Can anybody explain to me what's so good about Mass Effect 2?

Ok, so just yesterday I finally finished Mass Effect 1 on PC and without a sigle doubt I rushed to a store and bought ME 2 for PC, go home, and installed it.

After seeing the MC average review of 96, same as Uncharted 2, seeing the IGN article "ME 2 is better than U2" I had a lot of expectations from this game, "Wow, this is a game that is better than U2, one of the best game of all time" so I played the game and I thought.......

WTF? How can anybody said this game very good?

You can't change your armor, just upgrade it, and you can't change or modify your friend's armor, you can't toogle-helmet in the middle of the mission, there's no equipment in the menu, when you gained level-up you can't upgrade your status anymore, just skill point....

Gameplay...what? So I'm playing Gears of War+COD now? Seriously? I want to play RPG, not TPS! So now if I'm taking cover your heal regained just like when I played COD? What the....so what's the point of having Medigel in this game? Only for Unity? Pfffttt!!

Graphic.....did I heard some lemmings said this game on 360 has better graphic than U2? What a bulls**t....I played it on my PC and everything are maxed out!! Better than U2? They're not even on the same levels!! U2 graphics and animations are 100 times better than ME 2!! Seriously, anybody said ME 2 graphics are better than U2 proves he didn't have a PS3!

So, I only played it until I met Garrus as Archangel and then I got bored up and then turn off my PC, never touched it again.

So, please SW, can anybody told me a reason why ME 2 is so good besides the story? Because so far, ME 2 is one of my biggest dissapointment this year, better than Uncharted 2? I'm really glad GS only gave this game score 9.0 not 9.5 because ME 2 is no way better than Uncharted 2

Mass Effect 2 is not a RPG as far as I'm concerned. I passed the game just recently. I enjoyed it, but not as much as the first ME which was more like a RPG and less like a TPS.

I loved gameplay and story of the first one.

The gameplay and story of the second one was alright,

The graphics overall are just ok.

8 or 9 is the perfect score for ME2 imo.

It may not be for you. Dont down it because you dont like it.

Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. themyth01

The world is not that expansive. Scanning planets is not my idea of an expansive world.

ME2 isin't an RPG, its a shooter with alot of talking, and amazing one at that, with a very well fleshed out universe.

Your complaints are things which made ME2 better over ME.

If you want a real RPG go play The Witcher or Dragon Age, of if you want lots of loot get Torchlight or Titan Quest. There's nothing wrong with ME2.

Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. themyth01

The MGS4 comment was irrevelant....

Ever think maybe you have a different opinion than most others?

I thought MGS4 was crap, that didn't stop it from getting 10 on here.

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. dream431ca

The world is not that expansive. Scanning planets is not my idea of an expansive world.

Lol. I always find it amusing when people bring this up.

ME2 removes the TERRIBLE inventory system that ME1 had, and suddenly it's not an RPG?

Do some people really play RPGs for items? I don't understand the fascination with being able to pick up massive amounts of random crap that you aren't going to use.

In my mind, ME2 is more of an RPG than the vast majority of supposedly-"pure" RPGs released this generation.

Wanna hear something funny? I never enjoyed uncharted, or GOW, yes it is strange how people can have *GASP* OPINIONS?!? :o

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. Ryukaton

The MGS4 comment was irrevelant....

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. themyth01

The world is not that expansive. Scanning planets is not my idea of an expansive world.

I do agree.

its a shooter with alot of talking, and amazing one at that, with a very well fleshed out universe.Snagal123

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Awesome story, presenetaion, gameplay, story paths, expansive world, and fun to play. I ask myself the same question about MGS4 though. themyth01

The world is not that expansive. Scanning planets is not my idea of an expansive world.

The thing is that linear games are supposed to be linear,unlike Mass Effect.

Don't forget the DLC vehicle thing. Can't wait for that.Ravensmash

Yeah,I hope it comes out next week.

Lol. I always find it amusing when people bring this up.

ME2 removes the TERRIBLE inventory system that ME1 had, and suddenly it's not an RPG?

Do some people really play RPGs for items? I don't understand the fascination with being able to pick up massive amounts of random crap that you aren't going to use.

In my mind, ME2 is more of an RPG than the vast majority of supposedly-"pure" RPGs released this generation.

