Call of Duty (and every game) you should have no crosshair and die in one shot.
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#12 Mr_Apple_Soup
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I see your point, I think that in Call of Duty (and every game) you should have no crosshair and die in one shot.Tikicobra

no respawns either, then it will REALLY be worth your $65!

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Its business baby. Make the graphics look as realistic as possible and have the gameplay fun and simplistic for the kids to get into. In mainstream public people just want to play a war game where it makes war fun, therefore calling that realistic, and never have to be told how horrifying a real war is because it'll be too depressing and they'll reject it being part of the definition of war.

Thats how ugly human nature is.

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Games for the general public aren't made to be as realistic as possible.
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#15 nethernova
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So, I played Mario Galaxy and that game is a disgrace to all plumbers. When a real plumber jumps head first into a wall there are no gold coins popping out of it! Instead he will have a terrible headache and not a party with some talking mushroom!
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Its business baby. Make the graphics look as realistic as possible and have the gameplay fun and simplistic for the kids to get into. In mainstream public people just want to play a war game where it makes war fun, therefore calling that realistic, and never have to be told how horrifying a real war is because it'll be too depressing and they'll reject it being part of the definition of war.

Thats how ugly human nature is.

PSdual_wielder
I don't think any sane adult on Earth denies that war isn't fun.
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#17 Great_Ragnarok
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dude the biggest insult isn't the gameplay! ITS THE FACT THAT THEY MAKE MONEY FROM THE EXPLOITATION OF A REAL TRAGIC EVENT! I hope that they at least donate some of the money for troubled areas.
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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]dude the biggest insult isn't the gameplay! THE FACT THAT THEY MAKE MONEY FROM THE EXPLOITATION OF A REAL TRAGIC EVENT! I hope that they at least donate some of the money for troubled areas.

What exactly are you talking about?
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#19 Droopeh
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That is why its a GAME. Jesus Christ some people need to lay off the crack for once.
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#20 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

War is a disgrace

EDIT: no offense to those who have served

None taken. Nailed it on the head though. Human's were not given the most advanced brain on the planet so we can ball up our fists when we disagree.
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#21 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Its business baby. Make the graphics look as realistic as possible and have the gameplay fun and simplistic for the kids to get into. In mainstream public people just want to play a war game where it makes war fun, therefore calling that realistic, and never have to be told how horrifying a real war is because it'll be too depressing and they'll reject it being part of the definition of war.

Thats how ugly human nature is.

Cherokee_Jack

I don't think any sane adult on Earth denies that war isn't fun.

I said kids, those who are too young to know any better. The way the 12 year olds are growing up these days are unbelievable I kid you not. When I left high school most of the younger grades at the time are so ignorant about the world its amazing.

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Video Games are designed to be fun, not realistic.
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#23 AAllxxjjnn
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Dude, Call of Duty is the equivalent of a Michael Bay movie, just for entertainment.
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#24 rorskarch
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its fun.
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#25 cainetao11
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No doubt, PSdual. I have spoken to 10th graders when asked what Dec. 7 represents, one girl said the Titanic sunk.
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#27 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Its business baby. Make the graphics look as realistic as possible and have the gameplay fun and simplistic for the kids to get into. In mainstream public people just want to play a war game where it makes war fun, therefore calling that realistic, and never have to be told how horrifying a real war is because it'll be too depressing and they'll reject it being part of the definition of war.

Thats how ugly human nature is.

PSdual_wielder

I don't think any sane adult on Earth denies that war isn't fun.

I said kids, those who are too young to know any better. The way the 12 year olds are growing up these days are unbelievable I kid you not. When I left high school most of the younger grades at the time are so ignorant about the world its amazing.

You said "mainstream public", not kids. But yes, kids are stupid. I don't think most kids with a decent IQ would deny that war = bad, though.
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Its business baby. Make the graphics look as realistic as possible and have the gameplay fun and simplistic for the kids to get into. In mainstream public people just want to play a war game where it makes war fun, therefore calling that realistic, and never have to be told how horrifying a real war is because it'll be too depressing and they'll reject it being part of the definition of war.

Thats how ugly human nature is.

Cherokee_Jack
I don't think any sane adult on Earth denies that war isn't fun.

do you not read the topic before commenting? TC said "Call of Duty games are a disgrace to the memory of all service men who have died in combat." and then went on to explain his statement criticizing game play. I simply pointed out the more severe act of disgrace commited by these sort of games.. exploitation of soldiers.
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#29 Filthcakes
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Joke thread much?
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#30 Alias_Nemesis
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hehe try GTA IV, that, my friend, is wars in our very streets (depending on where u live, but generally more oriented towards north american community). if u think that war is sad and cry over it, then do something that we live in and actually do something other than weep about it..
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#31 Tiefster
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You're ruining shooters in general TC please just stop. If you think anyone takes games as war simulators then just stop playing them it makes us all very sad.

