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#1 Arman_Tanzarian
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Both their titles, kzsf and merc look amazing and way ahead of their time. Merc for a handheld and kzsf for a launch title is way ahead of where I thought next gen would be at launch. Remember naughty gods became naughty gods years after they made there first game and they got better and better. Can go do to the same?
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#2 the_bi99man
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#3 R3FURBISHED
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Both their titles, kzsf and merc look amazing and way ahead of their time. Arman_Tanzarian

"way ahead of their time" helluva interesting way to say "I think they look really good"

oh, not level 10

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#5 Arman_Tanzarian
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You guys needs to stop fisting yourselves when no one is looking
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#6 dercoo
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Lock aside, I think they can.

GG has made great improvements from their Kz1 days.

In terms of programing(Ai & graphics), they are posibly Sony's best.

Their biggest weakness is their narratives & "fresh factor"(delivering compltly new gameplay/story/ect ect, that shift the industy).

I'm really interested in what their seceret PS4 title is.

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#7 the_bi99man
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You guys needs to stop fisting yourselves when no one is lookingArman_Tanzarian

You need to learn to spell, if you're gonna try to reference the simpsons with your account name. And also, learn the rules of the board.

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#8 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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No, guerrilla only makes shooters
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#9 percech
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If KZ:SF is way ahead of its time then shit, I have no reason to "upgrade" to next-gen.
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#10 LegatoSkyheart
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You're giving Killzone too much credit.

Guerrilla Games can never be another Naughty Dog.

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#11 GhettoBlastin92
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I hope the new KZ will be better than KZ3.
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#12 campzor
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as far as graphics and multiplayer go, they are equal if not better.
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#13 bodde1972
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I'm really interested in what their seceret PS4 title is.

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Rumours are its an RPG. Really curious about what they can do outside of the shooter genre.

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#14 sukraj
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Killzone is just another generic shooter.

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#15 FLOPPAGE_50
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First of all, they can't be ahead of their time when Crysis 3 this gen has better graphics.

 

Second of all, lol level 5 cy@

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#16 megaspiderweb09
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Noo way, Guerilla Games do not come close to Naughty Dog but i rate them very highly though as i feel their Killzone games show amazing level of technicality in terms of graphics and AI. I remember their leader confirmed on IGN that they are working on a new PS4 IP simultaneously while they work on Shadowfall, hopefully we can get to see that vission sometime soon, perhaps then we can start making a comparison like this

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#17 kalipekona
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If KZ:SF is way ahead of its time then shit, I have no reason to "upgrade" to next-gen.percech

This. Killzone Shadow Fall looks good, but the cows are way over-hyping it, again.

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#18 Sushiglutton
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:lol: no way.
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#19 Whiteknight19
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I do think GG with there killzone games make quite alot of pc games look silly same with last of us or uncharted same with some xbox games it gives pc a run for there money but I personally believe that GG can be as good as crytek if not better in some aspects

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#20 kalipekona
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I do think GG with there killzone games make quite alot of pc games look silly same with last of us or uncharted same with some xbox games it gives pc a run for there money but I personally believe that GG can be as good as crytek if not better in some aspects

Whiteknight19

You're only speaking out of ignorance. Killzone 3 looks nowhere near as good as PC games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 with mods, Crysis 3, Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. Killzone Shadow Fall gets much closer. And 3rd person games like The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell Blacklist on PC all look better than TLOU or Uncharted 3. 

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#21 super600  Moderator
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No. The critcal reception for their games has been all over the place since the first killzone. Killzone SF may keep this trend alive.

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#22 happyduds77
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I doubt it.

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#23 LegatoSkyheart
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No. The critcal reception for their games has been all over the place since the first killzone. Killzone SF may keep this trend alive.

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Only thing Killzone Shadow Fall will beat is Call of Duty Ghosts.

Though Ghosts has that Dog and Fish AI.