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]its a shooter with alot of talking, and amazing one at that, with a very well fleshed out universe.IronBass

Character customization is an important part of any RPG. ME2 removing the inventory limits that part. But I agree, though. That does not stop it from being a RPG hybrid.IronBass

It's a downer in the RPG aspect but I still thought they did a tons of things better to make up for that such as more interesting missions, better character development, and gameplay. Hopefully in ME3 they would focus more on the RPG elements.

It seems that you were looking more for an RPG than an action game. ME2 is more of an action game than an RPG, but in the best way possible. Fantastic combat, streamlined gameplay, and a great cast of characters that put the story on a more personal level.

It removed all the muck that the original had, bringing a much more focused game that never wastes your time.

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]its a shooter with alot of talking, and amazing one at that, with a very well fleshed out universe.IronBass

Some of those things apply to other games thataren'tRPGs.

Sure it has RPG elements, but its more a shooter, thats not a bad thing. Its better to call it a new genre, the Bioware genre.

But when i think RPG, i think The Witcher, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate. When i think action RPG,Titan Quest, Diablo,i dont think Mass Effect 2. But hey, i wouldn't consider many JRPGs, RPGs at all, more action/adventure games.

Personelly i happy with the removing of many RPG aspects, it allows to focus more on what their great at, charatcers, dialogue, story and setting.

It definitely IS an RPG.

I think some people are just mad that it's changing things up a bit.

Velocitas8

I can tell you i'm glad it is removing many of the RPG elements to focus on making the SHOOTING better :P

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]its a shooter with alot of talking, and amazing one at that, with a very well fleshed out universe.Velocitas8

It definitely IS an RPG.

I think some people are just mad that it's changing things up a bit.

I disagree. An RPG levels up your character. In ME2 all you do is level up your ammo ability's (basically your guns). ME2 is more of a 3rd person adventure with customizable options. You want to see what a real RPG is, play Dragon Age or better yet Baldur's gate 2.

It's a downer in the RPG aspect but I still thought they did a tons of things better to make up for that such as more interesting missions, better character development, and gameplay. Hopefully in ME3 they would focus more on the RPG elements.

klusps

dont know havent played it yet but i wasnt a big fan of the 1st one i just dont like the Moral choices in games they are pointless most of my friends when they 1st got ME2 they were like best game they ever played, game of the year for sure blah blah blah and the longer they played it the more disappointing the game was to them

[QUOTE="klusps"]

It's a downer in the RPG aspect but I still thought they did a tons of things better to make up for that such as more interesting missions, better character development, and gameplay. Hopefully in ME3 they would focus more on the RPG elements.

themyth01

I agree with you,but still its pretty lame how Bioware claims it as RPG.

of those things apply to other games thataren'tRPGs Snagal123

I agree with you,but still its pretty lame how Bioware claims it as RPG.Ryukaton

Can anybody explain to me what's so good about Mass Effect 2?

Did it ever occur to you to read some of the reviews? They are far more enlightening than a forum with a bunch of people who have agendas.

But then again, I don't think you are seeking an answer to your question at all, knowing your post history.

In ME2 all you do is level up your ammo ability's (basically your guns). dream431ca

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]of those things apply to other games that aren't RPGs IronBass

Fine you can call it a RPG, i will call it a shooter. If we both agree the game is awesome, what does it matter? :D

I just hope ME3 improves on the shooting more, before it improves those RPG elements, i do NOT want loot/inventory coming back :)

Ok, so just yesterday I finally finished Mass Effect 1 on PC and without a sigle doubt I rushed to a store and bought ME 2 for PC, go home, and installed it.

After seeing the MC average review of 96, same as Uncharted 2, seeing the IGN article "ME 2 is better than U2" I had a lot of expectations from this game, "Wow, this is a game that is better than U2, one of the best game of all time" so I played the game and I thought.......

WTF? How can anybody said this game very good?

You can't change your armor, just upgrade it, and you can't change or modify your friend's armor, you can't toogle-helmet in the middle of the mission, there's no equipment in the menu, when you gained level-up you can't upgrade your status anymore, just skill point....

Gameplay...what? So I'm playing Gears of War+COD now? Seriously? I want to play RPG, not TPS! So now if I'm taking cover your heal regained just like when I played COD? What the....so what's the point of having Medigel in this game? Only for Unity? Pfffttt!!