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] I don't think any sane adult on Earth denies that war isn't fun.Cherokee_Jack

I said kids, those who are too young to know any better. The way the 12 year olds are growing up these days are unbelievable I kid you not. When I left high school most of the younger grades at the time are so ignorant about the world its amazing.

You said "mainstream public", not kids. But yes, kids are stupid. I don't think most kids with a decent IQ would deny that war = bad, though.

Well that's where things get a little tough. Killing is considered bad. That is the main thing in combat that you are forced to do in order to survive. Now what your forced to fight for may not be bad. WW2 was unfortunately necessary to step into. Now if it had been a war of words? Like the cold war, slow drawn out but discussed until a peaceful resolution came to, that would have been ideal.
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I simply pointed out the more severe act of disgrace commited by these sort of games.. exploitation of soldiers.Great_Ragnarok
Is Empire: Total War also exploiting soldiers?
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[QUOTE="Tikicobra"]I see your point, I think that in Call of Duty (and every game) you should have no crosshair and die in one shot.Mr_Apple_Soup

no respawns either, then it will REALLY be worth your $65!

Yup and after that the disc blows up and you can't play it again. 1 life only baby.
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]I simply pointed out the more severe act of disgrace commited by these sort of games.. exploitation of soldiers.Cherokee_Jack
Is Empire: Total War also exploiting soldiers?

18th century mounted dragoons are coming out of the woodwork to protest that one.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="Tikicobra"]I see your point, I think that in Call of Duty (and every game) you should have no crosshair and die in one shot.Candy-Star

no respawns either, then it will REALLY be worth your $65!

Yup and after that the disc blows up and you can't play it again. 1 life only baby.

Hideo Kojima actually wanted to do that.
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WW2 was unfortunately necessary to step into. Now if it had been a war of words? Like the cold war, slow drawn out but discussed until a peaceful resolution came to, that would have been ideal.cainetao11

In some situations, but not in WW2. Europe could not have been left to the Nazis for 50 years while diplomats tried to arrange a peaceful resolution.

But this is getting really OT.

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[QUOTE=Yup and after that the disc blows up and you can't play it again. 1 life only baby.

Hideo Kojima actually wanted to do that.

What exactly did he intend to do? *the quote really screwed up eh?
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]WW2 was unfortunately necessary to step into. Now if it had been a war of words? Like the cold war, slow drawn out but discussed until a peaceful resolution came to, that would have been ideal.Cherokee_Jack

In some situations, but not in WW2. Europe could not have been left to the Nazis for 50 years while diplomats tried to arrange a peaceful resolution.

But this is getting really OT.

Good point. But as I said necessary to step into. Also we didn't step in until Japan attacked Pearl.
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[QUOTE=Yup and after that the disc blows up and you can't play it again. 1 life only baby.Candy-Star
Hideo Kojima actually wanted to do that.

What exactly did he intend to do? *the quote really screwed up eh?

*hope it works for me... He had the thought once to make a game in which you get one life. When you die, the game locks and can't be use again, hyper realism. Want another chance? Buy another copy. But, he couldn't do it, for obvious reasons.
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#41 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

I said kids, those who are too young to know any better. The way the 12 year olds are growing up these days are unbelievable I kid you not. When I left high school most of the younger grades at the time are so ignorant about the world its amazing.

cainetao11

You said "mainstream public", not kids. But yes, kids are stupid. I don't think most kids with a decent IQ would deny that war = bad, though.

Well that's where things get a little tough. Killing is considered bad. That is the main thing in combat that you are forced to do in order to survive. Now what your forced to fight for may not be bad. WW2 was unfortunately necessary to step into. Now if it had been a war of words? Like the cold war, slow drawn out but discussed until a peaceful resolution came to, that would have been ideal.

Just to let you know there was violence during the cold war. Americans and Russians had fought in occasions, but just not so out of proportions enough to have been considered a real war.

But despite that cold war is nothing close to the 'ideal' way of resolve. It was more like an era of horror more than anything.

The ideal way to solve an argument is to sit at a table and talk over it, something neither side felt like doing back then.

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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]I simply pointed out the more severe act of disgrace commited by these sort of games.. exploitation of soldiers.Cherokee_Jack
Is Empire: Total War also exploiting soldiers?

well I guess they are. movies,tv series and games do it. I think they should at least use part of the profit for charity of some sort.
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I thought that it was supposed to make you think war is fun so that you would be more likely to join?
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]I simply pointed out the more severe act of disgrace commited by these sort of games.. exploitation of soldiers.Great_Ragnarok
Is Empire: Total War also exploiting soldiers?

well I guess they are. movies,tv series and games do it. I think they should at least use part of the profit for charity of some sort.

Why? What is the huge crime in using a historical event as a backdrop for a game?
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I thought that it was supposed to make you think war is fun so that you would be more likely to join?Jfisch93
Case in point: America's Army - a game produced by the American Military.
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#46 Mehdi1984
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Ya, they should also kill you IRL if you die in-game.