Can anybody explain to me what's so good about Mass Effect 2?

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#101 jasonharris48
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Lol @ the people who claim Mass Effect 1 & 2 aren't action RPG's. As for TC's question for me it was the presentation, story, atmosphere and characters (not so much in the first ME though, only cared for a few of the main castin the first). IMO, it is the best Space Opera story that has been presented in a video game.

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#102 Magik85
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Its a matter of taste TC. For example i cant see why people love Uncharted 2 or CoD and FF series. For me ME2 is best game this gen so far...all about the taste..
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#103 JigglyWiggly_
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Screw RPG, I wish ME2 was more like a shooter, and I loved the game.

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#104 iamdanthaman
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If you have the settings maxed and U2 looks 100x better, that means your computer is a piece of crap, not the game.
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#105 SapSacPrime
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You think UC2 looks better than ME2 PC maxed out + you have a MGS4 avatar = you are most likely letting your SW fanboy goggles ruin a great experience in gaming. That or you haven't even seen it maxed on a PC, Oblivion maxed on my PC still looks better than any console game I have played.

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#106 Supabul
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Mass Effect 2 makes the universe seem small

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#107 skrat_01
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So you play Diablo wondering why there aren't any dialogue options or multiple paths in completing quests?

Mass Effect 2 is an action RPG focusing on cover shooting mechanics and a variety of progression paths in character development.

You didn't like it, there isn't anything wrong with the game.

Its your opinion don't you know. :?

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#108 PAL360
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Story(s), gameplay, graphics, sound, etc

Almost everything is awesome on Mass Effect 2

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#110 ihsanqueen
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If you have the settings maxed and U2 looks 100x better, that means your computer is a piece of crap, not the game.iamdanthaman

My PC can handle Crysis with graphics setting very high, and yes, I still think Uncharted 2 graphics are better than ME 2 on PC, heck even Killzone 2 was better

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#111 h575309
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The fact that you said the gameplay is like COD+GeoW makes me think you didnt play the game, or you were drunk and playing CoD but thought you were playing ME2.

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#112 SecretPolice
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Reading the the popular gaming sites reviews will have a "Mass Effect" on your understanding on what makes it so good. :P

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#113 musicalmac  Moderator
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I'm still wondering how it didn't get at least 9.5. I just beat it myself, and everybody survived! w00t!! :D
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#114 Dahaka-UK
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A game can't please everyone.Stevo_the_gamer
But it should really be trying to please Mass Effect 1 fans, shouldn't it? Regardless it improved in one area and sacrificed a lot of other things in return. It would of been a much better game if they left the role playing elements intact.
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#115 ihsanqueen
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The fact that you said the gameplay is like COD+GeoW makes me think you didnt play the game, or you were drunk and playing CoD but thought you were playing ME2.

h575309
Have you ever played COD and ME 2? On COD if you take too many damage, your screen will starting to go red, and if you covered and wait for a second, your health back to normal again and the screen go normal too....the same thing happened with ME 2 Really, I think you're the one who haven't played COD and ME.....
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#116 ChiChiMonKilla
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Never played ME2 yet but I heard it's not that deep and not very long either but when the price drops lower I will grab it on pc.

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#117 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

The fact that you said the gameplay is like COD+GeoW makes me think you didnt play the game, or you were drunk and playing CoD but thought you were playing ME2.

ihsanqueen

Have you ever played COD and ME 2? On COD if you take too many damage, your screen will starting to go red, and if you covered and wait for a second, your health back to normal again and the screen go normal too....the same thing happened with ME 2 Really, I think you're the one who haven't played COD and ME.....

so they made medical exoskeleton/interface from the first game standard, who cares

what matters is they made the combat much better than the first game which at times could be a chore and penalized players who wanted to be fully biotic or tech

and besides simply making it better, it's even far more fun combat than most shooters lately, including Uncharted 2 or Gears of War

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#118 jwsoul
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A game can't please everyone.Stevo_the_gamer
Agreed i disliked the 1st one so i have avoided this one. Just to add in the future read reviews they are there for a reason and the GS review or another review mentions the direction towards 3rd person action over RPG. They also mention the Armour, weapon and leveling system. READ THE REVIEWS.
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#119 -Snooze-
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I find it funny that people call ME2 a shooter. Yet UC2 a platformer.

I guess Borderlands is an RPG?

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#120 Hahadouken
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Well sir, I think you are wrong. It seems like you picked apart the few things Mass 2 changed from Mass 1 and hammered on them.

