can Castlevania rip off God Of War any worse?

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#1 sillaris
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a sword that has a chain that whips enemies... and you fight Titans... and the swinging chain animations are basically the same as GOW.

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#2 Yangire
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It could, but it already has stole so much it wouldn't be anything big.

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#3 Fudgycakes
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Well it's okay because God of War was completely new and original when it came out.
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#4 finalstar2007
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Yea its a GoW rip off alright, im getting this game only because it remind me of GoW. usually dont miss games that play like GoW

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#5 Kandlegoat
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Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

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#7 Yangire
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Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

Kandlegoat

I assume he means it acts and looks like it plays like whatever the GOW weapon is called. GOW did not create that style of weapon, but the game can still copy how the weapon plays.

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#8 yanbuco2712
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Well it's okay because God of War was completely new and original when it came out.Fudgycakes
Agreed.
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#9 ironcreed
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...And so it begins, lol. Let them scream "GOW clone" to the top of their lungs, it will not affect my enjoyment one bit.

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#10 Tweetie-Pot
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I'm not even a follower of Castlevania but I do remember them using whips in the older games.
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#11 erglesmergle
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I think they copied GOWs gameplay style or at least built upon it. Everything else existed before GOW was even conceived, maybe not the titans though.

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#12 Tweetie-Pot
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Also the titans reminded more of Shadow of the Colossus than GOW.
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#13 Skittles_McGee
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What you described is basically this game Which was out before the original GoW. Fancy that :|
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#14 xYamatox
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I'm not even a follower of Castlevania but I do remember them using whips in the older games. Tweetie-Pot

It's not the weapon of choice people are complaining about, it's the overall combat. I havn't seen almost ANY gameplay from LoS (even though I'm getting it day 1. Castlevania nut since the NES days :P ) that doesn't change the fact that it can blatently copy ideas from God of War. However, this is just a testiment to how good God of War is as a Hack n' Slash game.

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#15 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

Yangire

I assume he means it acts and looks like it plays like whatever the GOW weapon is called. GOW did not create that style of weapon, but the game can still copy how the weapon plays.

Oh I know.

It just seems any Whip/Chain/Mace type weapon in games that even predate GOW are accused of being "GOW clones"

But at the same time,No one ever said GOW fanboys were very bright.

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#16 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

pretty much this.
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#17 great1991
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that game looks kinda cool actually.
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#18 thecreechxxx
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GOW has had influence of every action game, but there wouldn't be GOW without action games like Castlevania that came out in the 80's. It's a compliment to GOW, but this game is anything but a GOW rip off. It looks to be a return to form for the Castlevania series. This could be the first great 3d castlevania and possibly the best in the series since Symphony of the Night.
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#19 timmy00
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Rip off or not, it'll still be a great game :D

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#20 xYamatox
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

Kandlegoat

I assume he means it acts and looks like it plays like whatever the GOW weapon is called. GOW did not create that style of weapon, but the game can still copy how the weapon plays.

Oh I know.

It just seems any Whip/Chain/Mace type weapon in games that even predate GOW are accused of being "GOW clones"

But at the same time,No one ever said GOW fanboys were very bright.

About as bright as any other fanboy out there.

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#21 nervmeister
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GOW invented ranged melee weapons, apparently. :roll:
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#22 streetridaz
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All games steal from eachother and thats what makes better games but you do realize that the series was created first on Nintendo in the mid 80's and it was using the same weapon set then as it is now. Man I used to love that game when I was like 6. lol

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#23 gamer0100
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The CROSS whip is based of mechanics Castlevania has been using for years. Hop off your high horse. Giant enemy bosses isnt somehting GOW started either. THe story is no where even close to GOW either. TBH I would say the fact that this game looks so great is that its doesnt really show the protaganist as a Deus Ex Machina(human in this example) figure. Which is my only problem with the gow series after 3 games. I like to be a character that struggles to defeat his enemies.

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#24 great1991
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as a god of war fans this looks interesting
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#25 ArielDark
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Hate when people always complain about game being a rip off. I'm so exited to play another Castlevania game that I couldn't care less about stuff like that

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#26 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]What you described is basically this game Which was out before the original GoW. Fancy that :|

See, that actually has the physics of a real whip. Not a sword with a chain.
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#27 iMojo786_PSN
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that game looks kinda cool actually.great1991
i played the demo and yh i must admit this too, the games lukin great

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#28 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="great1991"]that game looks kinda cool actually.iMojo786_PSN

i played the demo and yh i must admit this too, the games lukin great

Good to hear. I preordered the game last week.
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#29 Some-Mist
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Castlevania's protagonists have used chain whips since the 80's.....

Was the Ps3 your first console?

Kandlegoat

^^^ this and it definitely doesn't have a sword on the end of it.

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#30 kuraimen
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Yes it could, Dante's inferno showed what ripping off is all about. All the others are amateurs at best.
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#31 FragTycoon
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Yes He always had a whip, but no, he never had gameplay like he has now witch is obviously trying to be like GoW.

Is that a bad thing? Only if it's done like Dante's Inferno...... everything that I've seen so far leads me to believe that this will be the sleeper hit of the year.

Put it this way, If you couldn't take the ideas from another game and work on it, we wouldn't have any of the current FPS today. (save the jokes about that being a good thing :P )

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#32 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

I assume he means it acts and looks like it plays like whatever the GOW weapon is called. GOW did not create that style of weapon, but the game can still copy how the weapon plays.

xYamatox

Oh I know.