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#24 Whiteknight19
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[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

I do think GG with there killzone games make quite alot of pc games look silly same with last of us or uncharted same with some xbox games it gives pc a run for there money but I personally believe that GG can be as good as crytek if not better in some aspects

kalipekona

You're only speaking out of ignorance. Killzone 3 looks nowhere near as good as PC games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 with mods, Crysis 3, Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. Killzone Shadow Fall gets much closer. And 3rd person games like The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell Blacklist on PC all look better than TLOU or Uncharted 3. 

1st off all EA cant even get 1080p to even run on ps4 I bet u GG can and also it can look as good or ur just a butthurt hermit cant denie that a weak console can near compete with a pc

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#25 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

I do think GG with there killzone games make quite alot of pc games look silly same with last of us or uncharted same with some xbox games it gives pc a run for there money but I personally believe that GG can be as good as crytek if not better in some aspects

Whiteknight19

You're only speaking out of ignorance. Killzone 3 looks nowhere near as good as PC games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 with mods, Crysis 3, Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. Killzone Shadow Fall gets much closer. And 3rd person games like The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell Blacklist on PC all look better than TLOU or Uncharted 3. 

1st off all EA cant even get 1080p to even run on ps4 I bet u GG can and also it can look as good or ur just a butthurt hermit cant denie that a weak console can near compete with a pc

Because resolution is everything to a game's graphics :roll:

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#26 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

I do think GG with there killzone games make quite alot of pc games look silly same with last of us or uncharted same with some xbox games it gives pc a run for there money but I personally believe that GG can be as good as crytek if not better in some aspects

Whiteknight19

You're only speaking out of ignorance. Killzone 3 looks nowhere near as good as PC games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 with mods, Crysis 3, Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. Killzone Shadow Fall gets much closer. And 3rd person games like The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell Blacklist on PC all look better than TLOU or Uncharted 3. 

1st off all EA cant even get 1080p to even run on ps4 I bet u GG can and also it can look as good or ur just a butthurt hermit cant denie that a weak console can near compete with a pc

It's simply the truth. Your comment was the one that was way off base.

 

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#27 gpuking
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Not sure about other things but graphics wise it literally beats out every single nextgen launch titles including Crysis 3. It's gonna take ND, Santa Monica Studios and Quantic Dreams to surpass KZSF's visual.
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#28 freedomfreak
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They know how to make pretty games. There's that.
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#29 Sweenix
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You guys needs to stop fisting yourselves when no one is lookingArman_Tanzarian

:lol:

Don't worry, i'll make a thread to carry this on

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#30 silversix_
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no because all they're doing is generic shooters with no story, interesting characters or dialogues.

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#31 balfe1990
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They haven't got an ounce of creativity. Killzone games are all sparkle and no substance.

Shadow Fall looks like it'll be an alright game, but 2 and 3 were shiiit. Good looking games, but derivative and dull.

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Not sure about other things but graphics wise it literally beats out every single nextgen launch titles including Crysis 3gpuking
Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Not sure about other things but graphics wise it literally beats out every single nextgen launch titles including Crysis 3Consternated
Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"

So what other games are you suggesting looks better? Do remember I was solely talking about graphics. Gameplay, story, etc would be better judged after you beaten it.
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#34 Consternated
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[QUOTE="Consternated"][QUOTE="gpuking"]Not sure about other things but graphics wise it literally beats out every single nextgen launch titles including Crysis 3gpuking
Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"

So what other games are you suggesting looks better? Do remember I was solely talking about graphics. Gameplay, story, etc would be better judged after you beaten it.

I can't be bothered reciting the usual PC games from the past 5 years, but hey :) Crysis 3 does look better, though. I could agree about the story, but after playing the first three, I have next to no hopes for this one. As for the gameplay, it looks too slow for my tastes. There's also been rumours of input lag, just like earlier games in the franchise. I can't be bothered with that.

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#35 Malta_1980
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Not really.. We need to see GG work on a new (non KZ) game/series.. However GG has been improving since KZ1, they're definately a very talented team !!

ND has been around for longer and we've seen their quality in games... Looking forward to see what they're working in for PS4

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#36 DOADS87
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As much as I like GG they do only make shooters, ND on the otherhand make a variety of games that are engaging, immersive and fun... can't wait to see what they are up to.