They took healing items out because nobody likes healing items. Health bars are not fun. COD didn't start the health regen thing either, so COD has nothing to do with Mass 2.

I can give you 20 reasons why it's an incredible game, but it sounds like your mind is already made up.

I will agree that the graphics are not as good as Uncharted 2's though. I've played all the "graphics king" console games and U2 easily takes them all out.

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#121 Hahadouken
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I find it funny that people call ME2 a shooter. Yet UC2 a platformer.

I guess Borderlands is an RPG?

-Snooze-
Yeah? If Diablo is an RPG then so is Borderlands. Also, Mass and Uncharted are both hybrid games, but U2 is certainly more of a platformer than Mass.
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#122 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I find it funny that people call ME2 a shooter. Yet UC2 a platformer.

I guess Borderlands is an RPG?

Hahadouken

Yeah? If Diablo is an RPG then so is Borderlands. Also, Mass and Uncharted are both hybrid games, but U2 is certainly more of a platformer than Mass.

If people can call ME2 a shooter, then the same should be said of UC2. UC2 is more likepure TPS then ME2 is.

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#123 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I find it funny that people call ME2 a shooter. Yet UC2 a platformer.

I guess Borderlands is an RPG?

Hahadouken

Yeah? If Diablo is an RPG then so is Borderlands. Also, Mass and Uncharted are both hybrid games, but U2 is certainly more of a platformer than Mass.

How is that competitive on-line platforming going ? :twisted:

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#124 88mphSlayer
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I find it funny that people call ME2 a shooter. Yet UC2 a platformer.

I guess Borderlands is an RPG?

-Snooze-

UC2 is a horrible platformer anyways

a good platformer is Mirror's Edge, it punishes you for making a mistake and gives you multiple routes that you actually have to execute

Uncharted 2 doesn't punish you for making mistakes, and there's only one route that you just hold the stick in a direction and maybe press X once in awhile

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#125 h575309
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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="h575309"]

The fact that you said the gameplay is like COD+GeoW makes me think you didnt play the game, or you were drunk and playing CoD but thought you were playing ME2.

Have you ever played COD and ME 2? On COD if you take too many damage, your screen will starting to go red, and if you covered and wait for a second, your health back to normal again and the screen go normal too....the same thing happened with ME 2 Really, I think you're the one who haven't played COD and ME.....

So the gameplay is the same because they both have health regen?
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#126 ihsanqueen
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="h575309"]

The fact that you said the gameplay is like COD+GeoW makes me think you didnt play the game, or you were drunk and playing CoD but thought you were playing ME2.

Have you ever played COD and ME 2? On COD if you take too many damage, your screen will starting to go red, and if you covered and wait for a second, your health back to normal again and the screen go normal too....the same thing happened with ME 2 Really, I think you're the one who haven't played COD and ME.....

So the gameplay is the same because they both have health regen?

Yup, you're right, considering the ME 1 didn't have that kind of thing.....thats why I said ME 2 gameplay is GeOW + CoD
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#127 h575309
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Wow, I never thought of it that way. I guess we should never bother to play another game with health regen again because they are all exactly the same.

Jeesh, so I guess I should just throw away uncharted 2 and borderlands as well, because they have health regen too.

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#128 ihsanqueen
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Wow, I never thought of it that way. I guess we should never bother to play another game with health regen again because they are all exactly the same.

Jeesh, so I guess I should just throw away uncharted 2 and borderlands as well, because they have health regen too.

h575309
I don't mean that, but the thing is actually in ME 1 you got a health bar and you can use Medi-Gel to restore your health, and Unity is skill to revive fallen members.... But in ME 2 you got health regen so Medi-Gel is actually quite useless, only used when you activate the skill Unity...
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#129 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Yeah? If Diablo is an RPG then so is Borderlands. Also, Mass and Uncharted are both hybrid games, but U2 is certainly more of a platformer than Mass. Hahadouken


If people can call ME2 a shooter, then the same should be said of UC2. UC2 is more likepure TPS then ME2 is.



Um no? In Mass when you are at a TPS part, it is pure. Third-person shooting is your only option. In Uncharted you can still platform ie climb over objects, climb up to a higher vantage point, run up and land a melee combo. In Mass 2 you can only vault over certain cover, even if its the right height (same goes for Gears), and the melee is one attack that you do over and over. U2 is undoubtedly more of a platformer/melee action game than Mass 2 is.


How is that competitive on-line platforming going ? :twisted:SecretPolice



I don't know what you're getting at, but I'm sure it's clever and barbed. :P

Seriously though, what is that supposed to mean?