It just seems any Whip/Chain/Mace type weapon in games that even predate GOW are accused of being "GOW clones"

But at the same time,No one ever said GOW fanboys were very bright.

About as bright as any other fanboy out there.

Not disputing this...

Fanboys in general are a bunch of idiots.

Which in a sense i'm making fun of myself,because when I play LOS,i'll be picking it apart and pointing out how the game doesnt compare to CV4 or Rondo of Blood.

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#33 Some-Mist
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Yes He always had a whip, but no, he never had gameplay like he has now witch is obviously trying to be like GoW.

FragTycoon

you should really check out this post

What you described is basically this game Which was out before the original GoW. Fancy that :|Skittles_McGee

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#34 jdc6305
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Yeah and god of war ripped off ninja gaiden so whats your point? At least in castlevania I get 20 hours of gameplay.

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#35 Some-Mist
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Yeah and god of war ripped off ninja gaiden so whats your point?

jdc6305

and ninja gaiden ripped off devil may cry! what is YOUR point!?

and devil may cry ripped off...
(I actually don't know :P)

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#36 jdc6305
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

Yeah and god of war ripped off ninja gaiden so whats your point?

Some-Mist

and ninja gaiden ripped off devil may cry! what is YOUR point!?

and devil may cry ripped off...
(I actually don't know :P)

I knew someone was gonna say that.

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#37 coasterguy65
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Castlevania on the SNES had a chain whip that you used to strike enemies. You also used the chain whip to swing from stuff there too. Fighting big bosses is hardly something GOW invented.......so really which game was ripping off which?

This reminds me of when people were trying to say Clash of the Titans ripped off GOW...sheesh people GOW was hardly original.

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#38 killerfist
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The game looks great..let it be.

a sword that has a chain that whips enemies...sillaris

He was whipping enemies before you know..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03DVgCTLQs

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#39 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Yes He always had a whip, but no, he never had gameplay like he has now witch is obviously trying to be like GoW.

Some-Mist

you should really check out this post

What you described is basically this game Which was out before the original GoW. Fancy that :|Skittles_McGee

I'm one of the few people who have actually played that game and no, that's nothing like the new game.

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#40 Some-Mist
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

you should really check out this post

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]What you described is basically this game Which was out before the original GoW. Fancy that :|Some-Mist

I'm one of the few people who have actually played that game and no, that's nothing like the new game.

whatever you say :P

have you played lords of shadow outside of the demo? or how are you making the comparison?

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#41 Kandlegoat
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This reminds me of when people were trying to say Clash of the Titans ripped off GOW...sheesh people GOW was hardly original.

coasterguy65

hahah Did GOW fans actually say that?

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#42 madsnakehhh
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a sword that has a chain that whips enemies... and you fight Titans... and the swinging chain animations are basically the same as GOW.

trailer

sillaris

By that logic, Halo copied Doom in the sense that you use a gun to kill enemies.

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#43 Upparoom
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Guys the TC is right. Any action adventure game with melee combo system combat is a GOW ripoff. GOW invented this novel, brilliant, and original concept of fighting enemies with melee combos, and then unlocking more along the way. :roll:

Anyhoo, this type of combat works best for the game. Do you want to go back to the N64 days of locking on and whipping?

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#44 Kandlegoat
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Guys the TC is right. Any action adventure game with melee combo system combat is a GOW ripoff. GOW invented this novel, brilliant, and original concept of fighting enemies with melee combos, and then unlocking more along the way. :roll:

Anyhoo, this type of combat works best for the game. Do you want to go back to the N64 days of locking on and whipping?

Upparoom

It's really doesnt matter to me combat wise, as long as it's challenging and requires strategy.

And not some shallow game that you can button mash your way to the end-credits with ease.

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#45 samanthademeste
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Thats like saying Medal of Honor is a rip-off of Call of Duty.

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#46 hexashadow13
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This is obviously taking cues from GoW. Not saying it's a bad thing, but it definitely IS. The trailer posted is a perfect example of that. The gameplay of LoS is a cross between that and GoW. The animation, the mechanics, etc. are used in GoW. GoW was a great game and imitation is the greatest form of flattery. To deny that flattery is rude.
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#47 vadicta
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

Yeah and god of war ripped off ninja gaiden so whats your point?

Some-Mist

and ninja gaiden ripped off devil may cry! what is YOUR point!?

and devil may cry ripped off...
(I actually don't know :P)



That's right, all hail Devil May Cry, the aribitor of all that we know modern hack-and-slash to be and all else is just posing :P

I really have no opinion about this thread, though. I thiink the combat looks just like GoW (right down to the QTE to fight a werewolf off of you), but that's not really a bad thing, and it's only one part of the game. If it focuses on exploration like the others did, then it'll still be awesome. I won't really be buying it, though.

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#49 pc-ps360
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i dont care if its a carbon copy of god of war , as long as the game turns out great i dont care. also isnt it a good idea to copy an AAA game. why not it better than copying crappy games. either way as long as the game is good i dont think anone will care if it copied another game or not

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#50 _BlueDuck_
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Considering there's been a whip-sword and various mythological beasts in Castlevania games prior to the release of God of War, I'd disagree.

Though if Lord of Shadows does turn out to be rather similar to God of War I will be very dissapointed.