Graphic.....did I heard some lemmings said this game on 360 has better graphic than U2? What a bulls**t....I played it on my PC and everything are maxed out!! Better than U2? They're not even on the same levels!! U2 graphics and animations are 100 times better than ME 2!! Seriously, anybody said ME 2 graphics are better than U2 proves he didn't have a PS3!

So, I only played it until I met Garrus as Archangel and then I got bored up and then turn off my PC, never touched it again.

So, please SW, can anybody told me a reason why ME 2 is so good besides the story? Because so far, ME 2 is one of my biggest dissapointment this year, better than Uncharted 2? I'm really glad GS only gave this game score 9.0 not 9.5 because ME 2 is no way better than Uncharted 2

ihsanqueen

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]of those things apply to other games that aren't RPGs Snagal123

Fine you can call it a RPG, i will call it a shooter. If we both agree the game is awesome, what does it matter? :D

I just hope ME3 improves on the shooting more, before it improves those RPG elements, i do NOT want loot/inventory coming back :)

I disagree. An RPG levels up your character. In ME2 all you do is level up your ammo ability's (basically your guns). ME2 is more of a 3rd person adventure with customizable options. You want to see what a real RPG is, play Dragon Age or better yet Baldur's gate 2.dream431ca

Wrong. Have you even played ME2...?

As for your "real RPG" recommendations.....you're telling me to play games I've already played bro:

If Mass Effect 2 was on the PS3 and not the Xbox 360 then this thread would not exist. OP also proved that he's played about 2 to 3 hours of the game. Not much considering its a 30+ hour RPG.KittenWishes

Yeah it would, it'd just be created by a lem instead. I see what you're getting at though. :P

So TC, your whining about the TPS gameplay? Yeah, instead of just spamming biotic abilities like you could have in the first ME, this one requires you to actually strategize what you want to do. The inventory system in the first sucked too, customizing your armor is way less time consuming.

It's okay TC... apparently you love MGS, and that, well tells me all I need to know.

It's okay TC... apparently you love MGS, and that, well tells me all I need to know.

moistsandwich

So,from now on we are not allowed to have exclusive games avatars because we are considered a lemming/cow/sheep.

Lulz, funnily enough I think the shooting is good enough and I do want the inventory and looting back. IronBass

It needs blind fire and some adjusting of where you can peer out from at times depending on the height of the cover.

I would REALLY like them to bring back the old overheat weapon system as well, and also keep the thermal clips. I should have a choice between a gun that i have to control its temperature and a gun i can just pop the thermal clip. They did a bad job of explaining this really, felt a step back in the technology of the universe.

"Oh noes my gun with infinite ammo can not fire because i have no thermal clip, and now i can't even let me clip cool down!!??"

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="klusps"]

It's a downer in the RPG aspect but I still thought they did a tons of things better to make up for that such as more interesting missions, better character development, and gameplay. Hopefully in ME3 they would focus more on the RPG elements.

Ryukaton

I agree with you,but still its pretty lame how Bioware claims it as RPG.

It's more lame that you think it's somehow lame to call a game that has its fair share of RPG elements an RPG.

I suppose you would have a problem with Atlus calling Demons Souls an RPG, which would be lame as well.

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Lulz, funnily enough I think the shooting is good enough and I do want the inventory and looting back. Snagal123

It needs blind fire and some adjusting of where you can peer out from at times depending on the height of the cover.

I would REALLY like them to bring back the old overheat weapon system as well, and also keep the thermal clips. I should have a choice between a gun that i have to control its temperature and a gun i can just pop the thermal clip. They did a bad job of explaining this really, felt a step back in the technology of the universe.

"Oh noes my gun with infinite ammo can not fire because i have no thermal clip, and now i can't even let me clip cool down!!??"

nd I love the thermal clips. An ammo system makes things more intense (having to come out of cover to pick up clips is quite fun, especially on insanity when each clip can be the difference between life and death).

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Ryukaton"]

I agree with you,but still its pretty lame how Bioware claims it as RPG.

Ryukaton

It's more lame that you think it's somehow lame to call a game that has its fair share of RPG elements an RPG.

lol wut?

The fact that you think it is lame to call a game with its fair share of RPG elements an RPG is lame in itself.

What the heck is so hard to understand about that?

Do you think it would somehow be lame for me to call Demon Soul's an RPG?