OH MY GOD IF GAMESPOT BUTCHERS ANOTHER POST'S QUOTES OR DELETES MY LINE BREAKS AGAIN I AM GOING BALLISTIC/NUCLEAR. THIS IS THE 7TH EFFING PREVIEW.

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#130 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

Wow, I never thought of it that way. I guess we should never bother to play another game with health regen again because they are all exactly the same.

Jeesh, so I guess I should just throw away uncharted 2 and borderlands as well, because they have health regen too.

ihsanqueen


I don't mean that, but the thing is actually in ME 1 you got a health bar and you can use Medi-Gel to restore your health, and Unity is skill to revive fallen members....
But in ME 2 you got health regen so Medi-Gel is actually quite useless, only used when you activate the skill Unity...




... and Unity revives your fallen squad members. Remind me how that's useless?


*SPOILER*

Fight the Geth Colossus in the sun during the mission to save Tali and tell me you didn't have to use Unity a couple of times.

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#131 Nugtoka
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I'm sure if it was a Ps3 exclusive it would have been the best game ever made. Funny how fanboys see things.

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#132 Vaasman
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It was funny for a while guys, but the whole "ME2 isn't an RPG" thing is starting to get old now.

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#133 Adrian_Cloud
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Well sir, I think you are wrong. It seems like you picked apart the few things Mass 2 changed from Mass 1 and hammered on them.

They took healing items out because nobody likes healing items. Health bars are not fun. COD didn't start the health regen thing either, so COD has nothing to do with Mass 2.

I can give you 20 reasons why it's an incredible game, but it sounds like your mind is already made up.

I will agree that the graphics are not as good as Uncharted 2's though. I've played all the "graphics king" console games and U2 easily takes them all out.

Hahadouken

lol... what are the 20 reasons? Atleast he gave his, i think its a case of disappointment. Mass Effect was one of my favourite games, but what they improved from and what they took away in ME2 definitely prevented the game from being as good as the first. Its obvious he likes the game or some parts of it, and liked the the previous one, i'm in the same boat as him the only thing keeping me playing is the story. I mean the game is fun but its not really engaging me, like ME1 which was a proper RPG.

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In ME2 you customize your character and his party, you level up abilities. You make story based choices. You research upgrades, it has multiple endings.

In UC2 you can shoot people, punch peopleand climb at given intervals.

ME2 is far more a TPS/RPG hybrid, then UC2 is a platformer/TPS hybrid

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#135 Adrian_Cloud
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It was funny for a while guys, but the whole "ME2 isn't an RPG" thing is starting to get old now.

Vaasman

Whats your point, most people think its not an RPG. The consensus is that it is an action game first. What you posted doesn't prove anyone wrong, its more action than rpg either way you put it.

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#136 BioShockOwnz
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Cause it's amazing.

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#137 Adrian_Cloud
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In ME2 you customize your character and his party, you level up abilities. You make story based choices. You research upgrades, it has multiple endings.

In UC2 you can shoot people, punch peopleand climb at given intervals.

ME2 is far more a TPS/RPG hybrid, then UC2 is a platformer/TPS hybrid

-Snooze-
Uncharted 2 is a better game......
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#138 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

If people can call ME2 a shooter, then the same should be said of UC2. UC2 is more likepure TPS then ME2 is.

Hahadouken



Um no? In Mass when you are at a TPS part, it is pure. Third-person shooting is your only option. In Uncharted you can still platform ie climb over objects, climb up to a higher vantage point, run up and land a melee combo. In Mass 2 you can only vault over certain cover, even if its the right height (same goes for Gears), and the melee is one attack that you do over and over. U2 is undoubtedly more of a platformer/melee action game than Mass 2 is.


How is that competitive on-line platforming going ? :twisted:SecretPolice



I don't know what you're getting at, but I'm sure it's clever and barbed. :P

Seriously though, what is that supposed to mean?





OH MY GOD IF GAMESPOT BUTCHERS ANOTHER POST'S QUOTES OR DELETES MY LINE BREAKS AGAIN I AM GOING BALLISTIC/NUCLEAR. THIS IS THE 7TH EFFING PREVIEW.

tehe,just messin around but yeah sorta but it's odd that UC2 is called a platformer yet the on-line is all about shooting each other right ? Some even were trying to compare it to Halo 3 on-line....:P

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#139 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

In ME2 you customize your character and his party, you level up abilities. You make story based choices. You research upgrades, it has multiple endings.

