Can anyone actaully explain how Graphics work for me?

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

ndrliang2

Whatever looks more pleasing to the eye. For example, I think WoW has better visuals than Halo 3, even though on a technical scale Halo 3 is much more advanced.

But how graphics work, no idea.

google it my friend

[QUOTE="ndrliang2"]

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

Koalakommander

Whatever looks more pleasing to the eye. For example, I think WoW has better visuals than Halo 3, even though on a technical scale Halo 3 is much more advanced.

But how graphics work, no idea.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="ndrliang2"]

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

Condemned-Postr

Whatever looks more pleasing to the eye. For example, I think WoW has better visuals than Halo 3, even though on a technical scale Halo 3 is much more advanced.

But how graphics work, no idea.

I think WoW is a gorgeous game IMO. Halo 3 doesn't really turn heads.

I think WoW is a gorgeous game IMO. Halo 3 doesn't really turn heads.

Koalakommander

To most people here who know about 640p and care about jaggies.

Halo 3 turns casual heads around. Especially that cutscene after "Floodgate". My god, that's gorgeous.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

I think WoW is a gorgeous game IMO. Halo 3 doesn't really turn heads.

FrozenLiquid

To most people here who know about 640p and care about jaggies.

Halo 3 turns casual heads around. Especially that cutscene after "Floodgate". My god, that's gorgeous.

you mean at the beginning of level 6? check this out (download it to your 360, it will look much better) http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=viper231 its the one called Beautiful, i think 4th one down.

[QUOTE="Condemned-Postr"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="ndrliang2"]

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

Koalakommander

Whatever looks more pleasing to the eye. For example, I think WoW has better visuals than Halo 3, even though on a technical scale Halo 3 is much more advanced.

But how graphics work, no idea.

I think WoW is a gorgeous game IMO. Halo 3 doesn't really turn heads.

I don't really understand graphics, as a whole. In one cornor I hear that the Xbox has very slightly better graphics. However is this interview with Steven Ter Heide (producer of Killzone) and he said "Large quantities of data can be streamed because we have a great deal of storage capacity. This allows for the level of detail you can see in the game." To me the more detail= better graphics. How does the storage cpacity on disks help with graphics vs. the graphics card?

(Please no flaming, only post if you have something useful to say)

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=140708

ndrliang2

this is interesting, because 360 has nothing on heavy rain or killzone 2 (im sure alan wake DX10 PC wont look nething close on 360), and crysis cant be run on PS3, but PC has nothing that can outshine heavy rain, or KZ2 in graphics (im not saying crysis is bad, i just mean like a game that really makes those look like crap so dont flame me...) but in the long run id say...

1st/2ndPC orPS3

3rd Xbox 360

4th Wii

neways,

PS3 has better grpahics than 360, because the RSX is compairable to the 360's graphics card alone, but the PS3s Cell can boost the RSX, and do textures, and other things taking most of the work off of the RSX, even then the cell has never used more than 3 of its 8 SPEs though 1 is used for the OS so really 7, unless somehting is patched to free that up its 7. also the PS3 has a HDD (manditory)which the 360 dosnt, so the PS3 can install games ro reduce load times, and allow for faster streaming, much like a PC.

Better storage allows the developer to store higher detailed textures. Of course it loses it's value if the system is bottlenecked by the memory.iunderstand

256MB memory is enough, when its being moved at 3.2ghz, lets not forget the graphics card has another 256MB at 800mhz, it goes just fine

You look at the screen and see something.Brmarlin

THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION WITHOUT LEAVING ME TO WONDER ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.

(sarcasm)

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]Better storage allows the developer to store higher detailed textures. Of course it loses it's value if the system is bottlenecked by the memory.JAMES_L_BROOKS

256MB memory is enough, when its being moved at 3.2ghz, lets not forget the graphics card has another 256MB at 800mhz, it goes just fine

Speed is irrelevant when it comes to texturing data. It can only hold however much memory is there, you cant stream textures into a given frame.

Another question (if anyone can ever answer my first one). Is a game's art style more important that a level of detail?ndrliang2

[QUOTE="ndrliang2"]Another question (if anyone can ever answer my first one). Is a game's art style more important that a level of detail?Luigi_Vincetana

[QUOTE="Luigi_Vincetana"][QUOTE="ndrliang2"]Another question (if anyone can ever answer my first one). Is a game's art style more important that a level of detail?coolviper2003

[QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="Luigi_Vincetana"][QUOTE="ndrliang2"]Another question (if anyone can ever answer my first one). Is a game's art style more important that a level of detail?Luigi_Vincetana

Funny I think WoW looks beautiful. The fact that they made one of the best looking games on the market with technology everyone could afford is quite the accomplishment.

I mean yeah, polygon and texture wise the game is complete garbage, but honestly -- to call it a "mess" doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE="Luigi_Vincetana"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="Luigi_Vincetana"][QUOTE="ndrliang2"]Another question (if anyone can ever answer my first one). Is a game's art style more important that a level of detail?Koalakommander

Funny I think WoW looks beautiful. The fact that they made one of the best looking games on the market with technology everyone could afford is quite the accomplishment.

I mean yeah, polygon and texture wise the game is complete garbage, but honestly -- to call it a "mess" doesn't make sense.