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#37 aroxx_ab
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No, they only make Killzone games? ND makes new interesting games with vareity...

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[QUOTE="Consternated"][QUOTE="gpuking"]Not sure about other things but graphics wise it literally beats out every single nextgen launch titles including Crysis 3gpuking
Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"

So what other games are you suggesting looks better? Do remember I was solely talking about graphics. Gameplay, story, etc would be better judged after you beaten it.

Crysis 3 on PC looks better. As does Battlefield 4 on PC and maybe on consoles, although I haven't seen enough of the PS4 version to say for sure.

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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Consternated"] Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"kalipekona

So what other games are you suggesting looks better? Do remember I was solely talking about graphics. Gameplay, story, etc would be better judged after you beaten it.

Crysis 3 on PC looks better. As does Battlefield 4 on PC and maybe on consoles, although I haven't seen enough to say for sure.

We haven't seen enough of KZ sp or updated build but mp wise it's definitely better for sure. There's no competition.
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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Consternated"] Nope, try again. (Although I'm not defending Crysis 3... Another mediocre game from Crytek). GG will never be anyone until they try something new. They've made a handful of generic shooters, with the most forgettable single player campaigns imaginable, and a pretty soulless multiplayer. In a year or two, all but a handful of diehard fans will be looking back, and saying; "Hey dude, do you remember that launch game... Uhm, Shadowfall!" "Uh, yeah. It was alright, I guess. Wanna play it?" "Nah. Lets play something interesting"kalipekona

So what other games are you suggesting looks better? Do remember I was solely talking about graphics. Gameplay, story, etc would be better judged after you beaten it.

Crysis 3 on PC looks better. As does Battlefield 4 on PC and maybe on consoles, although I haven't seen enough of the PS4 version to say for sure.

Forget it pal, you are talking to gpuking. He considers KZ a sandbox FPS and you could see the knowledge he has about graphics in my sig. He would consider Minecraft the graphics king if it were a Sony exclusive.

On topic, doesn't matter to me both are mediocre devs that make movies and technically DICE, CD Projeckt RED and definitely Crytek is way ahead of them. As a matter of fact they are using the subset of the techniques Crytek used/pioneered/invented.

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#41 II_Seraphim_II
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I already called it, Ready At Dawn are the next Naughty Dog
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#42 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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It takes more than shiny visuals to be a good dev

Something console people seem to be forgettting when looking at all these next gen games

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#43 pelvist
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ND games are over hyped just like most console exclusives and Guerilla Games are yet to make a game I would class as good. So yeah they probably could become the next ND since unless all you own is a PS3, ND where nothing special to begin with.

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#44 Chutebox
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No.  ND games look amazing and are extremely fun to play.

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#45 Chutebox
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ND games are over hyped just like most console exclusives and Guerilla Games are yet to make a game I would class as good. So yeah they probably could become the next ND since unless all you own is a PS3, ND where nothing special to begin with.

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#46 CroidX
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the only thing even worth noteworthy with ND games are there many cutscenes and maybe story

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ND games are over hyped just like most console exclusives and Guerilla Games are yet to make a game I would class as good. So yeah they probably could become the next ND since unless all you own is a PS3, ND where nothing special to begin with.

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Absolutely wrong

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#48 ImBatman-
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It's possible, but so far they've only made Killzone games. KZ:SF does look like the best Kilzone game by far so they are improving. I'll need to see what the new IP they're working on is.

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#49 lhughey
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No. They've not made a great game yet. KZ is only a good franchise, but is nothing special. Maybe they will change the trajectory of the franchise, but I wouldn't put my money on it.
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#50 2Chalupas
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Depends on their new IP and what type of game it is. Naughty Dog has a much longer track-record going all the way back to PS1, and they have developed multiple cornerstone franchises for PlayStation. If Guerilla's new IP is something special, then of course they could be up there as Sony's ace studio. But they need to really hit a homerun with their next game. Santa Monica and Naughty Dog might have some stuff up their sleeve too though.