In UC2 you can shoot people, punch peopleand climb at given intervals.

ME2 is far more a TPS/RPG hybrid, then UC2 is a platformer/TPS hybrid

Adrian_Cloud

Uncharted 2 is a better game......

Fair opinion.

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#140 Luther_10
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If Mass Effect 2 was on the PS3 and not the Xbox 360 then this thread would not exist. OP also proved that he's played about 2 to 3 hours of the game. Not much considering its a 30+ hour RPG.KittenWishes

Oh please, you seriously believe that to be true?

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#142 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

It was funny for a while guys, but the whole "ME2 isn't an RPG" thing is starting to get old now.

Adrian_Cloud

Whats your point, most people think its not an RPG. The consensus is that it is an action game first. What you posted doesn't prove anyone wrong, its more action than rpg either way you put it.

hate to break it to you, but it is an RPG, it streamlines but retains all the most important aspects of an rpg

you can argue whether or not you think it's a good RPG, but taste doesn't determine whether a game is in a genre or not

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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Wow, I never thought of it that way. I guess we should never bother to play another game with health regen again because they are all exactly the same.

Jeesh, so I guess I should just throw away uncharted 2 and borderlands as well, because they have health regen too.

Hahadouken



I don't mean that, but the thing is actually in ME 1 you got a health bar and you can use Medi-Gel to restore your health, and Unity is skill to revive fallen members....
But in ME 2 you got health regen so Medi-Gel is actually quite useless, only used when you activate the skill Unity...




... and Unity revives your fallen squad members. Remind me how that's useless?


*SPOILER*

Fight the Geth Colossus in the sun during the mission to save Tali and tell me you didn't have to use Unity a couple of times.

Yeah, the funny thing is in ME 1 you don't need Medigel to use Unity but in ME 2 you need a medi-gel? Then, what's the point of Unity skill in ME 2? Just remove it and change the term like ME 1, just click the 'F' button to use Medigel to regain your health and revive your fallen member

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#145 ihsanqueen
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I'm sure if it was a Ps3 exclusive it would have been the best game ever made. Funny how fanboys see things.

Nugtoka
No, if MGS 4 is on PS3 and PC it'll still scored 10 here on GS and still the best game this generation.......
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#146 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

It was funny for a while guys, but the whole "ME2 isn't an RPG" thing is starting to get old now.

Adrian_Cloud

Whats your point, most people think its not an RPG. The consensus is that it is an action game first. What you posted doesn't prove anyone wrong, its more action than rpg either way you put it.

Oh really?

Leveling, experience, questing, heavy story focus, customizable armor, looting, trading, weapon upgrades, biotic upgrades, and tech upgrades.

You're right that's not like any RPG ever made.

:roll:

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#147 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"]

I don't mean that, but the thing is actually in ME 1 you got a health bar and you can use Medi-Gel to restore your health, and Unity is skill to revive fallen members....
But in ME 2 you got health regen so Medi-Gel is actually quite useless, only used when you activate the skill Unity...ihsanqueen




... and Unity revives your fallen squad members. Remind me how that's useless?


*SPOILER*

Fight the Geth Colossus in the sun during the mission to save Tali and tell me you didn't have to use Unity a couple of times.

Yeah, the funny thing is in ME 1 you don't need Medigel to use Unity but in ME 2 you need a medi-gel? Then, what's the point of Unity skill in ME 2? Just remove it and change the term like ME 1, just click the 'F' button to use Medigel to regain your health and revive your fallen member

in ME1 medigel doesn't revive fallen party members

in ME2 unifying Unity and medi-gel puts a limit on how many times you can revive party members, that's pretty much the extent of the changes made

it's not really a big deal

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#148 naval
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It would say it's an average game -- and average RPG and average shooter, enjoyable but nothing to brag about
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#149 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

I'm sure if it was a Ps3 exclusive it would have been the best game ever made. Funny how fanboys see things.

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No, if MGS 4 is on PS3 and PC it'll still scored 10 here on GS and still the best game this generation.......

It's the THPS3 of this generation? So you agree THPS3 is better than Ico, SotC, MGS3, etc?

Just like you don't seem to care for the ME2 score, I don't seem to care about the MGS4 score. That game bored me more than a game of chess.

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#150 h575309
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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

I'm sure if it was a Ps3 exclusive it would have been the best game ever made. Funny how fanboys see things.

No, if MGS 4 is on PS3 and PC it'll still scored 10 here on GS and still the most overrated game this generation.......

Fixed for truth